HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS

 

February 27, 2003   Hearing Room E

1:00 PM  Tapes 17 - 19

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair

Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair

Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair

Rep. Vic Backlund

Rep. Phil Barnhart

Rep. Betsy L. Close

Rep. Joanne Verger

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Cara Filsinger, Administrator

Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:  HB 2550 – Public Hearing

                                                Introduction of Committee Bills – Work Session

                                                HB 2814 –Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 17, A

004

Chair Doyle

Calls meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. and opens the meeting as a subcommittee.  Present are Reps. Barnhart, Backlund, and Chair Doyle.

 

Chair Doyle

Opens a public hearing on HB 2550 and explains protocol for the meeting.

HB 2550 – PUBLIC HEARING

027

Dr. Steven Zielinski

Hermiston.  Testifies in support of HB 2550 (EXHIBIT A).  Comments on medical school studies and research on pain.

070

Zielinski

Continues presentation.

123

Zielinski

Comments on abortion procedures.

 

Zielinski

Submits graphic of abortion (EXHIBIT B) and comments on procedures.

264

Rep. Barnhart

Asks when Zielinski graduated from medical school.

 

Zielinski

Responds he graduated in 1982.

 

Rep. Barnhart

Asks when the fetal pain research was concluded and where the research was published.

 

Zielinski

Explains that the research by the Legal Defense Fund (EXHIBIT A, pages 2-10) was presented to President Regan without being published.

 

Rep. Barnhart

Asks if the research has been published in scientific journals for peer review.

 

Zielinski

Explains that the research appeared in the Congressional Record.  Comments on further research at Harvard and publication.

 

Rep. Barnhart

Asks if other research that might support this article has been published for peer review.

 

Zielinski

Explains that this is the only article that was not published for peer review.  Comments on other research that was published and peer reviewed.

354

Chair Doyle

Turns gavel over to Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson and asks that she preside during the testimony of the opponents.

 

Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson

Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Oregon Health and Sciences University.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHBIT D).

400

Jacobson

Continues presentation (EXHIBIT D).

TAPE 18, A

020

Jacobson

Continues presentation.

038

Peg Grzelkowski,

Ordained minister, United Church of Christ.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT C).

070

Grzelkowski

Continues presentation.

093

Mike Crew

Attorney, Cooney & Crew, representing the Oregon Medical Association.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550.  Cites reasons for opposition to specific sections of the bill.

180

Dr. Grant Higginson

Department of Human Services, Health Services.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT E). 

 

Maura Roche

Pro-Choice Coalition of Oregon.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHBIIT F). 

271

Roche

Continues presentation, commenting on additional research and junk science.

294

Betty McChesney-Haus

American Association of University Women of Oregon.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT G).

334

Vice Chair Monnes Anderson

Returns gavel to Chair Doyle.

345

Melanie E. Mansell

Attorney at Law.  Submits packet of information and comments on documents contained therein (EXHIBIT H).  Testifies in support of HB 2550.

TAPE 17, B

020

Mansell

Continues presentation.

029

Rep. Verger

Asks why the 24 hour requirement is in the bill.

 

Mansell

Comments on views of the court regarding providing time for the person to think.

048

Rep. Verger

Comments that information could be provided on the first visit and it could be 48 hours before the procedure is performed.

 

Mansell

Responds that the information could be mailed.

 

Mansell

Adds that she does not like Section 8 that says the father of the unborn or the grandparents can bring action against the physician; the decision should be between the woman and the doctor.

062

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2550 and opens a work session for the purpose of introducing committee bills, noting a quorum is present.

INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILS – WORK SESSION

062

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves LCs:  2830, 1043, 1650, 1651, 2147, AND 2818 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills.

063

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Knopp

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

073

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on introduction of committee bills and opens a public hearing on HB 2814.

HB 2814 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Richard M Thorne

M.D. FACOG.  Testifies in support of HB 2814 (EXHIBIT I).

130

Thorne

Comments on abortion procedures and survival rates of fetuses at certain points in term of pregnancy.

210

Thorne

Reviews six pain perceptions listed in his testimony (EXHIBIT I, page 15).

343

Thorne

Reviews summary of his statement (EXHIBIT I, page 9)

411

Rep. Verger

Asks if her children felt pain when they were born.

 

Thorne

Responds he does not know.

Tape 18, B

 

Chair Doyle

Passes gavel to Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson and asks that she preside during testimony in opposition to HB 2814.

010

Rev. Paul B. Robinson

Pastor, Medford Congregational Church of Christ Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT J).

075

Sig-Linda Jacobson

Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Oregon Health and Sciences University (OHSU).  Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT K).

153

Judy Davis

Reads testimony of Viki Wilson, California resident, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT L).

234

Kappy Eaton

League of Women Voters.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT M).

270

Kitty Piercy

Reads statement of Tiffiny Benjamin, California resident, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT N).

304

Maura Roche

Pro-Choice Coalition of Oregon.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT O).

 

Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson

Returns gavel to Chair Doyle.

349

Gayle Atterbery

Oregon Right to Life.  Testifies in support of HB 2814.

420

Atterbery

Comments on legislation in other states and actions by the American Medical Association.

TAPE 19, A

028

Attebery

Advises that she is working with legislators on amendments to HB 2814 to take care of difficulties in the drafting process. 

 

Chair Doyle

Acknowledges receipt of a statement from Marcia Kelly, Womens Rights Coalition, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT P).

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2814 and reopens the public hearing on HB 2550.

HB 2550 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Acknowledges receipt of a statement from Kappy Eaton, League of Women Voters, in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT Q).

025

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2550 and comments on the committee hearing schedules.

055

Chair Doyle

Adjourns meeting at 2:58 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Steven Zielinski, 14 pp

B – HB 2550, abortion graphic, Dr. Steven Zielinski, 2 pp

C – HB 2550, prepared statement, Peg Grzelkowski, 2 pp

D – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson, 2 pp

E – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Grant Higginson, 2 pp

F – HB 2550, prepared statement, Maura Roche, 2 pp

G – HB 2550, prepared statement, Betty McChesney-Haus, 1 p

H - HB 2550, prepared statement, Melanie Mansell, 16 pp

I –HB 2814, prepared statement, Dr. Richard Thorne, 19 pp

J – HB 2814, prepared statement, Rev. Paul Robinson, 2 pp

K – HB 2814, prepared statement, Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson, 2 pp

L – HB 2814, prepared statement, Judy Davis, 2 pp

M – HB 2814, prepared statement, Kappy Eaton, 1 p

N – HB 2814, prepared statement, Kitty Piercy, 1 p

O – HB 2814, prepared statement, Maura Roche, 1 p

P – HB 2814, prepared statement, Marcia Kelley, 1 p

Q – HB 2550, prepared statement, Kappy Eaton, 1 p