HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS

February 27, 2003 Hearing Room E

1:00 PM Tapes 17 - 19

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair

Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair

Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair

Rep. Vic Backlund

Rep. Phil Barnhart

Rep. Betsy L. Close

Rep. Joanne Verger

STAFF PRESENT: Cara Filsinger, Administrator

Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2550 – Public Hearing

Introduction of Committee Bills – Work Session

HB 2814 –Public Hearing

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
Tape 17, A
004	Chair Doyle	Calls meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. and opens the meeting as a subcommittee. Present are Reps. Barnhart, Backlund, and Chair Doyle.
	Chair Doyle	Opens a public hearing on HB 2550 and explains protocol for the meeting.
HB 2550 – PUBLIC HEARING
027	Dr. Steven Zielinski	Hermiston. Testifies in support of HB 2550 (EXHIBIT A). Comments on medical school studies and research on pain.
070	Zielinski	Continues presentation.
123	Zielinski	Comments on abortion procedures.
	Zielinski	Submits graphic of abortion (EXHIBIT B) and comments on procedures.
264	Rep. Barnhart	Asks when Zielinski graduated from medical school.
	Zielinski	Responds he graduated in 1982.
	Rep. Barnhart	Asks when the fetal pain research was concluded and where the research was published.
	Zielinski	Explains that the research by the Legal Defense Fund (EXHIBIT A, pages 2-10) was presented to President Regan without being published.
	Rep. Barnhart	Asks if the research has been published in scientific journals for peer review.
	Zielinski	Explains that the research appeared in the Congressional Record. Comments on further research at Harvard and publication.
	Rep. Barnhart	Asks if other research that might support this article has been published for peer review.
	Zielinski	Explains that this is the only article that was not published for peer review. Comments on other research that was published and peer reviewed.
354	Chair Doyle	Turns gavel over to Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson and asks that she preside during the testimony of the opponents.
	Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson	Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Oregon Health and Sciences University. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHBIT D).
400	Jacobson	Continues presentation (EXHIBIT D).
TAPE 18, A
020	Jacobson	Continues presentation.
038	Peg Grzelkowski,	Ordained minister, United Church of Christ. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT C).
070	Grzelkowski	Continues presentation.
093	Mike Crew	Attorney, Cooney & Crew, representing the Oregon Medical Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550. Cites reasons for opposition to specific sections of the bill.
180	Dr. Grant Higginson	Department of Human Services, Health Services. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT E).
	Maura Roche	Pro-Choice Coalition of Oregon. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHBIIT F).
271	Roche	Continues presentation, commenting on additional research and junk science.
294	Betty McChesney-Haus	American Association of University Women of Oregon. Testifies in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT G).
334	Vice Chair Monnes Anderson	Returns gavel to Chair Doyle.
345	Melanie E. Mansell	Attorney at Law. Submits packet of information and comments on documents contained therein (EXHIBIT H). Testifies in support of HB 2550.
TAPE 17, B
020	Mansell	Continues presentation.
029	Rep. Verger	Asks why the 24 hour requirement is in the bill.
	Mansell	Comments on views of the court regarding providing time for the person to think.
048	Rep. Verger	Comments that information could be provided on the first visit and it could be 48 hours before the procedure is performed.
	Mansell	Responds that the information could be mailed.
	Mansell	Adds that she does not like Section 8 that says the father of the unborn or the grandparents can bring action against the physician; the decision should be between the woman and the doctor.
062	Chair Doyle	Closes the public hearing on HB 2550 and opens a work session for the purpose of introducing committee bills, noting a quorum is present.
INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILS – WORK SESSION
062	Rep. Flores	MOTION: Moves LCs: 2830, 1043, 1650, 1651, 2147, AND 2818 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills.
063		VOTE: 7-0-0
	Chair Knopp	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
073	Chair Doyle	Closes the work session on introduction of committee bills and opens a public hearing on HB 2814.
HB 2814 – PUBLIC HEARING
	Richard M Thorne	M.D. FACOG. Testifies in support of HB 2814 (EXHIBIT I).
130	Thorne	Comments on abortion procedures and survival rates of fetuses at certain points in term of pregnancy.
210	Thorne	Reviews six pain perceptions listed in his testimony (EXHIBIT I, page 15).
343	Thorne	Reviews summary of his statement (EXHIBIT I, page 9)
411	Rep. Verger	Asks if her children felt pain when they were born.
	Thorne	Responds he does not know.
Tape 18, B
	Chair Doyle	Passes gavel to Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson and asks that she preside during testimony in opposition to HB 2814.
010	Rev. Paul B. Robinson	Pastor, Medford Congregational Church of Christ Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT J).
075	Sig-Linda Jacobson	Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Oregon Health and Sciences University (OHSU). Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT K).
153	Judy Davis	Reads testimony of Viki Wilson, California resident, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT L).
234	Kappy Eaton	League of Women Voters. Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT M).
270	Kitty Piercy	Reads statement of Tiffiny Benjamin, California resident, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT N).
304	Maura Roche	Pro-Choice Coalition of Oregon. Testifies in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT O).
	Vice-Chair Monnes Anderson	Returns gavel to Chair Doyle.
349	Gayle Atterbery	Oregon Right to Life. Testifies in support of HB 2814.
420	Atterbery	Comments on legislation in other states and actions by the American Medical Association.
TAPE 19, A
028	Attebery	Advises that she is working with legislators on amendments to HB 2814 to take care of difficulties in the drafting process.
	Chair Doyle	Acknowledges receipt of a statement from Marcia Kelly, Womens Rights Coalition, in opposition to HB 2814 (EXHIBIT P).
	Chair Doyle	Closes the public hearing on HB 2814 and reopens the public hearing on HB 2550.
HB 2550 – PUBLIC HEARING
	Chair Doyle	Acknowledges receipt of a statement from Kappy Eaton, League of Women Voters, in opposition to HB 2550 (EXHIBIT Q).
025	Chair Doyle	Closes the public hearing on HB 2550 and comments on the committee hearing schedules.
055	Chair Doyle	Adjourns meeting at 2:58 p.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Steven Zielinski, 14 pp

B – HB 2550, abortion graphic, Dr. Steven Zielinski, 2 pp

C – HB 2550, prepared statement, Peg Grzelkowski, 2 pp

D – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson, 2 pp

E – HB 2550, prepared statement, Dr. Grant Higginson, 2 pp

F – HB 2550, prepared statement, Maura Roche, 2 pp

G – HB 2550, prepared statement, Betty McChesney-Haus, 1 p

H - HB 2550, prepared statement, Melanie Mansell, 16 pp

I –HB 2814, prepared statement, Dr. Richard Thorne, 19 pp

J – HB 2814, prepared statement, Rev. Paul Robinson, 2 pp

K – HB 2814, prepared statement, Dr. Sig-Linda Jacobson, 2 pp

L – HB 2814, prepared statement, Judy Davis, 2 pp

M – HB 2814, prepared statement, Kappy Eaton, 1 p

N – HB 2814, prepared statement, Kitty Piercy, 1 p

O – HB 2814, prepared statement, Maura Roche, 1 p

P – HB 2814, prepared statement, Marcia Kelley, 1 p

Q – HB 2550, prepared statement, Kappy Eaton, 1 p