HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS

 

April 10, 2003 Hearing Room E

1:00 PM  Tapes 39 - 40

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair

Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair

Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair

Rep. Vic Backlund

Rep. Phil Barnhart

Rep. Betsy L. Close

Rep. Joanne Verger

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Cara Filsinger, Administrator

Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:  Introduction of Speaker-approved committee bills – Work Session

                                                HCR 3 – Work Session

HB 3442 – Work Session

HJM 1 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2143 – Public Hearing

HB 2377 – Public Hearing

HB 2399 – Public Hearing

HB 2444 – Public Hearing

HB 2446 – Public Hearing

HB 2472 – Public Hearing

HB 2499 – Public Hearing

HB 2615 – Public Hearing

HB 2648 – Public Hearing

HB 2657 – Public Hearing

HB 2740 – Public Hearing

HB 2752 – Public Hearing

HB 2825 – Public Hearing

HB 2835 – Public Hearing

HB 2839 – Public Hearing

HB 2930 – Public Hearing

HB 2931 – Public Hearing

HB 2932 – Public Hearing

HB 2935 – Public Hearing

HB 2942 – Public Hearing

HB 2956 – Public Hearing

HB 3000 – Public Hearing

HB 3059 – Public Hearing

HB 3112 – Public Hearing

HB 3238 – Public Hearing

HB 3304 – Public Hearing

HB 3446 – Public Hearing

HB 3447 – Public Hearing

HB 3499 – Public Hearing

HB 3540 – Public Hearing

HB 3560 – Public Hearing

HB 3565 – Public Hearing

HB 3586 – Public Hearing

HB 3602 – Public Hearing

HB 3606 – Public Hearing

HB 3611 – Pubic Hearing

HJR 1 – Public Hearing

HJR 15 – Public Hearing

HJR 22 – Public Hearing

HJR 31 – Public Hearing

HJR 39 – Public Hearing

HJR 54 – Public Hearing

HB 2442 – Public Hearing

HB 3498 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 39, A

004

Chair Doyle

Calls meeting to order at 1:07 p.m. and announces agenda item sequence for the day.

011

Chair Doyle

Opens a work session on introduction of Speaker-approved committee bills.

INTRODUCTION OF SPEAKER-APPROVED COMMITTEE BILLS

016

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves LCs 3541 AND 3557 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bills.

021

 

VOTE:  5-0-2

EXCUSED:  2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

 

 

NOTE:  DRAFTING AND INTRODUCTION REQUESTS GRANTED BY SPEAKER ON MARCH 31 (SEE EXHIBIT A OF APRIL 1, 2003 COMMITTEE MINUTES) AND MARCH 25 (EXHIBIT E OF MARCH 27, 2003 COMMITTEE MINUTES).

023

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on introduction of Speaker-approved committee bills and opens work session on HCR 3.

HCR 3 – WORK SESSION

024

Chair Doyle

Reviews history of the measure.

 

Cara Filsinger

Administrator.  Explains the HCR 3-1 amendments submitted by Rep. Gilman (EXHIBIT A).

038

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HCR 3-1 amendments dated 4/1/03.

040

 

VOTE:  5-0-2

EXCUSED:  2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

041

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves HCR 3 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

044

 

VOTE:  5-0-2 (SEE TAPE 40, A AT 040)

EXCUSED:  2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor.

 

052

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on HCR 3 and opens a public hearing on HB 3442.

HB 3442 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Gary Conklin

Oregon Wine Growers Association.  Explains the HB 3442-2 amendments (EXHIBIT B).

 

Chair Doyle

Asks Conklin to explain the subsequent referral to Ways and Means.

095

Conklin

Explains why the HB 3442 has a subsequent referral to Ways and Means.

113

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 3442.

HB 3442 WORK SESSION

125

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3442-2 amendments dated 4/10/03.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Rep. Close

 

Chair Doyle

The motion CARRIES.

 

131

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves HB 3442 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

Rep. Barnhart

Speaks in support of HB 3442 as amended.

 

Rep. Backlund

Speaks in support of HB 3442 as amended.

160

 

VOTE:  6-0-1 (SEE TAPE 40, A AT 040)

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Rep. Close

 

Chair Doyle

The motion CARRIES.

 

157

Chair  Doyle

Closes the work session on HB 3442 and opens a public hearing on HJM 1.

HJM 1 – PUBLIC HEARING

162

Paul DiAngelo

Speaking for himself.  Submits prepared statement, letters of endorsement, and calculations in using the proposed program (EXHIBIT C).  Testifies in support of HJM 1.

230

DiAngelo

Continues presentation.

280

DiAngelo

Continues presentation

334

DiAngelo

Reads headline of article from The Oregonian on economic stimulus on April 8, 2003.

370

DiAngelo

Continues presentation.

435

Rep. Monnes Anderson

Asks how long it would take a person to be eligible under the program.

 

DiAngelo

Responds that it will vary.  Comments on earnings and contributions to the Social Security system.

TAPE 40, A

032

Chair Doyle

Recesses the public hearing on HJM 1 and reopens the work session on HCR 3 for the purpose of allowing Rep. Barnhart and Rep. Close to vote on passage of HCR 3.

HCR 3 – WORK SESSION

040

Rep. Doyle

MOTION:  Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BARNHART AND REP CLOSE to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion that HCR 3 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

Rep. Barnhart

Votes AYE.

 

REP. Close

Votes AYE.

040

 

VOTE:  7-0-1

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor.

 

042

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on HCR 3 and reopens the work session on HB 3442 for the purpose of allowing Rep. Close to vote on passage of the measure.

HB 3441 – WORK SESSION

039

Rep. Doyle

MOTION:  Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. CLOSE to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion that HB 3442 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

Rep. Close

Votes AYE.

040

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

046

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on HB 3441 and reopens the public hearing on HJM 1.

HJM 1 – PUBLIC HEARING

048

Chair Doyle

Comments that DiAngelo has given good information and the point of the memorial is to ask Congress to authorize a trial program that allows first-time home buyers to borrow against Social Security contributions at a low rate of interest.

050

Rep. Verger

Commends DiAngelo for his proposal.

 

DiAngelo

Responds that he has never owned a home and this is only for families.  Comments on letters of endorsement included in the packet (EXHIBIT C).

090

Rep. Barnhart

Comments on the Social Security Trust Fund.  Believes this is an intriguing proposal.  Comments that this is only asking Congress to look at the proposal.

 

Rep. Flores

Thanks DiAngelo for his creative thinking and the proposal.

114

Rep. Backlund

Comments on the depth of the study and proposal presented by DiAngelo.  States there are benefits other than taxes and homeownership.

 

Rep. Verger

Comments that she like the idea of the pilot program to see how it would work.

135

DiAngelo

Reads article from The Statesman Journal (EXHIBIT C, page 12).

149

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HJM 1.

HJM 1 – WORK SESSION

161

Rep. Flores

MOTION:  Moves HJM 1 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation.

 

Rep. Monnes Anderson

Comments on concerns about draining the Social Security fund if people default but will vote for the memorial and let the federal government figure it out.

147

Chair Doyle

Comments he has the same concerns and would like to see if Congress will take a look at the proposal.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Rep. Close

 

Chair Doyle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. ZAUNER will lead discussion on the floor.

 

188

Chair Doyle

Closes the work session on HJM 1 and opens and closes public hearings on a series of measures on the agenda.

201

Chair Doyle

Opens the public hearing on HB 2143.

HB 2143 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2143 and opens a public hearing on HB 2377.

HB 2377 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

 

Closes the public hearing on HB 2377 and opens a public hearing on HB 2399.

HB 2399 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2399 and opens a public hearing on HB 2444.

HB 2444 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2444 and opens a public hearing on HB 2446.

HB 2446 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2446 and opens a public hearing on HB 2472.

 

 

HB 2472 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2472 and opens a public hearing on HB 2499.

HB 2499 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2499 and opens a public hearing on HB 2615.

HB 2615 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2615 and opens a public hearing on HB 2648.

HB 2648 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2648 and opens a public hearing on HB 2657.

HB 2657 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2657 and opens a public hearing on HB 2740.

HB 2740 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2740 and opens a public hearing on HB 2752.

HB 2752 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2752 and opens a public hearing on HB 2825.

HB 2825 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2825 and opens a public hearing on HB 2835.

HB 2835 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2835 and opens a public hearing on HB 2839.

HB 2839 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2839 and opens a public hearing on HB 2930.

HB 2930 –PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2930 and opens a public hearing on HB 2931.

HB 2931 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2931 and opens a public hearing on HB 2932.

HB 2932 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2931 and opens a public hearing on HB 2935.

HB 2935 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2935 and opens a public; hearing on HB 2942.

HB 2942 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2942 and turn the gavel to Vice-Chair Flores.

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Opens a public hearing on HB 2956.

HB 2956 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 2956 and opens a public hearing on HB 3000.

HB 3000 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3000 and opens a public hearing on HB 3059.

HB 3059 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3059 and opens a public hearing on HB 3112.

HB 3112 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3112 and opens a public hearing on HB 3238.

HB 3238 – PUBLIC HEARING.

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3238 and opens a public hearing on HB 3304.

HB 3304 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3304 and opens a public hearing on HB 3446.

HB 3446 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3446 and opens a public hearing on HB 3447.

HB 3447 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3447 and opens a public hearing on HB 3499.

HB 3499 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3499 and opens a public hearing on HB 3540.

HB 3540 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3540 and opens a public hearing on HB 3560.

HB 3560 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3560 and opens a public hearing on HB 3565.

HB 3565 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3565 and opens a public hearing on HB 3586.

 

 

HB 3586 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3586 and opens a public hearing on HB 3602.

HB 3602 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3602 and opens a public hearing on HB 3606.

HB 3606 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3606 and opens a public hearing on HB 3611.

HB 3611 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HB 3611 and opens a public hearing on HJR 1.

HJR 1 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 1 and opens a public hearing on HJR 15.

HJR 15 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 15 and opens a public hearing on HJR 22.

HJR 22 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 22 and opens a public hearing on HJR 31.

HJR 31 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 31 and opens a public hearing on HJR 39.

HJR 39 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 39 and opens a public hearing on HJR 54.

HJR 54 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Vice-Chair Flores

Closes the public hearing on HJR 54 and turns the gavel back to Chair Doyle.

269

Chair Doyle

Asks committee to stand at ease from 1:52 until 2:00 p.m.

 

Chair Doyle

Reconvenes the meeting and opens a public hearing on HB 2442.

HB 2442 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 2442 and opens a public hearing on HB 3498.

HB 3498 – PUBLIC HEARING

280

Chair Doyle

Closes the public hearing on HB 3498 and adjourns the meeting at 2:01 p.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HCR 3, HCR3-1 amendments, Rep. Gilman, 1 p

B – HB 3442, HB 3442-2 amendments, Gary Conklin, 16 pp

C – HJM 1, prepared statement, letters and calculations, Paul DiAngelo, 28 pp