HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
April 10, 2003 Hearing Room E
1:00 PM Tapes 39 - 40
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Administrator
Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Introduction of Speaker-approved committee
bills Work Session
HCR 3 Work Session
HB 3442 Work Session
HJM 1 Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2143 Public Hearing
HB 2377 Public Hearing
HB 2399 Public Hearing
HB 2444 Public Hearing
HB 2446 Public Hearing
HB 2472 Public Hearing
HB 2499 Public Hearing
HB 2615 Public Hearing
HB 2648 Public Hearing
HB 2657 Public Hearing
HB 2740 Public Hearing
HB 2752 Public Hearing
HB 2825 Public Hearing
HB 2835 Public Hearing
HB 2839 Public Hearing
HB 2930 Public Hearing
HB 2931 Public Hearing
HB 2932 Public Hearing
HB 2935 Public Hearing
HB 2942 Public Hearing
HB 2956 Public Hearing
HB 3000 Public Hearing
HB 3059 Public Hearing
HB 3112 Public Hearing
HB 3238 Public Hearing
HB 3304 Public Hearing
HB 3446 Public Hearing
HB 3447 Public Hearing
HB 3499 Public Hearing
HB 3540 Public Hearing
HB 3560 Public Hearing
HB 3565 Public Hearing
HB 3586 Public Hearing
HB 3602 Public Hearing
HB 3606 Public Hearing
HB 3611 Pubic Hearing
HJR 1 Public Hearing
HJR 15 Public Hearing
HJR 22 Public Hearing
HJR 31 Public Hearing
HJR 39 Public Hearing
HJR 54 Public Hearing
HB 2442 Public Hearing
HB 3498 Public Hearing
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 39, A |
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004 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls meeting to order at 1:07 p.m. and announces
agenda item sequence for the day. |
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011 |
Chair Doyle |
Opens a work session on introduction of
Speaker-approved committee bills. |
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INTRODUCTION
OF SPEAKER-APPROVED COMMITTEE BILLS |
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016 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves LCs 3541 AND 3557 BE INTRODUCED as a
committee bills. |
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021 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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NOTE: DRAFTING
AND INTRODUCTION REQUESTS GRANTED BY SPEAKER ON MARCH 31 (SEE EXHIBIT A OF
APRIL 1, 2003 COMMITTEE MINUTES) AND MARCH 25 (EXHIBIT E OF MARCH 27, 2003
COMMITTEE MINUTES). |
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023 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on introduction of Speaker-approved
committee bills and opens work session on HCR 3. |
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HCR 3
WORK SESSION |
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024 |
Chair Doyle |
Reviews history of the measure. |
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Cara Filsinger |
Administrator.
Explains the HCR 3-1 amendments submitted by Rep. Gilman (EXHIBIT A). |
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038 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HCR 3-1 amendments dated
4/1/03. |
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040 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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041 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HCR 3 be sent to the floor with a BE
ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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044 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 (SEE TAPE 40, A AT 040) EXCUSED: 2 - Reps. Barnhart, Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. GILMAN will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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052 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HCR 3 and opens a public
hearing on HB 3442. |
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HB 3442
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Gary Conklin |
Oregon Wine Growers Association. Explains the HB 3442-2 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
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Chair Doyle |
Asks Conklin to explain the subsequent referral to
Ways and Means. |
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095 |
Conklin |
Explains why the HB 3442 has a subsequent referral
to Ways and Means. |
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113 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on HB 3442. |
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HB 3442
WORK SESSION |
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125 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3442-2 amendments dated
4/10/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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131 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB 3442 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means
by prior reference. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Speaks in support of HB 3442 as amended. |
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Rep. Backlund |
Speaks in support of HB 3442 as amended. |
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160 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 (SEE TAPE 40, A AT 040) AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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157 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 3442 and opens a
public hearing on HJM 1. |
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HJM 1
PUBLIC HEARING |
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162 |
Paul DiAngelo |
Speaking for himself. Submits prepared statement, letters of endorsement, and
calculations in using the proposed program (EXHIBIT C). Testifies in
support of HJM 1. |
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230 |
DiAngelo |
Continues presentation. |
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280 |
DiAngelo |
Continues presentation |
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334 |
DiAngelo |
Reads headline of article from The Oregonian on economic stimulus on April 8, 2003. |
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370 |
DiAngelo |
Continues presentation. |
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435 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks how long it would take a person to be eligible
under the program. |
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DiAngelo |
Responds that it will vary. Comments on earnings and contributions to
the Social Security system. |
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TAPE 40, A |
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032 |
Chair Doyle |
Recesses the public hearing on HJM 1 and reopens the
work session on HCR 3 for the purpose of allowing Rep. Barnhart and Rep.
Close to vote on passage of HCR 3. |
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HCR 3
WORK SESSION |
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040 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BARNHART AND REP CLOSE to BE RECORDED as voting
AYE on the motion that HCR 3 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS
AMENDED recommendation. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Votes AYE. |
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REP. Close |
Votes AYE. |
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040 |
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VOTE:
7-0-1 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. GILMAN will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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042 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HCR 3 and reopens the
work session on HB 3442 for the purpose of allowing Rep. Close to vote on
passage of the measure. |
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HB 3441
WORK SESSION |
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039 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. CLOSE to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion
that HB 3442 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation
and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference. |
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Rep. Close |
Votes AYE. |
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040 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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046 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 3441 and reopens the
public hearing on HJM 1. |
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HJM 1
PUBLIC HEARING |
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048 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments that DiAngelo has given good information
and the point of the memorial is to ask Congress to authorize a trial program
that allows first-time home buyers to borrow against Social Security
contributions at a low rate of interest. |
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050 |
Rep. Verger |
Commends DiAngelo for his proposal. |
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DiAngelo |
Responds that he has never owned a home and this is
only for families. Comments on
letters of endorsement included in the packet (EXHIBIT C). |
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090 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments on the Social Security Trust Fund. Believes this is an intriguing proposal. Comments that this is only asking Congress
to look at the proposal. |
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Rep. Flores |
Thanks DiAngelo for his creative thinking and the
proposal. |
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114 |
Rep. Backlund |
Comments on the depth of the study and proposal
presented by DiAngelo. States there
are benefits other than taxes and homeownership. |
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Rep. Verger |
Comments that she like the idea of the pilot program
to see how it would work. |
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135 |
DiAngelo |
Reads article from The Statesman Journal (EXHIBIT
C, page 12). |
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149 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on HJM 1. |
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HJM 1
WORK SESSION |
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161 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HJM 1 be sent to the floor with a BE
ADOPTED recommendation. |
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Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Comments on concerns about draining the Social
Security fund if people default but will vote for the memorial and let the
federal government figure it out. |
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147 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments he has the same concerns and would like to
see if Congress will take a look at the proposal. |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. ZAUNER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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188 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HJM 1 and opens and
closes public hearings on a series of measures on the agenda. |
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201 |
Chair Doyle |
Opens the public hearing on HB 2143. |
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HB 2143
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2143 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2377. |
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HB 2377
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Closes the public hearing on HB 2377 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2399. |
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HB 2399
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2399 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2444. |
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HB 2444
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2444 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2446. |
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HB 2446
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2446 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2472. |
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HB 2472
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2472 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2499. |
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HB 2499
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2499 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2615. |
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HB 2615
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2615 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2648. |
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HB 2648
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2648 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2657. |
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HB 2657
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2657 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2740. |
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HB 2740
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2740 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2752. |
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HB 2752
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2752 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2825. |
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HB 2825
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2825 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2835. |
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HB 2835
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2835 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2839. |
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HB 2839
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2839 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2930. |
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HB 2930
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2930 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2931. |
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HB 2931
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2931 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2932. |
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HB 2932
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2931 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2935. |
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HB 2935
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2935 and opens a public;
hearing on HB 2942. |
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HB 2942
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2942 and turn the
gavel to Vice-Chair Flores. |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Opens a public hearing on HB 2956. |
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HB 2956
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2956 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3000. |
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HB 3000
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3000 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3059. |
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HB 3059
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3059 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3112. |
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HB 3112
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3112 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3238. |
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HB 3238
PUBLIC HEARING. |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3238 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3304. |
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HB 3304
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3304 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3446. |
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HB 3446
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3446 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3447. |
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HB 3447
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3447 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3499. |
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HB 3499
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3499 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3540. |
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HB 3540
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3540 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3560. |
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HB 3560
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3560 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3565. |
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HB 3565
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3565 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3586. |
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HB 3586
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3586 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3602. |
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HB 3602
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3602 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3606. |
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HB 3606
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3606 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3611. |
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HB 3611
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3611 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 1. |
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HJR 1
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 1 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 15. |
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HJR 15
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 15 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 22. |
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HJR 22
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 22 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 31. |
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HJR 31
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 31 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 39. |
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HJR 39
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 39 and opens a
public hearing on HJR 54. |
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HJR 54
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Vice-Chair Flores |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 54 and turns the
gavel back to Chair Doyle. |
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269 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks committee to stand at ease from 1:52 until 2:00
p.m. |
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Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting and opens a public hearing on
HB 2442. |
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HB 2442
PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2442 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3498. |
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HB 3498
PUBLIC HEARING |
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280 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3498 and adjourns
the meeting at 2:01 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
HCR 3, HCR3-1 amendments, Rep. Gilman, 1 p
B
HB 3442, HB 3442-2 amendments, Gary Conklin, 16 pp
C
HJM 1, prepared statement, letters and calculations, Paul DiAngelo, 28 pp