HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
May 29, 2003 Hearing Room E
1:00 PM Tapes 68 - 69
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Administrator
Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 3611 – Public Hearing
HJR 54 – Public Hearing
SB 7 A – Public Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
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Tape 68, A |
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Chair Doyle |
Calls meeting to order at 1:04 p.m., announces order
agenda items will be considered, and opens a work session on introduction of
Speaker-approved committee bills. |
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INTRODUCTION
OF SPEAKER-APPROVED COMMITTEE BILL |
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Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves LC 3642 (SEE EXHIBIT B OF COMMITTEE
MINUTES DATED MAY 22, 2003) BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Reps. Backlund and Flores |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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029 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on introduction of
Speaker-approved committee bills and opens a public hearing on SB 7 A. |
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SB 7 A
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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Chair Doyle |
Announces that the SB 7 A3 amendments proposed by
Rep. Dalto will not be considered today (EXHIBIT
A), and enters into record a joint statement from Senators Courtney and Winters
in support of SB 7 A (EXHIBIT B). |
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Katie Cannon |
Director, Oregon State Fair. Testifies in support of SB 7 A. Submits summary of SB 7A (EXHIBIT C). Explains that the measure allows the State
Fair to have a cooperative working relationship with a non-profit foundation. States they are in the process of
developing the foundation. States it
is clear what the relationship would be and what the limitations would be on
that relationship. |
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054 |
Kathy Goss |
Chair, Oregon State Fair Board of Commissioners. Reports that the commissioners support the
bill. |
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067 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks Cannon to explain the intent of Section 2(3). |
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Cannon |
Explains the intent is to allow the State Fair to
support those activities, especially at the fair grounds. Gives example of raising money to restore
historical doors on the stadium. |
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078 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments that he is concerned (3) seems to be giving
the agency broad discretion on how to use supplies, staff, and services for
the foundation. |
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Cannon |
Explains that in drafting the bill they worked with
Senators Courtney and Winters, Legislative Counsel, and their assistant
attorney general. States their
assistant attorney general had done some research to see if other agencies
are allowed to do this sort of thing.
Gives example of the Oregon Law Commission being allowed to cooperate
with foundations. Agrees the
paragraph is very open. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Comments he is familiar with the operation of the
University of Oregon Foundation, and states that people will not contribute to
the foundation if the overhead is too high.
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Rep. Verger |
Asks that the witnesses give a scenario of what they
might do that would be addressed by (3). |
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Cannon |
Explains that if the foundation wants to put on a
reception for potential donors, her staff would have to coordinate the events
and would need to provide the foundation with tickets for admission and
parking. Perhaps a sponsor will
provide the food and they would help coordinate it; it takes the coordination
and the agency providing some services.
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Rep. Verger |
Asks if the motivation is to put them in a better
position of expanding their base. |
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Cannon |
Responds affirmatively. States the letter from Senators Courtney and Winters provides
information on what has been going on at the State Fair. This would help expand their
activities. Gives examples of
replacing doors on historic building and building arena, and the need to help
the 4-H and FFA. |
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Rep. Verger |
Comments on the importance of 4-H and FFA in rural
Oregon. The success of the agency
means they are contributing to the lives of young people. |
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Chair Doyle |
States there is concerned about tightening the
language in Section 3. Asks that they
work together to get an amendment. |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on SB 7 A and opens public
hearings on HB 3611 and HJR 54. |
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HB 3611
and HJR 54 – PUBLIC HEARINGS |
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Rep. Linda Flores |
District 51.
Testifies in support of HB 3611 and HJR 54. States that HB 3611 is based on actual revenue as opposed to
projected, which the current kicker law is established upon. Comments on how the projection is made
currently and the eight misses on the forecast. HB 3611 would require that growth be based on actual income to
the state and help move the state to a more economically stable planning process. It allows for a five percent growth in
government over two years. |
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Rep. Flores |
Submits and explains chart comparing revenue results
of the current kicker law and HB 3611 (EXHIBIT
D). |
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Kevin Mannix |
Attorney in private practice and citizen. Testifies in support of HB 3611 and
particularly HJR 54. States this is
the best kicker reform this session because it moves away from the false
projection and it tells what will happen to the excess revenues. Comments on existing system of projecting
revenues. This proposal strengthens
the kicker law and makes it smarter. Comments
on the formula for distribution of the funds in the proposed legislation. Encourages
the committee to support the referral.
Suggests implementing legislation is necessary and it could be passed
in the session afterward but it would be better to have implementation
legislation so people will know what will happen. Advises that “purposes deemed to be emergencies by the
Legisative Assembly” is left open.
Suggests it could be limited by including a provision for a two-thirds
vote of the House and the Senate, or by a majority vote. |
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Mannix |
Comments that the repeal provision should be at
least eight years, or no repeal at all.
Comments on chart submitted by Rep. Flores (EXHIBIT D). |
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TAPE 69, A |
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Chair Doyle |
States that Section 14 of HJR 54 is repealed on June
30, 2007; it is only that section that references July 1, 2003. |
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Mannix |
Withdraws his suggestion on the repealing language
he suggested. |
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Rep. Flores |
Comments she thinks this is a good planning
tool. Comments there were recessions
in 1982 and 1992 and now in 2002-03.
States there needs to be a plan to look ahead and believes this is a
good tool for doing that. |
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Chair Doyle |
Advises members there are a couple of things to look
to for amendments, and that the committee may revisit the issue in this
proposal or another measure relating to the kicker in the next couple of
weeks. |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearings on HB 3611 and HJR 54 and
adjourns the meeting at 1:35 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 7, SB 7 A3 amendments, Rep. Dalto, 2 pp
B
– SB 7, prepared statement, Senators Courtney and Winters, 1 p
C
– SB 7, prepared statement, Katie Cannon, 7 pp
D
– HB 3611, revenue chart, Rep. Flores, 1 p