HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
June 03, 2003 Hearing Room E
1:00 PM Tapes 70 -71
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Administrator
Megan Palau, Administrator
Patrick Brennan, Administrator
Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 103 B – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2857 A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 456 A – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 70, A |
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004 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls meeting to order at 1:07 p.m. and announces
order agenda items will be considered.
Comments on staffing for the remainder of the session. |
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018 |
Chair Doyle |
Opens a work session on introduction of Speaker-approved
committee bills. |
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INTRODUCTION
OF SPEAKER-APPROVED COMMITTEE BILLS |
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022 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves LC 3659 (EXHIBIT A) BE INTRODUCED as
a committee bill. |
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Chair Doyle |
Comments that LC 3659 is the Sine Die resolution. |
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040 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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037 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on introduction of
Speaker-approved committee bills and opens a public hearing on SB 103 B. |
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SB 103
B – PUBLIC HEARING |
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043 |
Cheryl Pellegrini |
Oregon Department of Justice. Testifies in support of SB 103 B. Explains why the bill was introduced by
the Department of Justice. Explains
the provisions of the bill (EXHIBIT B). |
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100 |
Rep Verger |
States she is part of an auto dealership. Asks if “bushing” is a widespread problem. |
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Pellegrini |
Explains history of problem. |
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Rep. Verger |
States she has no objection to putting in
restrictions that keep people honest. |
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139 |
Darrell Fuller |
Oregon Auto Dealers Association. Testifies in support of SB 103 B (EXHIBIT C). |
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180 |
Fuller |
Explains they wanted to remove the incentive for the
dealer to keep the customer in the car for a long period of time in order to
collect the cost of mileage. |
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193 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on SB 103 B. |
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SB 103
B – WORK SESSION |
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215 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 103 B to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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221 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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222 |
Chair
Doyle |
MOTION: Moves SB 103 B be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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223 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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225 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 103 B and opens a
public hearing on HB 2857 A. |
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HB 2857
A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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234 |
Rep. Alan Bates |
District 55.
Testifies in support of HB 2857 A.
Explains there is a war in Southern Oregon over taxation without
representation. Explains history of the transportation
district in the Rogue Valley, and the lack of authority for the assessor and
the transit board to make changes in the district boundaries to exclude those
who do not receive services from the taxing district. |
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290 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains that the committee wants to focus on the
technical change that is needed because the merits of the bill were heard and
discussed in another committee. |
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299 |
Rep. Bates |
Explains that the bill as originally written was too
broad and would have affected other districts; the amendments (EXHIBIT D) specifically name Rogue
Valley and the measure could not affect anyone else. |
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310 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments that the HB 2857 A4 amendments (EXHIBIT D) do not amend the statute
that deals with the general issue; they just take care of this problem and
then go away in 2006. |
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323 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on HB 2857 A. |
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HB 2857
A – WORK SESSION |
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333 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2857-A4 amendments dated
6/3/03. |
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338 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Flores |
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340 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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342 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves HB
2857 A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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345 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 (SEE TAPE 70, B AT 319) AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Flores |
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348 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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REP.
GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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336 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 2857 A and opens a
public hearing on SB 456 A. |
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SB 456
A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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340 |
Sen.. Morrisette |
District 6. Testifies in support of SB 456 A. Explains that SB 456 A makes it clear that
teachers should meet with the parents and discuss the behavior of the
child. Comments on incidents of child
behavior. Asks that this be enacted
as statutory language instead of administrative rule, as will be suggested by
other witnesses. |
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TAPE 71 A |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Notes that federal legislation H.R. 1170 is pending
and is similar to SB 456 A. Asks if
SB 456 would establish Oregon’s compliance with the federal legislation |
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Sen.
Morrisette |
States that a bill did pass Congress requiring
states to have this kind of direction.
Adds that 16 states have either passed a similar stature or are in the
process of passing it. This would be
in compliance with the federal legislation. |
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023 |
Rep. Close |
Asks if the Kip Kinkle incident influenced this
legislation. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Responds negatively. Comments on the Kinkle case.
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033 |
Rep. Close |
Asks if it has been confirmed that Kinkle was on
drugs. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on article in the Register Guard. |
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050 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Sen. Morrisette is aware of specific
instance where a teacher has told a parent the child needs to be on
medication. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States there will be witnesses who will tell of incidents. States they do not want teachers
diagnosing; they want teachers to describe the behavior of the child. It must be a non-threatening discussion by
the teacher. Comments on experience
as a teacher. |
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083 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Sen. Morrisette is saying SB 456 A is needed
because teachers are not aware of what they should be doing. |
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080 |
Sen. Morrisette |
States he thinks there is a tendency to perhaps
assume that the problem is attention deficit which requires a drug to fix the
problem. The case could be a
misdiagnosis of the child’s inattention because of boredom. |
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093 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Comments that a prescription could not be given to a
parent and is surprised that this bill is needed. |
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133 |
Rep. Barnhart |
States he is concerned because he is aware of the
complexity of the diagnosis of ADHD and the proper treatment. Comments it is not always easy to
determine the causes. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Comments that a teacher and school personnel must
describe the behavior of the student and not assign a cause to the
behavior. They are limited to
explaining what the child is doing and let the parent know they need to deal
with the problem. |
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167 |
Laurie Wimmer-Whelan |
Oregon Education Association (OEA). Testifies in opposition to SB 456 A. Comments on H. R. 1170 in Congress. Feels the language in SB 456 A may have a
chilling effect on communication between a parent and the faculty or school
nurse, not only about the behavior but also academic issues. They feel the language in Section 1(1) explicitly
says the teacher could not have contact with the parent about those issues.. Believes the federal legislation more
fairly contemplated the contact and they prefer the federal legislation, and that
the Oregon Department of Education could write administrative rules. |
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216 |
Chuck Bennett |
Confederation of School Administrators (COSA) and Oregon
School Boards Association (OSBA).
Supports comments by Wimmer-Whelan.
Thinks there would be a chilling effect on conversations. They prefer the federal legislation and resulting
administrative rules. |
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246 |
Angie DeRouchie |
Citizens Commission on Human Rights of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 456 A (EXHIBIT E). |
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357 |
DeRouchie |
Comments she does not know that we want to wait for
the federal legislation. |
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382 |
Jim Whittenburg |
Retired pharmacists. Testifies in support of SB 456 A. Submits information on drugs (EXHBIIT F). Asks the
committee to note the side effects of drugs (EXHIBIT F, page 3). |
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TAPE 70, B |
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022 |
Whittenburg |
Continues testimony in support of SB 456 A. |
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098 |
Don Stecher |
Novartis Pharmaceutical and a certified teacher. Testifies
in support of SB 456 A. Believes the
bill is reasonable and modest and teachers should teach and doctors should
doctor. They believe if a teacher
recommends that a parent have a student see a physician in regard to specific
behavior the teacher is seeing in school, it would then be reasonable and
prudent for the physician to prescribe medication to take care of the
patient’s problem. They think the drugs are not for everyone but do help some
very much. |
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127 |
Sen.
Morrisette |
Comments he thinks there is an appropriate diagnosis
and application of the medication; it is the inappropriate use they are
concerned about. |
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136 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and asks the committee to
stand at ease at 2:10 p.m. |
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137 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting at 2:16 p.m. and opens a work
session on SB 456 A. |
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SB 456
A – WORK SESSION |
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142 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 456 A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Speaks in support of SB 456 A. |
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181 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Explains why she will vote no on the bill. |
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190 |
Rep. Verger |
Explains why she will vote no on the bill. |
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Rep. Backlund |
Explains why he will vote yes. |
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271 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains why he supports the bill. |
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305 |
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VOTE:
5-2-0 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Barnhart, Close, Flores, Doyle NAY: 2 - Monnes Anderson, Verger |
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309 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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REP.
BARNHART will lead discussion on the floor. |
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313 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 456 A and asks for
unanimous consent to return to HB 2857 A for the purpose of allowing Rep.
Flores to vote on passage of the bill. |
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HB 2857
A – WORK SESSION |
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318 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. FLORES to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion
on passage of HB 2857 A to the floor with a DO PASS AS
AMENDED recommendation. |
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319 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. GILMAN will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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323 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 2857 A and adjourns the
meeting at 2:28 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– Introduction of committee bills, introduction request, staff, 2 pp
B
– SB 103, prepared statement, Cheryl Pellegrini, 2 pp
C
– SB 103, prepared statement, Darrell Fuller, 1 p
D
– HB 2857, HB 2857-A4 amendments, Rep. Bates, 1 p
E
– SB 456, prepared statement, Angie DeRouchie, 2 pp
F
– SB 456, prepared statement, Jim Whittenburg, 4 pp