HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
July 29, 2003 Hearing Room HR E
1:30 PM Tapes 103 - 104
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Committee Administrator
Ray Kelly, Administrator
David Peffley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
3442 A – Work Session
SB 908 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 919 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 909 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3628 – Work Session
SB 757 A – Public Hearing and Work Session
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tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 103,
A |
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003 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m., announces
the hearing schedule, and opens a work session on HB 3442. |
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HB 3442
– WORK SESSION |
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014 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces the –A3 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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026 |
Gary Conklin |
Oregon Wine Growers. Recalls for the committee the previous hearings on the bill and
addresses the changes called for by the Governor as evidenced in the –A3
amendments. |
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050 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3442-A3 amendments dated
4/29/03. |
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053 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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054 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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056 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB
3442A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED. |
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063 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE:
In a roll call vote,
all members present vote Aye. |
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065 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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067 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves HB 3442A be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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068 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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070 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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071 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 3442 and opens up a
public hearing on SB 908. |
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SB 908
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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078 |
Pat Schwoch |
Executive Director, Manufactured Homeowners of
Oregon. Submits (EXHIBIT B) and testifies in support of SB 908. Notes that the bill is in fact HB 3069,
which passed the house unanimously and stalled in the Senate Committee on
Business and Labor, with one non-substantive word change. |
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123 |
David Nebel |
Oregon Law Commission. Announces support for SB 908 and offers to answer questions on
the bill. |
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128 |
John Brenneman |
Manufactured Housing Communities of Oregon (for
Chuck Carpenter). Testifies in
support for SB 908. |
|
140 |
Rep. Verger |
Announces a potential conflict of interest as she
owns a manufactured home in Salem. |
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145 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for a review of the status of HB 3069, the
progenitor of the current legislation being considered. |
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148 |
Schwoch |
Explains the path that HB 3069 took before becoming
bogged down in the Senate. |
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151 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Affirms that HB 3069 was Senator Walker’s priority
bill. |
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154 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks the vote count on the House floor. |
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155 |
Nebel |
Notes that the count was 58 - 0 - 2. |
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161 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on SB 908. |
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SB 908
– WORK SESSION |
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164 |
Rep. Flores |
Comments that this legislation is important to her
constituents. |
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167 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 908 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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170 |
Rep. Backlund |
Commends that a consensus was able to be agreed upon
amongst the proponents of the bill. |
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176 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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177 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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181 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves SB
908 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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182 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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183 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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186 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 908 and opens a work session
on SB 919. |
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SB 919
– WORK SESSION |
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194 |
Ray Kelly |
Administrator.
Summarizes SB 919, related to Landscape Contractors and notes that it
is the same as HB 2965 which already passed the House floor. |
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209 |
Bill Cross |
Oregon Landscape Contractors Association. Submits (EXHIBIT C) and offers to answer any
questions the committee might have. |
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214 |
Rep. Close |
Asks for an explanation of “b” on Lines 15, 16 regarding
the $500 figure. |
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221 |
Mike Snyder |
Landscape Contractor’s Board. Notes that the $500 exemption has always
been in the statutes. States the
reasons for the exemption. |
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232 |
Rep. Close |
References Page 3 and asks about the Portland,
Salem, Oregon, Washington Consumer Price Index. |
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234 |
Snyder |
Explains the reasons for the price index. |
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252 |
Rep. Close |
Asks why Salem is being added and not Portland. |
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254 |
Snyder |
Expresses uncertainty. |
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257 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Offers a possible explanation. |
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260 |
Cross |
Notes that the reference was inserted by Legislative
Council, not at the request of the Landscape Contractors. |
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263 |
Chair Doyle |
Reaffirms Cross’ statement and adds that it is
merely a stylistic issue and that it is not adding anything substantive. |
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271 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on SB 919. |
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SB 919
Work Session |
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274 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 919 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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281 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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283 |
Chair
Doyle |
MOTION: Moves SB 919 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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284 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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285 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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285 |
Chair
Doyle |
Closes
the work session on SB 919 and opens a public hearing on SB 909. |
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SB 909
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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288 |
Scott Barrie |
Oregon Building Industry Association (OBIA). Notes that SB 909 is the reincarnation of
HB 2389, which passed the House 58-0 and urges passage. |
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316 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if the defect in the original bill has been
repaired in the current legislation. |
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321 |
Rep. Close |
Notes that HB 2389 had much work done to it in the
House Committee on Labor and Consumer Affairs. |
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327 |
Lana Butterfield |
Professional Insurance Agents of Oregon and
Idaho. Submits (EXHIBIT D) and expresses confidence that the proposed
legislation will be quite beneficial to insurance concerns. |
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334 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on SB 909 and opens a work
session on SB 909. |
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SB 909
– WORK SESSION |
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338 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 909 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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345 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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349 |
Chair
Doyle |
MOTION: Moves SB 909 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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351 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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352 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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354 |
Chair
Doyle |
Closes
the work session on SB 909 and opens a work session on HB 3638. |
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HB 3638
– WORK SESSION |
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363 |
Chair Doyle |
States that this bill has changed with the
submission of the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT
E) at the request of the Governor.
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|
366 |
Bob Cantine |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Submits (EXHIBIT F) and speaks to the consensus reached with various
state agencies. Speaks in support of
the -4 amendments. Addresses the need
for this legislation. Requests the
removal of the subsequent referral to Ways and Means, as there is no longer
any fiscal impact. |
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421 |
Chair Doyle |
Confirms that indeed there is no fiscal impact. |
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TAPE 104,
A |
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002 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks who would assume liability in the circumstance
of a lawsuit regarding the provision of services. |
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006 |
Cantine |
Replies that the County could be liable and possibly
the State, as well. |
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011 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks about the Commission on Children and Families
and whether it is addressed by the -4 amendments. |
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014 |
Cantine |
Affirms that they are not included in the -4
amendments, but will be part of the larger policy discussion. |
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021 |
Chair Doyle |
Enters the July 29 letter from Barry Kast, Assistant
Director of the Department of Human Services (DHS) (EXHIBIT G) into the record. |
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Erinn Kelley-Siel |
Policy Advisor for Health and Human Services to
Governor Kulongoski. Submits written
testimony in support of the HB 3638-4 but does not testify (EXHIBIT H). |
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025 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3638-4 amendments dated 7/15/03. |
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026 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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027 |
Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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029 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB 3638 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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034 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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035 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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035 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves HB 3638 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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040 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 3638 and opens a
public hearing on SB 757. |
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SB 757
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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044 |
John Shilts |
Administrator, Worker’s Compensation Division of the
Department of Consumer and Business Services. Submits (EXHIBIT I) testifies
in support of SB 757 A, which will improve the equity of permanent partial
disability awards for injured workers and simplify a complex benefit structure. Gives background to the existing law and
asserts that the bill is cost-neutral.
Addresses the sunset clause. |
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153 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks the current State average weekly wage. |
|
163 |
Shilts |
States that the average wage is slightly more than
$650/week. |
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173 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks how the current problem with award distortion developed.
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|
177 |
Shilts |
States that he is not sure how the trend developed. |
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188 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks what percentage range of the state average
injured workers can receive. |
|
193 |
Shilts |
Notes that injured workers fall just a little bit
below the state average weekly wage. |
|
210 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if scheduled or unscheduled are based on the
doctors’ reports. |
|
214 |
Shilts |
Gives the process of doctors’ diagnoses with regard
to scheduling. |
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231 |
Rep. Verger |
Addresses constituent complaints regarding the long
distances traveled in order to receive medical care and asks Shilts to
address this issue. |
|
236 |
Shilts |
Addresses the problem and the reasons for the great
distances. |
|
264 |
Rep. Verger |
Expresses satisfaction that the problem is being
addressed. Continues by expressing
constituent concerns about transportation to medical care. |
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281 |
Shilts |
States that he’d like to hear more concerns from
workers in order to address them. |
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285 |
Rep. Flores |
Recalls that this legislation is intended to
simplify a very complex process and ask for clarification on how Pages 5-6
accomplish that end. |
|
294 |
Shilts |
Addresses the complexities in the process which
still exist. Reaffirms that the legislation will, however simplify the
benefit structure. |
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318 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks for confirmation that the sunset provision will
not take effect until 2008. |
|
321 |
Shilts |
Confirms that is correct. |
|
324 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks whether the higher awards to be paid will
exacerbate current reserves or whether the rates will have to be adjusted. |
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335 |
Shilts |
Reiterates that this proposal is intended to be cost
neutral. |
|
353 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks whether the workers comp amount which is taken
out of the paycheck is standard for everyone. |
|
357 |
Shilts |
Affirms that is correct. Elaborates on the funding of the program. |
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376 |
Rep Barnhart |
Asks about the nature of the payments to be received
by the injured workers. |
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382 |
Shilts |
Notes that they are generally lump-sum payments at
the end of the claim when the worker’s recovery is relatively stationary. |
|
410 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if significant awards can be annuitized. |
|
414 |
Shilts |
Replies that the award is generally in the form of a
lump sum, but that the worker could arrange an annuity. |
|
421 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks Shilts to describe the case where a worker
returns to work according to the bill. |
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447 |
Shilts |
Explains awards under various circumstances. |
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TAPE 103,
B |
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015 |
Shilts |
Concludes his explanation of awards vis-à-vis SB 757
A. |
|
024 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if there is an ombudsman or grievance process
aggrieved workers can utilize. |
|
029 |
Shilts |
Affirms that the Department does have an ombudsman. |
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039 |
JL Wilson |
National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB). Supports the workman’s comp bill whole
heartedly. Discusses cost-neutrality and specifies his preference to see the
bill pass without the –A6 amendments (EXHIBIT
J), which were submitted at NFIB’s request. |
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065 |
Brad Witt |
Oregon American Federation of Labor – Congress of
Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO). Testifies in support SB 757 A, stating
that this bill is an innovative approach to workers compensation. Addresses
compensation for those unable to work and incentives to get people back to
work. |
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111 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing on SB 757 A and opens a
work session on SB 757 A. |
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SB 757
A – WORK SESSION |
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|
114 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 757A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
|
118 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Expresses satisfaction that this bill introduces a
system to get people back to work. |
|
144 |
Rep. Verger |
Addresses the great challenges to those critically
hurt on the job. Encourages this issue to be explored further during the
interim. |
|
163 |
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VOTE:
7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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165 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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169 |
Barnhart |
States that he doesn’t believe that SB 757 A should
be placed on the consent calendar. |
|
171 |
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Chair
Doyle will lead the discussion on the floor. |
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174 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 757 A and adjourns the
meeting at 2:46 p.m.. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 3442, -A3 amendments, staff, 1 p.
B
– SB 908, written testimony, Pat Schwock, 3 pp.
C
– SB 919, written testimony, Bill Cross, 1 p.
D
– SB 909, written testimony, Lana Butterfield, 1 p.
E
– HB 3638, -4 amendments, staff, 9 pp.
F
– HB 3638, written testimony, Robert Cantine, 3 pp.
G
– HB 3638, written testimony, Barry Kast, 1 p.
H
– HB 3638, written testimony, Erinn Kelley-Siel, 1 p.
I
– SB 757 A, written testimony, John Shilts, 2 pp.
J-
SB 757 A, -A6 amendments, staff, 6 pp.