HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
August 12, 2003 Hearing Room E
3:00 PM Tapes 116 - 117
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Administrator
Janet Adkins, Administrator
Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: LC 3803 – Work Session
SB 899 – Work Session
SB 260B – Work Session
SB 5A – Work Session
HB 3627 – Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 116,
A |
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004 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls
meeting to order at 3:34 p.m., announces order agenda items will be
considered, and opens a work session for consideration of possible committee
measures (EXHIBIT A). |
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LC 3803
– WORK SESSION |
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010 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves LC 3803 BE INTRODUCED as a committee
bill. |
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012 |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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015 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes
the work session for consideration of possible committee measures, and opens
a work session on SB 899. |
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SB 899 – WORK SESSION |
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020 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 899 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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025 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses
her concerns with the bill, but indicates her intent to vote Aye on the
motion. |
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040 |
Rep. Close |
Clarifies
that the Oregon company in question would not necessarily receive the
contract, but would be given the option to re-bid on the contract. |
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045 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains
that if the Oregon company were within ten percent of the out-of-state
companies bid, they would be awarded the contract. |
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055 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Expresses
his concerns with the bill and the process, commenting on the possibility of
lost jobs due increasing the cost of license plates. Points out the possible
decrease in construction funding to cities and counties. Indicates his intent
to vote Aye on the bill in committee, but points out he may vote No on the
bill on the House floor. |
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065 |
Rep. Backlund |
Expresses
his concerns with the bill, but indicates his intent to vote Aye on the
motion. |
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075 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments
on the need for the state to employ Oregonians when at all possible, and
indicates her intent to vote Aye on the motion. |
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085 |
Chair Doyle |
Points
out that he will be a courtesy vote on the motion before the committee, but
expresses his intention to vote No when the bill is on the House floor.
Exhibits letters from the Oregon Department of Transportation (EXHIBIT B), and from Irwin Hodson (EXHIBIT C). Comments on the
existence of “reciprocity” statutes in Oregon and other states, which would
cause those states to negatively consider Oregon bids in direct proportion to
SB 899. |
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125 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE:
In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. T. SMITH will lead discussion on the floor. |
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130 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes
the work session on SB 899, and opens a work session on SB 260B. |
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SB 260B – WORK SESSION |
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135 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering the vote
on SB 260B. |
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140 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains
the need for reconsidering the bill, pointing out the need for clarifying
language which would alleviate possible unintended consequences. Introduces
the -B7 amendments (EXHIBIT D) to
SB 260B. |
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145 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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150 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which the committee passed SB 260 to
the House floor. |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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152 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves to ADOPT SB 260B-B7 amendments dated 08/12/03. |
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155 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks
that Mr. Ario, with the Department of Consumer and Business Services, address
the issue. |
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160 |
Joel Ario |
Department
of Consumer and Business Services. Offers an explanation of the issue being
addressed in the -B7 amendments. |
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175 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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180 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves SB 260B to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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185 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE:
In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. CLOSE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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190 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes
the work session on SB 260B, and observes the need to revise the agenda
before the committee. Recesses the meeting at 3:48 p.m. |
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RECESS |
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195 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls
the meeting back to order at 3:53 p.m. and opens a work session on SB 5A. |
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SB 5A – WORK SESSION |
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200 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains
the reason for bring SB 5A back before the committee, and introduces the
proposed -A6 amendments (EXHIBIT E).
Offers an explanation of the bill and the issue in question. Refers to a
written section-by-section analysis (EXHIBIT
F) which indicts the changes between the original bill, dealing with the baseball
stadium funding issue, and SB 5A. References the revenue impact statement (EXHIBIT G) and fiscal impact
statement (EXHIBIT H) issued for
HB 3606 (the original baseball stadium funding bill). |
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245 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves to ADOPT SB 5A-A6 amendments dated 08/01/03. |
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250 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks
that the committee be given the opportunity to review the proposed -A6
amendments. |
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255 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Allows
that the existence of a Major League Baseball (MLB) team in Oregon could be
good for the state, but points to the current economic crisis before the
state, and expresses concern for the state funding the stadium while unable
to fund other programs. Indicates her intention to vote No on the motion and
the bill. |
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290 |
Rep. Close |
Indicates
her interest in bringing MLB to Oregon, but expresses concern for the funding
mechanisms in the bill. |
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305 |
Rep. Verger |
Points
out her interest in bringing MLB to Oregon, and commends those who have
worked on the issue. However, expresses her concerns regarding the funding
issue, and indicates her intent to vote No on the bill. |
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325 |
Rep. Backlund |
Indicates
his support for bringing a MLB team to Oregon, and indicates his intent to
vote Aye on the motion and the bill. |
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340 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Recalls
the previous hearings held on the issue, and remembers his previous concerns.
Indicates his concerns were lessened due to the funding mechanism in the bill.
Speaks to the lack of negative comments from his district on the issue, and points
out the improvements made in this bill over the previously passed bill. Indicates
his intent to vote Aye on the motion and support the bill. |
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415 |
Rep. Flores |
Points
out that this bill is a framework to fund the project, but does not create
debt or obligation for the state. Indicates her intent to vote Aye on the
motion and support the bill. |
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TAPE 117, A |
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005 |
Rep. Closes |
Questions
the local government obligations, and whether the state could be found liable
if the involved local governments were unable to fulfill that obligation. |
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015 |
Steve Kanter |
President,
Portland Baseball Group; Oregon Stadium Campaign. Offers testimony in support
of SB 5A and the proposed –A6 amendments. Points out the state does not have
an obligation under the bill. |
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020 |
Rep. Close |
Clarifies
that if a local government went bankrupt the debt would fall on the state. |
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025 |
Kanter |
Explains
that under this bill there would be no such obligation to the state, but
allows that a future legislature could choose to fund if the local
governments where unable to meet their obligation. Points out that the State
Treasurers concerns have been alleviated with the bill before the committee. |
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040 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments
on the misperception that this issue is frivolous. Comments on the revenue
forecasts which have been issued since the original hearings on the bill.
Points out that this bill is an economic bill, and it is the legislatures mandate
to create jobs for Oregonians. |
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075 |
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VOTE: 4-2 AYE:
4 - Backlund, Barnhart, Flores, Doyle NAY:
2 - Close, Monnes Anderson EXCUSED:
1 - Verger |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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080 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves SB 5A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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085 |
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VOTE: 4-2 AYE:
4 - Backlund, Barnhart, Flores, Doyle NAY:
2 - Close, Monnes Anderson EXCUSED:
1 - Verger |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. DOYLE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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090 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes
the work session on SB 5A, and opens a work session on HB 3627. |
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HB 3627 – WORK SESSION |
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100 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves to ADOPT HB 3627-2 amendments dated 08/07/03. |
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105 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains
the reason for the bill, the difficulty of the issue, and the need to adopt
the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT I). Further
offers testimony in support of HB 3627. |
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145 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments
on the extensive changes created by the -2 amendments and questions whether
the chair intends to hold public hearings to address the changes. |
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147 |
Chair Doyle |
Indicates
that he does not intent to hold public hearings, and further clarifies the
changes created by the -2 amendments. |
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150 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks
whether the committee knows the Governor’s stance on the changes created by
the -2 amendments. |
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152 |
Chair Doyle |
Indicates
that he is unaware of the Governor’s stance on the bill. |
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154 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks
whether the committee has heard the views of those who might be affected by
the bill. |
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157 |
Chair Doyle |
Points
to the original public hearings vetted these issues, and that the state
employee unions did not agree with the bill. |
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160 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses
her concerns with the bill, in light of her history working on the issue
through various unions. Indicates her intention to vote No on the motion. |
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180 |
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VOTE: 4-2 AYE:
4 - Backlund, Close, Flores, Doyle NAY:
2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson EXCUSED:
1 - Verger |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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185 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION:
Moves HB 3627 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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190 |
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VOTE: 4-2 AYE:
4 - Backlund, Close, Flores, Doyle NAY:
2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson EXCUSED:
1 - Verger |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. DOYLE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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195 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes
the work session on HB 3627, and adjourns the meeting at 4:21 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– LC 3803, Chair letter and LC draft, staff, 10 pp.
B
– SB 899, submitted letter from Kelly Taylor, Chair Doyle, 2 p.
C
– SB 899, submitted letter from Irwin Hodson, Chair Doyle, 1 p.
D
– SB 260B, -B7 amendments, staff, 1 p.
E
– SB 5A, -A6 amendments, staff, 10 pp.
F
– SB 5A, section by section analysis, staff, 3 pp.
G
– SB 5A, HB 3606 revenue impact statement, staff, 2 pp.
H
– SB 5A, HB 3606 fiscal impact statement, staff, 1 p.
I
– HB 3627, -2 amendments, staff, 1 p.