HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
August 19, 2003 Hearing Room E
3:00 PM Tapes 124 - 126
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Administrator
Ray Kelly, Administrator
Janet Adkins, Administrator
Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SJR 2 – Work Session
Introduction of Speaker-Approved committee bill
HB 3510 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 911 B – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 920 A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 934 – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 124,
A |
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004 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls meeting to order at 3:47 p.m., announces order
agenda items will be considered, and opens a work session on SJR 2 A. |
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SJR 2 A
– WORK SESSION |
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016 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SJR 2 A to the floor WITHOUT
RECOMMENDATION as to passage and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Revenue BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the House Special Committee on
Budget. |
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018 |
Chair
Doyle |
Explains
that the committee has been asked to move the bill to the Budget Committee,
and that it had a prior referral to Revenue. |
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VOTE:
4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Flores, Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 -
Barnhart, Monnes Anderson EXCUSED: 1 - Close |
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038 |
Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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039 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SJR 2 A and opens a work
session on introduction of Speaker-approved committee bill. |
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INTRODUCTION
OF SPEAKER-APPROVED COMMITTEE BILL |
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035 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves LC 3739 BE INTRODUCED as a committee
bill (EXHIBIT A). |
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045 |
Rep.
Verger |
Asks
what will happen to this measure if SJR 2A does not move. |
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048 |
Chair
Doyle |
Explains
that this measure is being introduced as a committee bill and assignment to a
committee will be up to the Speaker. |
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054 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on introduction of Speaker-approved
committee bill and opens a public hearing on HB 3510. |
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HB 3510
–PUBLIC HEARING |
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057 |
Rep. Gordon Anderson |
District 3. Introduces
Bill Peterson, City Manager of Grants Pass, and Robert Weber, Public Works
Director for Josephine County. Testifies
in support of HB 3510 (EXHIBIT C). |
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134 |
Robert Weber |
Director, Josephine County Public Works
Department. States that the Oregon
Department of Transportation’s (ODOT) policy of transferring jurisdiction of
state highways to local governments has major disadvantages for rural counties. It takes rural counties out of competition
for modernization projects and believes it is an unreasonable shift of the
maintenance burden to local governments that they cannot afford to carry. Believes ODOT’s policy is because of the
fiscal situation but the rural counties and smaller cities are in a worse
state than ODOT. Explains
consequences of the county financial situation on road maintenance. They want to maintain what they have
before moving on to new projects. |
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Weber |
States that the Peterson will speak about a fourth
bridge project that is needed in their urban transportation plan. As part of the project, ODOT wants to
transfer 53 miles of roadway and has offered approximately 50 percent of the
cost of maintenance for the next 20 years.
After that the maintenance would be the responsibility of Josephine
County and they see no improvement in the county’s financial picture other
than what is taking place this year by the legislature. |
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185 |
Weber |
Explains how Josephine County plans to spend the
2003 transportation financing package money; it will not provide any money
for new roads. Contends that the
state, county, and city transportation agencies are in the same financial
straits with aging infrastructure, and believes that we need to discourage
leveraging against the capacity of the local rural road agencies or cities to
adequately maintain their roads with the carrot of the state modernization
projects. |
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160 |
Bill Peterson |
City Manager of Grants Pass. Comments he has seen a lot of changes in
Grants Pass over the last 12 years.
They want to find another way to cross the Rogue River because it is
difficult to drive through Grants Pass.
Explains their bridge locations and capacities and gives example of a
successful road exchange in Coos Bay.
States they are being blackmailed to accept 53 miles of roads which
they cannot financially handle. Gives
examples of six miles of roadway that would require $350,000 a year be put in a sinking fund to pay to
rebuild the roadway after 45 years.
Adds that the maintenance costs would be another $300,000 plus, which
would mean it would cost about $670,000 to maintain and rebuild the
road. With the mandate in place they
cannot move a project which is critical to the county and the city. Adds that the county had the opportunity
to accept another series of roads, which would have represented about 50
percent of the maintenance cost and nothing toward long-term replacement nor
modernization of the roadways they are being mandated to accept in the
exchange. |
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285 |
Peterson |
Explains that HB 3510 simply allows them to not be
mandated to accept; it does not say that they must accept the jurisdictional
exchange or that they must accept maintenance in order to get a roadway that
can be modernized and improved. |
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295 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Ask for a description of the project and an estimate
of traffic volume. |
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Peterson |
Explains traffic volume on roads in Josephine County
and cities. |
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325 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks how many miles of roadway they have. |
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Peterson |
Explains road system in their area. |
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Rep. Anderson |
Further explains road miles and system in Josephine
County. |
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380 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if Sixth and Seventh Streets were once state
highways. |
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Peterson |
Explains that city traffic does move on those
streets, but he would not classify them as no longer functioning as
highways. |
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401 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for clarification of connecting streets and
highways in Grants Pass. |
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Peterson |
Describes traffic patterns. |
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419 |
Weber |
Explains further the highways under various designations. |
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430 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks what the leverage is in the exchange and what
they expect in a modernization project. |
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Peterson |
Responds they are seeking approximately $22 million
that would reconstruct the segment of roadway that would provide a new crossing
to the Rogue River and interconnect back into the municipal and state highway
grids. In exchange for that, the
state said that without a jurisdictional exchange, they would not have a
project and that they must accept certain roadways in order for the state to
consider the project. |
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446 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if the $22 million project is on the STIP. |
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Peterson |
Responds that it is not; it is on the DSTIP. |
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456 |
Rep. Anderson |
Explains that the Area Commission on Transportation,
because of the major needs in Medford, Grants Pass, and Josephine County, has
stepped back and said the interchanges south and north of Medford on I-5 have
been a major need. Explains the road
systems in the area, and states that the fourth bridge is very necessary
because there is a major traffic jam between the other three bridges. The fourth bridge would take traffic off
the other three. |
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493 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if they have worked with ODOT in this matter. |
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495 |
Peterson |
States they have been at this for five years and
believe they have attempted everything they have figured out to do, and have
attempted to negotiate the relative value of what the lane miles might be in
the exchange, whether they could they accept the exchange, and whether there
is some portion of the exchange which would not be necessary, whether there
is some other way to approach the project, and whether they could use toll
bridges. Comments on volumes of
correspondence with ODOT and efforts of a problem-solving group to work with
ODOT. |
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TAPE 125,
A |
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037 |
Rep. Anderson |
Adds that the City of Grants Pass has been open to
making some kind of a deal with ODOT but not at the price that is being
asked. Believes the smaller
communities will be really hurt by this.
They cannot trade when millions of dollars they will never have are
required. If they can come to
agreement with ODOT, that is acceptable.
If they cannot come to agreement, then the project needs to go ahead
as usual depending on the STIP or DSTIP.
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056 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks for the history and development of the
mandatory exchange process. |
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060 |
Peterson |
Explains that the Oregon Transportation Plan became
the basis for the exchange program. |
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078 |
Doug Tindall |
State Maintenance Engineer, ODOT. Submits prepared statement (EXHIBIT B). States he agrees with much of the testimony, and that there
are not enough dollars to maintain the transportation systems whether they
are city, county, or state, and agrees with inflation concerns. States that the cities and counties are
getting revenue for operation and maintenance as part of the new revenue
package; the state is not getting dollars from that revenue package for
operation and maintenance. |
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082 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks if the transportation package does not provide
enough funds. |
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088 |
Tindall |
Responds that he is only talking about the way the
money is divided up, and thanks the legislature for passing the
transportation package. States that
he doesn’t believe ODOT would say they have mandated a transfer. They have been working with local
governments and the Association of Oregon Counties and League of Oregon
Cities to determine when a jurisdictional transfer makes sense. |
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102 |
Tindall |
Explains the policy discussed in the Oregon Highway
Plan endeavors to put the state resources on those highways which are of
statewide importance, to cross the state, cross regions, or travel between
cities. The particular concern with
the bill, because of the way they write agreement to do a modernization
project with a local government includes a number of facets. If a jurisdictional transfer is going to
take place, it is generally in the agreement. They are afraid that the way the bill is worded, it may take
away their flexibility; they do not disagree that they could still do
jurisdictional transfers but it may make it more difficult as part of a
modernization project. Adds that he
understands and sympathizes with any county road master or city public works
director and the problems they are facing.
States that ODOT is committed whether this bill passes or not to
working with local governments to put the sideboards around all
jurisdictional transfers so everyone is on the same page about when it makes
sense and when it will benefit both parties.
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130 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks Tindall if 6th and 7th Street
are part of the local grid system. |
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124 |
Tindall |
Replies that they are and addresses the function of
the state freeway system as it relates. |
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133 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments on the success of two jurisdictional
exchanges in Coos Bay. |
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172 |
Rep. Backlund |
References Tindall’s earlier testimony and asks for
clarification of his statement that if HB 3510 passes it would make a
transfer more difficult. |
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176 |
Tindall |
Clarifies earlier comments regarding modernization
projects; it will not change the current process for jurisdictional
transfers. Adds that this bill only
addresses modernization projects. |
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182 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks if the Coos Bay projects could have been done
if this bill had been in place. |
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Tindall |
Responds that the Coos Bay projects could have gone
forward. There just would have been
more in the negotiation process in terms of when the city took the road,
whether it was before or after ODOT gave them the money. |
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195 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks Tindall if ODOT’s policy has been to get city
streets out of its inventory and concentrate on traffic going longer
distances. |
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Tindall |
Responds affirmatively. |
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203 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if that is what this is about. |
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Tindall |
Responds affirmatively and states it is a tool that
perhaps they have not used as well as they could have in the past. They are hoping to work with AOC and LOC
to make sure it works better to get the mission accomplished and make sure we
have a true state highway system. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Asks what operational difference it would make for
ODOT if this bill were to pass. |
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215 |
Tindall |
Responds that doing a jurisdictional transfer as
part of a modernization project will become more difficult. It would not change other operational
aspects. It would be more difficult
because it says they cannot condition a jurisdictional transfer as part of a
modernization project. ODOT reads
that to say they cannot put it into the agreement that results in the
modernization project. |
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234 |
Bill Penhollow |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in support of HB 3510. States that ODOT, cities, and counties are
faced with a lack of resources. At
the county level, they have about $1 for every $4 in needs. The county road system is currently 27,000
miles. The city system is 9,600
miles. The state road system is about
75,000 including many miles of interstate.
The issue is trying to maintain the total system. When there is an issue of jurisdictional
transfer, the jurisdictions should come together to see if they can work out
an arrangement to make the transfer and not try to hand off roads that are in
major need of improvement to another jurisdiction. |
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262 |
Penhollow |
Explains the current statute that says a city and a
county must agree on a transfer, and that has been the practice of the State
of Oregon over the years. It has only
been recently that this kind of approach has become more common because ODOT
is faced with the problem of what to do with the district highways. The cities and counties are unable to
assume the maintenance in the condition the roads are in. |
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256 |
Linda Ludwig |
League of Oregon Cities (LOC). Concurs with testimony by Penhollow in
support of the bill. They believe
these jurisdictional transfer cases are important to be discussed and decided
upon on a case-by-case basis. States
they would disagree with the interpretation that the language in the bill
would preclude that happening for modernization projects. |
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288 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on HB 3510. |
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HB 3510
– WORK SESSION |
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291 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB 3510 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Comments that it looks like there were some problems
between Josephine County and Grants Pass and ODOT. States she is not disagreeing with the problems the cities and
counties are having with money, but there are problems at the state level
with funding and there needs to be cooperation by everyone. States she is opposed to making a major
policy change such as this. |
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321 |
Rep. Verger |
Announces that she will support this legislation
with some reservation. States that
solutions should not be arbitrary and capricious. |
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340 |
Rep. Flores |
Acknowledges testimony by Rep. Anderson and the
funding problems at the local levels and states that she will support the
bill. |
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356 |
Rep. Backlund |
Comments it seems that if the bill prohibited ODOT
from requiring another jurisdiction to assume responsibility we would have
one thing to consider, but it does not prohibit an agreement between ODOT and
local governments. The bill is
reasonable because there are possibilities for agreements. States he can acknowledge there will most
likely be more negotiations, but they would not be impossible to
complete. Believes this is a
reasonable answer. |
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373 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments on a seemingly clumsy method of interaction
between ODOT, cities, and counties, and states that he understands this bill
is not to prevent the jurisdictions and ODOT from agreeing to do a
jurisdictional transfer in a modernization project, and if ODOT wanted to
insist on a transfer as part of a modernization project, it would be couched
in different terms. States he
believes city streets should be maintained by the city. Adds that he does not believe the bill
will address the problem that has been addressed and believes the issue
should be taken up by the interim transportation committee to deal with the
overall problem. |
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429 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments that under Section 2 of the bill,
agreements are allowed even on the highway modernization projects. The bill is recognition there have been
cases where ODOT has used a heavy hand in trying to exert some influence on
certain cities and counties in ways that are a cost shift, and that he will
be an aye vote. |
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TAPE 124,
B |
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007 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments that he has been reminded that the bill has
been through the committee process he had advocated for, that his concern has
been dealt with in detail, and that he will vote for the bill. |
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017 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
States that she did not realize the bill had gone
through the substantive committee, and she will be a yes, also. |
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020 |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 (See Tape 125 at 196) AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. ANDERSON will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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026 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 3510 and opens a
public hearing on SB 911 B. |
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SB 911
B – PUBLIC HEARING |
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031 |
Linda Swearinger |
League of Oregon Cities (LOC). Introduces Bob Cortright, Department of
Land Conservation and Development (DLCD), and testifies in support of SB 911
B. Explains that SB 911 was
originally HB 3213, which passed the House, and has been brought back. Explains that since passage of HB 3213 in
the House they have been able to work out a compromise to gain the support of
DLCD. |
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039 |
Swearinger |
Explains provisions of SB 911 B. States that in an effort to move the bill,
they agreed to have it applicable only to Eastern Oregon, and that the
committee will hear testimony to include Southern Oregon, which would be an
unfriendly amendment. States they
agree with the amendment that will be offered by AOC which says counties have
the right to be more restrictive than state late, but they have a concern
about the timing this late in session.
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096 |
Bob Cortright |
Department of Land Conservation and Development
(DLCD). Comments that Swearinger has
done an excellent job of summarizing the process the bill has been
through. Explains that the
experiences in Deschutes County would be used as the benchmark for how
destination resorts are handled in the state. They are satisfied that the changes that are made continue to
achieve the broad policy objective of getting destination resorts without
undermining the protections that DLCD is interested in retaining. |
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113 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in support of SB 911 B with the
SB 911-B8 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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122 |
Schlack |
Explains SB 911-B8 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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162 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks if local government can now set more
restrictive standards. |
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Schlack |
Responds that he believes it is sometimes unclear
whether they have that ability and under what circumstances; the SB 911-B8 amendments
clarify that. |
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170 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks if Deschutes County has had litigation. |
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Schlack |
Responds that he does not know. |
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Chair Doyle |
Asks if Schlack sees this legislation not allowing
local governments to charge a reasonable fee for the maps. |
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179 |
Schlack |
Responds he believes it is unclear because it says
they must process it within the set times and removes the periodic review. |
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184 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks if AOC opposes the bill without the amendments. |
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Schlack |
Responds he would be more comfortable with the
amendments. Believes questions raised
by county counsel should be addressed to prevent litigation in the future. |
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182 |
Martha Pagel |
Attorney, representing clients interested in
destination resort development in Jackson County. States that timing is everything and their timing is lousy on
this bill and it is late for them to enter the process. They support the concepts in the bill and
the bill. The changes are useful to
all resorts without being detrimental to the land use system. If they can figure out another vehicle
this session, they will be back next session to talk about Jackson County. |
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238 |
Carrie MacLaren |
Staff Attorney, 1,000 Friends of Oregon. Testifies in opposition to SB 911 B (EXHIBIT E) and in opposition to the
SB 911-B8 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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323 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks what the definition is of “Eastern Oregon.” |
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MacLaren |
Explains where the dividing line is for Eastern/Western
Oregon. |
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333 |
Rep. Barnhart |
States that one of the arguments MacLaren uses to
say these are more residential than resorts is the reduction from 45 to 38
weeks the unit must be available for rental.
Asks if there are residents who only stay in their house 14 weeks a
year. |
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MacLaren |
Explains the requirements for rentals to qualify for
a destination resort. They do have
substantial concerns under current law that it could be abused to allow
residential development by increasing the amount of allowed residential
development; people could use this as a loophole to build residential
subdivisions in areas they are not planned for. |
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368 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if a builder can build and sell two houses for
residences and one for a rental unit and qualify as a destination resort. |
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MacLaren |
Responds affirmatively and comments on a case in
Douglas County that has been remanded back to the county on a number of
issues. |
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402 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Sun River is a destination resort. |
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MacLaren |
Responds that Sun River is not, and explains the
reason Sun River was developed. |
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303 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks whether it matters if one or eight families own
a home. |
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MacLaren |
Explains the assumptions of what a destination
resort would be when the law was enacted. |
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452 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if there are any developments that depend on
this bill. |
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MacLaren |
Responds that she is not ware of any. States that an application has been filed
in Crook County and it is unclear whether this legislation would apply to
them. |
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470 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if this bill has any relationship to the Oregon
Military Department. |
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473 |
MacLaren |
Responds that to her knowledge, it does not. |
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TAPE 125,
B |
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016 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks MacLaren to comment on Section 1(2) on high
value crop area. |
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MacLaren |
Explains high value crop area. |
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036 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if MacLaren agrees the mapping standards are
$20,000 per project. |
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MacLaren |
Responds that she has no idea of the cost to
counties. States that the mapping
process is one way destination resorts can be sited; they can also go through
the exceptions process. States that
the Abandoned Dunes destination resort has been successfully built with no
residential homes. |
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050 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks if Black Butte and Eagle Crest are destination
resorts. |
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MacLaren |
Comments on status of areas. |
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079 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks how MacLaren would fix the law. |
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MacLaren |
Comments on 1,000 Friends’ suggestions. |
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108 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the hearing and opens a work session on SB
911 B. |
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SB 911
B – WORK SESSION |
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110 |
Chair Doyle |
Comments he does not believe the SB 911 B8 amendment
(EXHIBIT D) would be necessary and
given the timing in the session he would like to go forward with the bill as
is, with the provision that if things don’t happen as expected tomorrow, the
committee can bring the bill back to committee, make the changes, and send it
back to the Senate for concurrence. |
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135 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Comments she agrees with Chair Doyle but does wish
the amendments would be incorporated.
Comments on cost to the county.
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147 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 911 B to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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151 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Comments on her support for destination resorts. |
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161 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments on his support for destination resorts and
states they can end up being a game of leap frog which land use planning is
intended to avoid and this bill does not seem to get us there.. |
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174 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments she agrees with Rep. Barnhart. States she fears this opens a gate. |
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180 |
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VOTE:
4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Flores, Monnes Anderson, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Verger EXCUSED: 1 - Close |
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. MONNES ANDERSON will lead
discussion on the floor. |
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189 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 911 B. |
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HB 3510
– WORK SESSION |
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190 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains that Rep. Monnes Anderson wants to change
her vote on HB 3510. |
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192 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. MONNES ANDERSON to CHANGE vote from AYE to NAY on
the motion to send HB 3510 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
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Chair Doyle |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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197 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
VOTES NO |
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198 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Explains that she has changed her vote because it
has been brought to her attention that there may be a $200,000 fiscal impact,
and that when the Transportation Committee considered the bill, the
assumption was that it would go to Ways and Means and die. |
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206 |
Chair Doyle |
Opens a public hearing on SB 920 A. |
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SB 920 A–
PUBLIC HEARING |
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211 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains that SB 920 A has been put together by a
work group. |
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221 |
Linda Ludwick |
League of Oregon Cities. Explains that the original bill, SB 929, stalled in a Senate
committee and that the legislation is now in SB 920 A. Explains the work group activities and SB
920 A (EXHIBIT F). |
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296 |
Jon Chandler |
Oregon Building Industry Association (OBIA). Comments on working with the work group
and purpose of periodic review.
States that periodic review is a good idea but has not helped
anyone. OBIA thinks SB 920 A is a
good bill; it is simply procedural on how DLCD gets through their process in
a timely fashion, particularly in light of the budget cuts. |
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SB 911
B – WORK SESSION |
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306 |
REP.
BARNHART |
SERVES
NOTICE OF A POSSIBLE MINORITY REPORT ON SB 911 B. |
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SB 920 A–
PUBLIC HEARING |
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327 |
Nan Evans |
Interim Director, Department of Land Conservation
& Development. Comments that SB
920 A is a good bill that resulted from a good process. Explains there are reasons why the “lump” in
the system exists. Some are reasons
at the local levels having to do with resources, staffing, and the nature of
the issues that local jurisdictions have to deal with. Some reasons at the state level are
priorities, workload, and budget. This
bill will move the workload through their department faster. States there is no fiscal statement on the
bill because they believe they have adequate funding in their grant program
to pay the costs of local governments during years three and four of the
bill. |
|
386 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments that it is awful to see what the small
cities have to go through without funding and then being put in periodic
review. Asks why this change has
taken so long. |
|
|
Evans |
Responds there are a multitude of complex
reasons. Comments on issues in the
local jurisdictions. |
|
441 |
Rep. Verger |
Thanks Evans for the money for the Coastal programs. |
|
442 |
Chair Doyle |
Notes that the committee has the Legislative Fiscal Statement
on SB 920 A (EXHIBIT G) that
recognizes that as the backlog gets resolved DLCD may be able to reprioritize
existing resources, and that “DLCD believes it will be able to absorb the
work created by that committee if other work decreases as a result of this
bill.” Asks if that is still the
position of the department. |
|
455 |
Evans |
Responds that it is still her hope. |
|
460 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on SB 920 A. |
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SB 920
A – WORK SESSION |
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463 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 920 A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Reps. Close, Monnes Anderson |
|
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. |
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REP. DOYLE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
475 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 920 A. |
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TAPE 126,
A |
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|
001 |
Chair Doyle |
Opens a public hearing on SB 934. |
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SB 934
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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008 |
Cindy Robert |
American Institute of Architects. Explains this bill is a combination of two
bills that unanimously passed the Senate, SB 209 and SB 210, and died in a
House committee. SB 934 encompasses
both bills and amendments to SB 210 that were agreed upon by everyone. |
|
033 |
Carol Halford |
Administrator, Board of Architect Examiners. Testifies in support of SB 934 (EXHIBIT H). |
|
052 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks what the amendment was to SB 210. |
|
|
Robert |
Explains that the amendment was on qualifications
for being an architect. |
|
073 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session
on SB 934. |
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SB 934
– WORK SESSION |
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074 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 934 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
|
078 |
|
VOTE:
6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Close |
|
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Chair Doyle |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BACKLUND will lead discussion on
the floor. |
|
083 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 934 and adjourns the
meeting at 5:47 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A – Introduction of Speaker-approved
committee bill, letter request and LC 3739, staff, 6 pp
B
– HB 3510, prepared statement, Doug Tindall, 1 p
C
– HB 3510, prepared statement, Rep. Anderson, 3 pp
D
– SB 911, SB 911-B8 amendments, Art Schlack, 1 p
E
– SB 911, prepared statement, Carrie MacLaren, 3 pp
F
– SB 920, prepared statement, Linda Ludwick, 1 p
G
– SB 920, Legislative Fiscal Statement, staff, 1 p
H
– SB 934, prepared statement, Carol Halford, 2 pp