HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
August 25, 2003 Hearing Room E
3:00 PM Tapes 141 - 143
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Vice Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy L. Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Committee Administrator
Sandy Thiele-Circa, Administrator
Rick Berkobien, Administrator
Ray Kelly, Administrator
Janet Adkins, Administrator
Annetta Mullins, Committee Assistant
David Peffley. Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
2523 A – Work Session
SB 946 – Work Session
SB 938 A – Work Session
SB 332 A – Work session
SB 763 – Work Session
SB 915 A – Work Session
SB 538 A – Work Session
HB 2502 – Work Session
SCR 9 – Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
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please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 141,
A |
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004 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:49 p.m., announces the
order in which agenda items will be considered, and opens a work session on
SB 938. |
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SB 938 A
– WORK SESSION |
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030 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 938 and opens a work
session on HB 2523 A. |
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HB 2523
A – WORK SESSION |
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040 |
Sandy Thiele-Cirka |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 2523 A. |
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047 |
Bill Linden |
Deschutes County.
Submits (EXHIBIT A) and explains
the background and history of HB 2523 A.
Asserts that the general fund would be held harmless or even benefit
from the collection process. Adds that HB 2523 A will provide an effective
judicial forum for minor infractions. |
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080 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if the County Commissioners are in favor of
this legislation. |
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084 |
Linden |
Confirms that they are and that the Commissioners sponsored
the bill and favor the courts in order to expedite the legal process. |
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090 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks the Oregon Judicial Department’s opinion of the
bill. |
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092 |
Linden |
Replies that the Circuit Court in Deschutes County
is not opposed to the measure, however notes that the Judicial Department
testified against the bill in the House Judicial Committee. |
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095 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks why the Judicial Department opposed the bill. |
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096 |
Linden |
States that the Department expressed concerns about
the revenue impact. |
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104 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB 2523A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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107 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
States that she will initially be a nay vote pending
the receipt of more information from the opponents of the bill, although
notes that she may change her vote later. |
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113 |
Rep. Flores |
Indicates her support for HB 2523 A, enabling local
entities searching for local solutions. |
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121 |
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VOTE: 4-1 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Doyle NAY: 1 - Monnes Anderson EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Verger |
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122 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. DOYLE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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124 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 2523 A and opens a
work session on SB 946. |
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SB 946
– WORK SESSION |
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124 |
Sen. Ben Westlund |
SD 27. Explains
SB 946 and testifies in support, as it will correct an inconsistency in the
graduated drivers’ license provision passed in the 70th Legislative
Assembly. Explains the current
driving permit system and how this bill would correct the problem. |
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171 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 946 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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179 |
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VOTE: 5-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Verger |
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181 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
FLORES will lead discussion on the floor. |
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183 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 946 and opens a work
session on SB 938. |
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SB 938 A
– WORK SESSION |
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190 |
John Powell |
AT and T Wireless.
References HB 2785, similar to the current bill. Summarizes SB 938 A and
urges passage. States that there is
no known opposition. |
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227 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 938A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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242 |
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VOTE: 6-1 AYE: 6 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Monnes Anderson, Verger, Doyle NAY: 1 - Barnhart |
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244 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. CLOSE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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253 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 938 A and opens a work
session on SB 332 A. |
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SB 332 A
– WORK SESSION |
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260 |
Bill Perry |
Oregon Restaurant Association. Testifies in support of SB 332 A and
addresses the effects of the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT B), which define full employment with regard to minimum
wage indexing. |
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315 |
Rep. Verger |
Expresses concern about overturning the will of the
voters. |
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323 |
Perry |
Concurs with Rep. Verger, but asserts that this bill
will be an effective index for the future.
Asserts that this bill will be especially important during times of
high unemployment. |
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378 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks Perry how many months in the past several years
the calculation would have resulted in an increase in the minimum wage. |
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384 |
Perry |
States that he doesn’t have those figures with him. Cites Measure 36, voted on in 1996, and
the three-tier increase. Notes that
we have been over the national rate most months. |
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416 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks about vote percentages from the past election. |
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418 |
Perry |
Acknowledges that the initiative did pass, which
provided for a $.40 increase, not an indexing increase. Replies that he thinks the percentage was
approximately 51-49%. |
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433 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks whether the indexing was included on the ballot
measure during the past election. |
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440 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 332A-4 amendments dated 8/22/03. |
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443 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asserts that there is no evidence of a correlation
between minimum wage rates and job loss.
Notes that adjusted for inflation, the minimum wage is still lower
than when it was originally instituted.
Announces his opposition to SB 332 A. |
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030 |
Rep Close |
States that businesses shy away from relocating in
Oregon due to minimum-wage indexing.
Postulates that with low-wage foreign labor, businesses will choose to
locate overseas in order to pay lower labor costs. |
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046 |
Rep. Verger |
Agrees that the world economy does make for
difficult policy. Once again
expresses concern about overturning the will of the voters and notes that she
will vote nay. |
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059 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
States that she will be an aye vote due to concerns
about costs to small businesses. |
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072 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Monnes Anderson, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Verger |
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074 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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076 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 332A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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081 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Monnes Anderson, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Verger |
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083 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. CLOSE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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086 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 332 A and opens a work
session on SB 763 A. |
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SB 763 A
– WORK SESSION |
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090 |
Sen. Bruce Starr |
SD 15. Gives
overview to the effects of SB 763 A, relating to the 20-year land supply and
testifies in support of the legislation.
Notes Metro’s role in the Urban Growth Boundary expansion
process. Announces the –A8 amendments
(EXHIBIT C) and announces the
support of the homebuilders and the realtors as well as Metro. |
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138 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks about the implications of the –A8 amendments. |
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140 |
Jon Chandler |
Legislative Advocates; Oregon Building Industry
Association (OBIA). Clarifies the
effects of the -A8 amendments. |
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168 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for a clarification on inventory regarding the
20-year supply. |
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173 |
Chandler |
Affirms that it is a 20-year land inventory. |
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174 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if this case is better suited to administrative
rule than to statute. |
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177 |
Chandler |
Details why it is important to put this rule into
statute. |
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193 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Metro and 1000 Friends are opposed to the
bill. |
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197 |
Chandler |
States that he believes the aforementioned groups
find the bill acceptable. |
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201 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 763A-8 amendments dated
8/12/03. |
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203 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
States that she will be a nay vote in committee, but
that before the floor vote, she will need to consult various sources in order
to make her final decision. |
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208 |
Rep. Verger |
States that despite concerns about putting this bill
into statute, she finds this bill to be balanced and fair and will vote aye
on the legislation. |
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213 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
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221 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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223 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 763A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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230 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
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232 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
BACKLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
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235 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 763 A and opens a work
session on SB 915 A. |
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SB 915 A – WORK
SESSION |
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236 |
Rep. Dalto |
HD 21.
Submits three amendments, the
–A7 amendments (EXHIBIT D), which provide a
technical fix, the -A8 (EXHIBIT E)
and the -A9 amendments (EXHIBIT F). Conveys that this legislation would allow
public safety facilities to be built in Exclusive Farm Use (EFU) zones,
allowing public safety to be considered as a conditional use. States his preference for the –A9
amendments. |
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267 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for clarification on the current restrictions
in EFU buffer zones. |
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271 |
Rep. Dalto |
Notes that presently such facilities can not be
built within the buffer zones. |
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275 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks how this bill is different from a similar bill,
HB 3561. |
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276 |
Rep. Dalto |
States the difference in the two bills. |
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281 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks Oregon Farm Bureau’s (OFB) opinion on SB 915. |
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282 |
Rep. Dalto |
Replies that OFB would like to see a buffer zone. |
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291 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 915A-9 amendments dated
8/25/03. |
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295 |
Rep. Verger |
States that she will be a nay vote in committee, but
may change her mind for the floor vote. |
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298 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for clarification on the effects of the –A9
amendments. |
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314 |
Rep. Dalto |
Explains the changes in the buffer zone. |
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322 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks which amendments Rep. Dalto supports. |
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324 |
Rep. Dalto |
Confirms that he would like to see the passage of
the –A9 amendments, which remove all buffer zone language. |
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336 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses concern that all stakeholders have not
been able to represent their opinions, thus she will be a nay vote. |
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341 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks the impact of the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
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345 |
Chair Doyle |
States that the -2 amendments will be discussed
after the –A9 amendments. |
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351 |
Rep. Flores |
States that she’d also like to hear more discussion
on the issue, but affirms that she will provide a courtesy aye vote. |
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356 |
Rep. Backlund |
Concurs with Rep. Flores and will also provide a
courtesy aye vote. |
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363 |
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VOTE: 4-3 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Doyle NAY: 3 - Barnhart, Monnes
Anderson, Verger |
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371 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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382 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Addresses the effects of the -2 amendments, which
was brought about by a constituent’s concerns.. |
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404 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for a clarification on the effects of moving
the statutes. |
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407 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Clarifies the matter further, and notes that they
would allow for greater regulation. |
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424 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks what concern prompted Rep. Prozanski’s
constituent to seek this change in statute. |
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428 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Explains that noise factors influenced the proposed
legislation. |
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TAPE 141,
B |
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005 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces that he has received word from Legislative
Council that the -2 amendments do not relate to the A-engrossed version of
the bill and that the amendment will need to be redrafted. |
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014 |
Rep. Prozanski |
States that he will investigate. |
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021 |
Chair Doyle |
Delays action on the bill, recessing the work
session on SB 915 and opens a work session on SB 538 A. |
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SB 538
A – WORK SESSION |
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029 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces that there will be a host of amendments to
consider regarding the A-engrossed version of the bill. Addresses the -A24 amendments (EXHIBIT H), submitted by the Chair, as the centerpiece of the
legislation. Also introduces the
–A25 amendments (EXHIBIT I),
submitted by Rep. Barnhart, similar to the -24, except that the –A25 includes
Douglas County. Mentions that the
aggregate industry prefers the -25 amendments and OFB prefers the –A25
amendments. Also introduces the –A12 (EXHIBIT J), the -A13 (EXHIBIT K), the -A20 (EXHIBIT L), and the –A23 amendments (EXHIBIT M). |
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075 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Concurs with Chair Doyle’s assessment on the
difference with the amendments.
Addresses the aggregate issue and notes the compromise which was
reached as part of this bill. Also
addresses soil classification. Recommends
adoption of the –A25 amendments (EXHIBIT
I). |
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112 |
Chair Doyle |
Explains his rationale for wanting to move the –A24
amendments (EXHIBIT H), citing the
Beaver State case. |
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134 |
Rep. Backlund |
Addresses the compromise and asks who came together
for compromise on the –A24 amendments. |
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137 |
Chair Doyle |
Speaks to the governor’s desire for compromise,
which prompted the –A24 amendments. Addresses the interests of the aggregate
community as well as those of OFB. |
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144 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538A-24 amendments dated
8/25/03. |
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151 |
Rep. Verger |
Expresses concern with the legislature overturning
the legal process and thus will oppose the –A24 amendments. |
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173 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
References the farmers’ concerns with regard to the
gravel pits and will be a nay vote. |
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218 |
Rep.
Barnhart |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538A-25 amendments dated
8/25/03. |
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222 |
Chair Doyle |
Clarifies that the motion to move the –A25 amendments
supercede the motion to move the –A24 amendments. |
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225 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Addresses the motion and the importance of the -A25 for
the farmer. Addresses the compromise
reached on the amendment and how it was arrived at. Urges an aye vote on the amendments. |
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237 |
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VOTE on
the –A25 amendments: 3-4 AYE: 3 - Barnhart, Monnes
Anderson, Verger NAY: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Doyle |
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242 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
FAILS. |
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251 |
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VOTE on
the –A24 amendments: 4-3 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Doyle NAY: 3 - Barnhart, Monnes
Anderson, Verger |
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254 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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260 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces that the –A20 amendments (EXHIBIT L) will be addressed next. |
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269 |
Ross Day |
Oregonians In Action (OIA). Addresses the –A20 amendments, which are
of the gut and stuff variety and came about as a compromise between OIA and
the Department of Land Conservation and Development (DCLD). |
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301 |
Jon Chandler |
Legislative Advocates. Testifies in favor of the –A20 amendments. Refers to the exceptions process as it
relates to land use planning. States
that the amendments are the same as HB 2860 which passed the House and
stalled in the Senate. |
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334 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for clarification that nothing changes in the
exceptions process except for the golf course provisions. |
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337 |
Day |
Affirms that is correct. |
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338 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks who is served by the golf course facilities
provisions. |
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344 |
Day |
States that it depends on the definition of playing
golf and notes allowances. |
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352 |
Chair Doyle |
Notes that the language seems to address those
patronizing to the course. |
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358 |
Day |
References HB 3247. |
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359 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if DLCD and the environmental groups find the –A20 amendments
acceptable. |
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368 |
Chandler |
Affirms that 1000 Friends find the amendments
acceptable. |
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370 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538-A20 amendments dated
8/23/03. |
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372 |
Chair Doyle |
Notes that even though the –A20 amendments are gut
and stuff amendments, the elimination of the original bill was accomplished
by the –A24 amendments adopted earlier.
Affirms the intention to combine the –A24 amendments with the –A20
amendments. |
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386 |
Rep. Barnhart |
States a preference for the amendments “as is.” |
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390 |
Chair
Doyle |
VOTE: 6-1 AYE: 6 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Monnes Anderson, Verger, Doyle NAY: 1 - Barnhart |
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393 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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397 |
Chair Doyle |
Introduces the –A12 amendments (EXHIBIT J). |
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404 |
Richard Kosesan |
Water For Life.
Addresses the –A12 amendments in order to attach the former HB 3297 which
also stalled in the Senate, dealing with structures on waterways. |
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430 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for clarification on the existing Coos Bay
structures and why an easement or permit release is needed. |
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441 |
Kosesan |
States that the amendment would grandfather existing
structures and avoid future additional permitting processes. |
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004 |
Rep. Verger |
Refers to new structures in navigable waterways and
asks the cost to erect any kind of structure. |
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011 |
Kosesan |
States uncertainty.
Restates the intent of the bill to grandfather existing structures. |
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015 |
Rep. Verger |
Notes the effect on Front Street in Coos Bay and
thus announces support for the amendments. |
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022 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks how the –A12 amendments grandfather in existing
structures. |
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026 |
Kosesan |
Clarifies the permit process. |
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032 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Notes that Rep. Close has pointed out that Line 13
answers his question. |
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035 |
Rep. Close |
Points out Line 19, dealing with existing
structures. |
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038 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538A-12 amendments dated
7/21/03. |
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040 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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042 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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043 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces the -A13 amendments (EXHIBIT K), brought forth by the Farm Bureau. |
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047 |
Don Schellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau (OFB). Addresses the –A13 amendments, in order to meet the concerns of
Hood River Wineries to allow for a five-acre site and allow Hood River and
Wasco County to work together. |
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080 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks where wine growers stand on the amendments. |
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081 |
Schellenberg |
Replies that the winegrowers do not oppose the bill. |
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084 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538A-13 amendments dated
8/6/03. |
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086 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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087 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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088 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces the –A23 amendments (EXHIBIT M). |
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091 |
Schellenberg |
Addresses the –A23 amendments, addressing the
definition of “preparation.” Addresses
the grass seed industry and their ability to clean, treat, sort, and package
grass seed products, which are presently not accepted practices under current
statute, which refers to the said practices as “processing.” |
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118 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 538A-23 amendments dated
8/23/03. |
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123 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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124 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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128 |
Chair Doyle |
Recesses the meeting at 5:24. |
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RECESS |
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129 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting at 5:29 |
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130 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 538A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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135 |
Rep. Barnhart |
States that although there are commendable aspects
to the bill, he finds other aspects unacceptable and thus will vote nay on SB
538A. |
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138 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses concerns with the aggregate sitings on
farms and announces that she also will be a nay vote. |
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143 |
Rep. Verger |
States discomforts with not moving the -A25
amendments, due to the exception of Douglas County. Announces that she will also vote nay. |
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152 |
Ray Kelly |
Administrator.
Clarifies the motion on which amendments are being moved into SB 538A
and to the floor. |
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160 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for clarification that the original A-engrossed
bill is no longer under consideration. |
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164 |
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VOTE: 4-3 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores, Doyle NAY: 3 - Barnhart, Monnes
Anderson, Verger |
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169 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. DOYLE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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171 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Serves notice of a possible minority report. |
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173 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 538 A and opens a work
session on HB 2502. |
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HB 2502
– WORK SESSION |
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178 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces the -2 amendments to HB 2502 (EXHIBIT N). |
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181 |
Joe Schweinhart |
Association Oregon Industries (AOI). Testifies with support for HB 2502, in order to lessen Oregon’s
capital gains tax. Asserts the
capital gains tax to be detrimental to Oregon’s business growth, as it will
increase consumer spending, productivity, tax revenue, and jobs. |
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196 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks why this issue wasn’t raised in the committee
on revenue. |
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200 |
Schweinhart |
States that it was raised, but it wasn’t moved out
of committee. |
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201 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks how much the tax would be reduced by. |
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203 |
Schweinhart |
Replies that it would be reduced by one-half percent
in 2006. |
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204 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for clarification that the tax would eventually
be reduced by 4.5 %. |
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206 |
Schweinhart |
Affirms that is correct. |
|
210 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for studies that show the effect that a 4.5%
reduction has on the economy. |
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220 |
Schweinhart |
Refers to studies that affirm those effects. |
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227 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks how many dollars would be foregone if the tax
reduction went into effect. |
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230 |
Schweinhart |
Replies that he doesn’t have those figures, and
affirms that the levels would depend on the economy. Affirms that this year the effect would be
a net loss of $16 million. |
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237 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for further clarification on the figures. |
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240 |
Schweinhart |
Restates that he doesn’t have the figures handy. |
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242 |
Rep. Close |
Asks if there is a state capital gains tax in Idaho. |
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244 |
Schweinhart |
States uncertainty. |
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245 |
Rep. Close |
Asks if there is a state capital gains tax in
Washington. |
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251 |
Schweinhart |
Replies that there is not. |
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254 |
Rep. Close |
Opines that the capital gains tax is behind the
exodus of businesses from the Portland Metro area, across the river to
Washington. Asks if a capital gains
reduction has been before the state legislature before. |
|
258 |
Schweinhart |
Replies that during the past legislative session, a
bill proposing a decrease in the capital gains tax passed both houses, before
being vetoed by the governor. |
|
261 |
Rep Barnhart |
Asks about the effect of a tax cut based on the
Oregon model. |
|
269 |
Schweinhart |
Addresses beneficiaries of the capital gains tax
cut. |
|
271 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for clarification on the question. |
|
272 |
Schweinhart |
Restates that he doesn’t have the figures at hand. |
|
285 |
Rep. Verger |
Notes that reducing capital gains is an economic
stimulus and asks why it will take until 2006 to get it through. |
|
294 |
Schweinhart |
Concurs with Rep. Verger, but notes that compromise
has been necessary. |
|
314 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asks where we are in capital gains in relation to
other states. |
|
320 |
Schweinhart |
Notes that Oregon has the highest capital gains tax
because of where it kicks in. |
|
326 |
Rep. Backlund |
Addresses capital gains as it relates to business
stimulus and job creation. |
|
354 |
Schweinhart |
Concurs with Rep. Backlund. Notes a misprint on Page 4, Section 4 of
the bill. |
|
377 |
Cara Filsinger |
Committee Administrator. Clarifies the wording of the amendment as it should be. |
|
390 |
Dexter Johnson |
Legislative Council. Clarifies the timing of the capital gains reduction, noting the
phasing in of the incremental increases. |
|
404 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Recommends that Tim Nesbitt testify regarding his
work on HB 2502. |
|
406 |
Chair Doyle |
Indicates that he does not intend to hear any
additional invited testimony. |
|
411 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2502-2 amendments dated
8/25/03. |
|
416 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Acknowledges understanding the need for a lowered
capital gains tax, but asserts that the time is not right, given the
uncertain economic times, and thus will be a nay vote. |
|
440 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Notes opposition to the bill, stating that tax
restructuring needs to be seriously looked at. |
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018 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Continues speaking in opposition to HB 2502. Asserts that a middle class tax cut would
be more effective at stimulating economic growth. |
|
024 |
Rep. Verger |
Addresses the capital gains tax, believing that it
would be an economic stimulus.
Asserts that a broader restructuring is badly needed. |
|
041 |
Rep. Backlund |
Comments on small-business driving job growth. Asserts that Oregon needs to address tax
reform, including the idea of the sales tax.
States further that in the interim, a capital gains tax reduction is
even more import to encourage the economy and thus will be an aye vote. |
|
064 |
Rep. Close |
States that she sees this bill as a compromise and
will vote aye on the bill. Addresses
corporate tax collections and notes that she would like to send a stronger
message with this bill, especially in light of the fact that businesses
routinely leave Oregon for Washington due to the high capital gains tax. |
|
086 |
Rep. Flores |
Asserts that this bill is a start in addressing the
capital gains problem and thus will vote aye. |
|
093 |
Chair Doyle |
Sees this as a positive step for business and the
future and will vote aye. |
|
101 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
|
110 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
|
111 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves HB 2502 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
|
118 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
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120 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. Rep. DOYLE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
121 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Serves notice of a possible minority report. |
|
122 |
Rep. Doyle |
Closes the work session on HB 2502 and opens a work
session on SCR 9. |
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SCR 9 –
WORK SESSION |
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133 |
Chair Doyle |
Introduces the late Chuck Frederickson, who recently
passed away on July 14 at the age of 76.
Offers a background of Mr. Frederickson’s involvement in community and
state. |
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148 |
Rep. Backlund |
Concurs with Chair Doyle. Notes that Mr. Frederickson is well-deserving of this honor. |
|
158 |
Rep. Flores |
States that she has worked with Mr. Frederickson’s
wife Frances, and thus knew Chuck by proxy.
Concurs with previous sentiments. |
|
167 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SCR 9 be sent to the floor with a BE
ADOPTED recommendation. |
|
172 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
|
173 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
BACKLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
175 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SCR 9 and reopens a work
session on SB 915. |
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SB 915 A
– WORK SESSION |
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175 |
Chair Doyle |
Announces that the committee is not going to consider
Rep. Prozanski’s -2 amendments. |
|
184 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 915A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
|
186 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for clarification as to which amendment is
presently being considered. |
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|
188 |
Chair Doyle |
Confirms that Rep. Dalto’s –A9 amendments are the
amendments currently under consideration. |
|
202 |
Rep. Verger |
States that she would like to talk with constituents
before the floor vote. States that
she will vote nay in committee, but could change her vote on the floor. |
|
206 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Concurs with Rep. Verger. States that he will also be a nay. |
|
208 |
Rep. Backlund |
States that he has sentiments similar to those of
Rep. Verger, but that he will give the bill a courtesy aye vote. |
|
210 |
Rep. Close |
Announces that she will give the bill a courtesy aye
vote in committee. |
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214 |
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VOTE: 4-3 AYE: 4 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Doyle NAY: 3 - Barnhart, Monnes
Anderson, Verger |
|
219 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. DALTO
will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
223 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 915 A and recesses the
meeting at 6:06 p.m. |
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RECESS |
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225 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the hearing at 6:45 and adjourns the committee
at 6:45 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2523 A, written testimony, Bill Linden, 3 pp.
B
– SB 332 A, -A4 amendments, staff, 2 pp.
C
– SB 763 A, -A8 amendments, staff, 2 pp.
D
– SB 915 A, -A7 amendments, staff, 1 p.
E
– SB 915 A, -A8 amendments, staff, 1 p.
F
– SB 915 A, -A9 amendments, staff, 1 p.
G
– SB 915 A, -2 amendments, staff, 15 pp.
H
– SB 538 A, -A24 amendments, staff, 5 pp.
I
– SB 538 A, -A25 amendments, staff, 5 pp.
J
– SB 538 A, -A12 amendments, staff, 1 p.
K
– SB 538 A, -A13 amendments, staff, 1 p.
L
– SB 538 A, -A20 amendments, staff, 37 pp.
M
– SB 538 A, -A23 amendments, staff, 4 pp.
N
– HB 2502, -2 amendments, staff, 5 pp.