HOUSE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
August 26, 2003 Hearing Room HR E
9:00 A.M. Tapes 144
- 145
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Dan Doyle, Chair
Rep. Linda Flores, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson Vice-Chair
Rep. Vic Backlund
Rep. Phil Barnhart
Rep. Betsy Close
Rep. Joanne Verger
STAFF PRESENT: Cara
Filsinger, Committee Administrator
David Peffley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: SB
875 B – Work Session
SB 904 B – Work Session
SB 937 B – Work Session
SB 450 A – Work Session
SB 709 A – Work Session
SB 360 A – Work Session
SB 655 A – Work Session
SB 620 A – Work Session
SB 360 A – Work Session
SB 139 B – Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 144,
A |
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003 |
Chair Doyle |
Calls the meeting to order at 10:14 and opens a work
session on SB 875. |
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SB 875 B
– WORK SESSION |
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011 |
Rep. Greenlick |
HD 33.
Testifies in favor of SB 875 B.
Notes widespread support for the legislation which will allow for bulk
purchasing of prescription medication.
Also states that the bill has met the concerns of the pharmaceutical
companies. |
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068 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks if this program will work along with some of
the other programs already in place or whether it will supercede those
programs. |
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073 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Notes that the current programs will remain in place. Affirms that SB 875 B will add to those who can receive more affordable
medication. |
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081 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 875B to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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088 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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089 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
GREENLICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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091 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 875 B and opens a work
session on SB 904. |
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SB 904
B – WORK SESSION |
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095 |
Bill Taylor |
Judiciary Committee Council. Speaks on behalf of Senators Minnis,
Burdick, and Walker, in support of SB 904.
Addresses the effects of the proposed abolishment of the Dispute
Abolishment Commission. |
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133 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for clarification on the B-engrossed bill. Asks if the bill is a sunset provision |
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138 |
Taylor |
Confirms that it is a sunset provision. |
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145 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to RESCIND the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL
for SB 904 B to the committee on Ways and Means. |
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147 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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148 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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150 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 904B to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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152 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments that the bill seems very fiscally
responsible. |
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158 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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159 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
VERGER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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161 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 904 B and opens a work
session on SB 937 A. |
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The
following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public
testimony for SB 904 B. |
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Staff |
Submits (EXHIBIT
A). |
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SB 937
A – WORK SESSION |
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164 |
Marshall Coba |
American Council of Engineering Companies (ACEC) of
Oregon. Submits (EXHIBIT B) and
testifies in support of SB 937 A, clarifying the definition of an engineer. |
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185 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 937A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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191 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Refers to jurisdiction of the new board and
expresses support for the bill. |
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198 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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201 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
BARNHART will lead discussion on the floor. |
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203 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 937 A and opens a work
session on SB 450 B. |
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SB 450
B – WORK SESSION |
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207 |
Chair Doyle |
Addresses the voter’s pamphlet statement issue
raised by SB 450 B. |
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231 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for clarification on the effects of the bill. |
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239 |
Chair Doyle |
Clarifies the language in the bill. |
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242 |
John Lindback |
Director of Elections, Secretary of State’s
office. Expresses support for the
legislation to allow the Elections Division more leeway. |
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266 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB
450 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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281 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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283 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
FLORES will lead discussion on the floor. |
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285 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 450 B and opens a work
session on SB 709 A. |
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SB 709
A – WORK SESSION |
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289 |
Susan King |
Oregon Nurses Association. Addresses the –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT C) and the –A3 amendments (EXHIBIT D), and expresses support for both amendments and the
bill. |
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305 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for an explanation how a clinical nurse
specialist training compares to a nurse practitioner’s training and the
difference in the ability to write prescriptions. |
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313 |
Teresa Goodell |
Clinical nurse specialist. Explains the differences between a clinical nurse specialist
and a nurse practitioner. |
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338 |
Rep. Verger |
Expresses concern for a widening on scope. References the testimony from Dr. Rasmussen
and the credible job performed by the nurse specialists. |
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358 |
Rep. Close |
Asks about the education of the clinical nurse
specialist. |
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360 |
King |
Replies that a Master’s degree is required. |
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366 |
Rep. Close |
Asks how extensive the training in chemistry and
pharmacology is for clinical nurse specialists. |
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368 |
King |
Replies that the training is the same as that of the
nurse practitioner. |
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374 |
Chair Doyle |
Recesses the meeting for a call of the house at
10:38 a.m. |
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RECESS |
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375 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting at 10:52 and announces the
intention to remain in recess until 1:00 p.m. |
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RECESS |
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382 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the hearing at 1:12 and resumes the
hearing on SB 709 A. |
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389 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 709-A2 amendments dated
7/10/03. |
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393 |
Rep. Backlund |
Addresses the educational requirements. |
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397 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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398 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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403 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 709-A3 amendments dated
7/11/03. |
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406 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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407 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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417 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves SB 709A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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421 |
Rep. Close |
Expresses constituent concerns regarding the potential
inadequacies of nurses’ training and thus will vote nay on SB 139 A. |
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425 |
Rep. Flores |
States that she still needs to speak with
constituents and will vote nay in committee, but may change her vote on the
floor. |
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433 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Barnhart,
Monnes Anderson, Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Close, Flores |
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437 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
MONNES ANDERSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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439 |
Rep. Close |
Serves notice of a possible minority report. |
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437 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 709 A and opens a work
session on SB 360 A. |
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TAPE 145,
A |
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SB 360A
– WORK SESSION |
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011 |
Rep. Butler |
HD 60. Speaks
in favor of SB 360 A. Notes that this
legislation is a job creation bill in order to bring high-technology jobs
back to Oregon. |
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040 |
Rep. Verger |
Speaks in favor of the concept of SB 360 A. Addresses the invisible competition with
other states, noting that this bill will help us to be competitive. |
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050 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 360A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means
BE RESCINDED. |
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057 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 – Barnhart* |
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059 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
BUTLER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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060 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 360 A and opens a work
session on SB 655 A. |
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SB 655
A – WORK SESSION |
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063 |
Senator Walker |
SD 7. Addresses
the –A7 amendments (EXHIBIT E) plus
submits constituent letters (EXHIBIT
F), (EXHIBIT G), and (EXHIBIT H) in
support of the –A7 amendments to SB 655 A, relating to phone access for
domestic violence victims. |
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091 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks for clarification on why victims might lose
telephone service. |
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093 |
Sen. Walker |
Explains why that could be the case. |
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101 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments on a similar potential problem, dealing
with credit history. |
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107 |
Sen. Walker |
Illustrates the potential with a personal anecdote. |
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113 |
Rep. Backlund |
Concurs with Sen. Walker and Rep. Verger. |
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117 |
Sen. Walker |
Addresses the additional language in the –A7 amendments. |
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126 |
Chair Doyle |
Addresses that language – the second section,
dealing with the “do not call registry.” |
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132 |
Kevin Neely |
Attorney General’s office. Addresses the second section, dealing with the preemption
vis-à-vis federal law enforcement.
Notes growing support for the FCC preemption. |
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137 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 655-A7 amendments dated
8/26/03. |
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141 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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142 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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144 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 655A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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159 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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161 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
BACKLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
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165 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 655 A and opens a work
session on SB 620 A. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for
the record without public testimony for SB 655 A. |
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Cheryl Pellegrini |
Attorney-in-Charge, Department of Justice. Submits (EXHIBIT I). |
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SB 620 A
– WORK SESSION |
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172 |
Teresa Miller |
Oregon Trial Lawyers’ Association. Testifies in support of SB 620 A, relating
to workers’ compensation. Asserts no
known opposition to the bill. |
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192 |
Rep.
Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves SB 620A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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208 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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216 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. CLOSE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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221 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the hearing on SB 620 A and reopens a work
session on SB 360 A. |
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SB 360
A – WORK SESSION |
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217 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BARNHART to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on SB 360. |
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219 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members
present vote Aye. |
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220 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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221 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 360 A and recesses the
hearing at 1:31 p.m. |
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RECESS |
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222 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting at 6:11 p.m. and opens a work
session on SB 139 B. |
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SB 139
B – WORK SESSION |
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224 |
Chair Doyle |
Addresses SB 139 B regarding the voters’ pamphlet. Comments that this bill would pay for the
voters’ pamphlet. Introduces the –A7
amendments (EXHIBIT J) and the –A8
amendments (EXHIBIT K) to deal
with concerns of the Secretary of State regarding the funding of the voters’
pamphlet. Explains the implications
of the bill. |
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321 |
Chair Doyle |
Continues with the process of amending of SB 139 B
has taken, noting Rep. Shetterly’s participation as well as that of the
Secretary of State’s office, the Speaker’s office, and other concerned parties. |
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TAPE 144,
B |
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002 |
Chair Doyle |
Begins the explanation of the bill itself, noting
where the various prior bills have been inserted. Points out conflict, which was addressed and dealt with in the
–A8 amendments. |
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053 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for clarification why a section dealing with
prohibited contributions is being deleted. |
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055 |
Chair Doyle |
Replies that the Secretary of State’s office has
advised Legislative Council that the cited provision is
unconstitutional. Continues
explaining the various provisions of the bill. |
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093 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks about the inclusion of Section 50. |
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094 |
Rep. Verger |
Also expresses concern about Section 50. |
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095 |
Chair Doyle |
States that Section 50 was an amendment included by
the Chair as a result of a previous hearing on HB 2142. |
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098 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks about the removal of judicial candidates. |
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099 |
Chair Doyle |
Affirms Rep. Verger’s assumption. |
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104 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if Sections 51 and 52 were also submitted by
the Chair. |
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112 |
Chair Doyle |
Affirms that they were. Continues dissection of the bill from Page 59. Continues noting
inclusions from various interests. |
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205 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks for clarification on reporting in-kind
contributions. |
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208 |
Chair Doyle |
Clarifies the intent and continues with Sections 71
through 76. |
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245 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks where Section 77 and 78 came from. |
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248 |
Chair Doyle |
Replies that they were requested by the Secretary of
State. Concludes the overview of the
bill. |
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257 |
Ted Reutlinger |
Legislative Council. Addresses the minor changes in the –B8 amendments from the –B7 amendments. |
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269 |
Cara Filsinger |
Committee Administrator. Confirms the difference between the –B7 and the –B8 amendments. |
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283 |
Chair Doyle |
Asserts that a conceptual amendment will probably be
required. |
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291 |
Reutlinger |
Confirms that a conceptual amendment will be required
to fix Sections 77 and 78. Details the 10-15 changes required for the
conceptual amendments. |
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381 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks for a rule suspension to deal with the
conceptual amendments. |
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393 |
Rep. Verger |
Asks about incumbency and the rationale for removing
it from the voters pamphlet. |
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394 |
Chair Doyle |
Asserts that Oregon is the only stat in the union
which allows the incumbency and removing the provision would put Oregon on
par with the other states in the union. |
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403 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of considering a conceptual amendment to SB 139. |
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406 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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407 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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414 |
Filsinger |
Asks Reutlinger for the changes to the conceptual
amendments. |
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421 |
Reutlinger |
Confirms the language for the conceptual amendments. |
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441 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 139-A8 amendments dated
8/26/03 and that the measure be FURTHER AMENDED on page 67, line 24, by
replacing "effective date" after "on or after the" with
“operative date specified in Section 79” and also on page 67, line 26, page
68, line 1, line 4, line 7, line 10, line 21, line 22, line 25, line 28, and line
29; page 69, line 1, line 4, line 6, and line 9. |
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462 |
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VOTE: 7-0 |
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464 |
Chair
Doyle |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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TAPE 145,
B |
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004 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 139B to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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014 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Expresses concern about moving such a large piece of
legislation with such little time for consideration. Addresses his concerns with the
legislation, itself. |
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076 |
Chair Doyle |
Notes that the change was made that if you are there
before 8:00 p.m., the individuals involved are allowed to complete filling
out their ballot. Confirms that this
bill does not prohibit this action. |
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083 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Reaffirms his concern for clean and honest
elections. |
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100 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks Reutlinger about concerns regarding Section 16 relating
to special elections and whether this language would apply to the upcoming
September special election. |
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107 |
Reutlinger |
Explains the provisions necessary to be added into
the bill in order for it to apply in September. |
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123 |
Chair Doyle |
Asks if the committee members think this bill should
apply to the September election. |
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134 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Inquires as to whether this election has already
been paid for. |
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137 |
Chair Doyle |
Affirms that Rep. Barnhart is correct and it has
been provided for. |
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141 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses concern over shortening the time to vote. |
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159 |
Rep. Backlund |
Asserts that the current amount of time, according
to the –A8
amendments is a good compromise. |
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167 |
Chair Doyle |
Concurs that SB 139 B was a compromise, intended to
allow for at least two weekends. |
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175 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses concern that passage of this bill would
allow for only one weekend for vote by mail, due to the time required for
mailing. |
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179 |
Chair Doyle |
Cites a high percentage of people who generally hand
in their ballot on the last day. |
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181 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Also expresses concern that problems with postal
delivery could hinder people’s ability to have two weekends to return their
ballot. |
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216 |
Rep. Close |
States that the amount of time is reasonable, given
that the rest of the country has one day to vote. |
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221 |
Rep. Verger |
Comments that two weeks seems like a reasonable
amount of time. |
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224 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Reiterates concern about the mail delivery. |
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226 |
Rep. Verger |
Restates that she is comfortable with the timing. |
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228 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Notes that the chief election officer is available
for comments. |
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232 |
Chair Doyle |
States that the committee will not hear any
additional invited testimony. |
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244 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
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248 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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253 |
Rep.
Flores |
MOTION: Moves SB 139B to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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257 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Reiterates his concerns as to the fee. |
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263 |
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VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Backlund, Close, Flores,
Verger, Doyle NAY: 2 - Barnhart, Monnes Anderson |
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266 |
Chair
Doyle |
The motion
CARRIES. REP. DOYLE
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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269 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Serves notice of a possible minority report. |
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271 |
Chair Doyle |
Closes the work session on SB 139 B and recesses the
meeting at 7:14 p.m . |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for
the record without public testimony for SB 139 B.` |
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Margaret Noel |
Submits (EXHIBIT
L). |
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RECESS |
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272 |
Chair Doyle |
Reconvenes the meeting at 8:19 p.m. and adjourns the
meeting at 8:19 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 904 B, written materials, staff, 3 pp.
B
– SB 937 A, written testimony, Marshall Coba, 1 p.
C
– SB 709 A, -A2 amendments, staff, 1 p.
D
– SB 709 A, -A3 amendments, staff, 5 pp.
E
– SB 655 A, -A7 amendments, staff, 2 pp.
F
– SB 655 A, written testimony, Senator Walker, 1 p.
G
– SB 655 A, written testimony, Senator Walker, 2 pp.
H
– SB 655 A, written testimony, Senator Walker, 1 p.
I
– SB 655 A, written testimony, Cheryl Pellegrini, 3 pp.
J
– SB 139 B, -B7 amendments, staff, 69 pp.
K
– SB 139 B, -B8 amendments, staff, 69 pp.
L
– SB 139 B, written testimony, Margaret Noel, 1 p.