HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

January 22, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30am  Tapes 7 - 8

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            Work Session: HB 2035

                                                Informational meeting – Highway Division Overview

                                                Public Hearing and Work Session: HB 2265

                                                Public Hearing and Work Session: HB 2215

                       

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 7, A

005

Chair Alan Brown

Brings meeting to order at 8:32 am, and opens work session on HB 2035.

WORK SESSION: HB 2035

010

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Introduces the bill and explains the nature of the amendment.

020

Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2035-1 amendments dated 01/20/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

025

Rep. Terry Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2035 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

025

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

CHAIR BROWN will lead discussion on the floor.

045

Chair Brown

Closes work session on HB 2035 and opens informational hearing.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

050

John Rosenberger

Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT), Executive Deputy Director, Highway Division. Gives presentation outlining the state highway system (EXHIBIT A) with reference to the ODOT Official State Map (EXHIBIT B).

  • Overview of State Highway System
  • How the Highway Division is adapting to change
  • Highway Division Delivery Programs
  • Highway Division Delivery Organization
  • Highway Division Issues

220

Rep. Cliff Zauner

Asks how many years it takes to complete a road project.

225

Rosenberger

Responds that completion times are variable, but averages nationally about 5 years but can go up to 9 years.

235

Rep. Zauner

Asks if there is ability to speed up the process.

240

Rosenberger

Discusses ODOT efforts to speed up the process of highway construction. Continues with presentation, concluding with Highway Division issues.

280

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Asks Mr. Rosenberger to address the acronyms being used during the presentation, and enquires whether there is any long term planning by the Highway Division regarding technical succession and retirement.

290

Rosenberger

Acknowledges the problem of technical succession and illustrates some of the efforts ODOT is taking in addressing the issue.

310

Chair Brown

Asks whether the private sector contractors can aid the long term employment problem.

315

Rosenberger

Indicates that there are ways in which the private sector could help remedy this problem, and outlines current efforts to work with the private sector addressing the issue.

345

Chair Brown

Asks if there is any effort to keep private sector contracting work going to Oregon firms, rather than others from out-of-state.

350

Rosenberger

Responds that ODOT uses both local and out-of-state firms, but that many of the firms are multi-state firms.

360

Rep. Zauner

Asks about when TV news programs show the highway with cameras labeled ODOT, who pays for this, the state or the news program.

370

Doug Tindall

State Maintenance Engineer for ODOT, states that ODOT does not have the statutory authority to charge for the images from these cameras because it is public information; however ODOT is trying to develop a strategy where the news agencies provide a distribution center for this information instead of getting it directly from the ODOT office.

380

Rep. Zauner

Inquires whether the for mentioned ODOT highway footage could be swapped for airtime for ODOT commercials.

385

Rosenberger

Clarifies that the ODOT public service announcements are aired on donated time. Discusses the restrictions for ODOT in selling advertising.

400

Ann Crook

Oregon Department of Aviation (ODA), Director. Gives written presentation overview (EXHIBIT C) regarding the general purpose and function of the ODA.

  • Overview
  • Issues in 2003
  • Commercial Airline Service

TAPE 8, A

040

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether Ms. Crook will mention alternative methods of transportation during the presentation.

045

Crook

Answers affirmatively. Continues with presentation:

  • General Aviation Transportation

070

Chair Brown

Clarifies that the general aviation transportation operates under different regulatory structures.

075

Crook

Answers affirmatively. Continues with presentation:

  • General Aviation Transportation

085

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether there could be presentations regarding alternative forms of air transportation directly from the communities involved.

090

Chair Brown

Indicates that there might be an opportunity for such presentations.

100

Crook

Observes that some of the communities involved would appreciate the opportunity to share their experiences with alternative air service. Continues with presentation:

  • Air Cargo

105

Chair Brown

Asks whether air cargo primarily affects Portland International Airport (PDX).

110

Crook

Identifies air cargo as affecting airports all over the state, and goes on to mention that cargo is starting to become more important than passenger fares in some cases.

115

Chair Brown

Asks whether increased air cargo traffic would necessitate an increase in ground transport improvements.

120

Crook

Answers affirmatively. Continues with presentation:

  • Oregon’s Aviation Infrastructure

160

Rep. John Mabrey

Mentions constituent complaint regarding maintenance and funding for an airport located in Washington state, but owned by the city of the Dalles.

165

Crook

Identifies the situation, and outlines the efforts to co-fund and co-run the aforementioned airport.

185

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Asks about funding for the airports, and what role the jet fuel tax has in funding airports.

195

Crook

Discusses the source of funding for airports, and generally where these funds go.

230

Rep. Dingfelder

Thanks Ms. Crook for this explanation, and discusses her misperception that airports are required to be self funding.

235

Crook

Replies that Oregon airports are attempting to be self funding, but except for the larger airports, are not. Most small airports rely on federal funding for the bulk of their operation, with some subsidies coming from the state, and local sources.

245

Chair Brown

Clarifies that Aurora, Hillsboro, and Troutdale are part of a feeder system for PDX; and asks if they are whether they receive local funding.

250

Crook

Explains that Aurora, Hillsboro, and Troutdale are funded through the airport sponsor. Aurora is owned and funded by the state; Hillsboro and Troutsdale are owned and funded by the Port of Portland.

260

Chair Brown

Asks whether the state tracks any of the activities of these airports.

265

Crook

Explains that they do monitor these airports with technology pioneered by ODOT which uses acoustical counters (or tape recorders) which count the number of takeoffs and landings based on estimations.

275

Chair Brown

Asks how Aurora and Hillsboro rate overall as far as departures and arrivals.

280

Crook

Responds that Hillsboro has the highest number of takeoffs and landings in the state behind PDX, and Aurora is about 5th or 7th in the state. Goes on to explain the type of traffic these airports get.

290

Rep. Zauner

Asks how “touch-and-goes” are counted at these airports.

295

Crook

Answers that “touch and goes” are counted as both a landing and a take off. Expresses concerns for local airports receiving state vs. local funding.

320

Chair Brown

Asks whether the Aviation Department gets complaints when residential properties are developed around airports.

325

Crook

Indicates there are complaints such as this, and talks about how these complaints are handled. Continues with presentation:

  • Aviation Security
  • Airport Ownership

TAPE 7, B

010

Bill Wilkins

State Aviation Board, Chair. Gives overview of the State Aviation Board organization, giving board member qualifications, and discusses the activities and function of the board especially its efforts to revise the 20-year old policy on airport management practices.

110

Chair Brown

Commends Mr. Wilkins for the gift of his time, chairing the State Aviation Board.

115

Rep. Zauner

Asks for a brief outline of some of the changes made to the aforementioned 20-year old policy.

120

Wilkins

Discusses several changes initiated by the board regarding the outdated policy.

125

Chair Brown

Closes the informational meeting, and opens the public hearing for HB 2265.

HB 2265 – PUBLIC HEARING

135

Adkins

Committee Administrator. Describes HB 2265.

190

Bruce Warner

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D) in support of HB 2265.

205

Rep. Greenlick

Asks about the maritime pilots being one of the five areas of concern.

210

Warner

Explains the functions of the pilots and ODOT’s interests in this area.

220

Rep. Greenlick

Expresses surprise that the pilotage is at the same level as the other departments on the list.

225

Warner

Explains why the pilots are on the list.

245

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether the change expressed in the bill would affect budget and funding, or is primarily a policy statement.

250

Warner

Explains that the budgeting process is a part of the policy, however this bill is primarily a policy statement.

255

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that the positions and staff in the motor carrier division are already a part of the organization, and HB 2265 just institutionalizes the change.

260

Warner

Answers affirmatively.

265

Larry Phipps

President of Portland & Western Railroad, offers written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 2265, including an overview of the short-line rail system in Oregon.

270

Adkins

Offers a follow-up to Rep. Dingfelder’s comments, by pointing out the agency was not limited to the list before, indicating specific wording in the bill.

300

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2265, and opens work session on HB 2265.

HB 2265 – WORK SESSION

305

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves HB 2265 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

REP. GREENLICK will lead discussion on the floor.

315

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2265, and opens public hearing on HB 2215.

HB 2215 – PUBLIC HEARING

350

Kelly Taylor

Department of Transportation, offers written testimony (EXHIBIT F) in support of HB 2215.

395

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks the number of transactions per year, and about online availability DMV registration.

400

Taylor

Discusses improvements in DMV online registration.

410

Rep. Mabrey

Questions whether the bill helps alleviate the specificity currently required by the DMV.

415

Taylor

Affirms the bills intent to take the specificity out of the law.

420

Chair Brown

Asks about security concerns.

425

Taylor

Discusses the safeguards in the system.

450

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2215, and opens a work session on HB 2215.

HB 2215 – WORK SESSION

TAPE 8, B

025

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves HB 2215 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor.

035

Adkins

Discusses the fieldtrip scheduled for the committee on the next Friday.

050

Chair Brown

Closes the meeting 9:58 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Written testimony: ODOT Highway Division Overview, John Rosenberger, 28 pp.

B – ODOT Official Oregon State Map, John Rosenberger, OVERSIZED

C – Written testimony: Aviation in Oregon; an Overview of the Oregon Department of Aviation, Ann Crook, 14 pp.

D – HB 2265, written testimony, Bruce Warner, 1 p.

E – HB 2265, written testimony, Larry Phipps, 3 pp.

F – HB 2215, written testimony, Kelly Taylor, 1 p.