HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

January 27, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30 Tapes  9 - 10

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            Informational Hearing

                                               

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 9, A

005

Chair Alan Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m., and opens the informational hearing.

INFORMATIONAL HEARING

010

Martin Loring

Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT), Public Transportation Division Manager. Introduces written testimony and presentation (EXHIBIT A), overview of Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) Public Transit Division.

·         Division Overview

·         The ODOT Mission

·         Public Transportation Vision

·         Oregon Benchmarks and Performance Measurement

·         Division Programs: Governor’s Balanced Budget Recommendation (GBB)

055

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Asks how the proposed budget for 2003-2005 relates to the 2001-2003 proposed and final budget.

060

Loring

States that the 2003-2005 budget is $185,737 less than that of the previous budget. Continues with presentation:

  • Division Pograms
  • Transportation for Elderly and Disabled

o        Annual Rides (Chart)

o        Size and Condition of the ODOT-funding Fleet Serving the Elderly and Disabled (Graph).

  • General Public Transportation
  • Intercity Passenger Program
  • Transportation Demand Management
  • Public Transportation Planning
  • Major Initiatives
  • Coordination Initiative

200

Rep. Cliff Zauner

Asks about the ODOT mandate for public pupil transportation.

205

Loring

Describes the requirements for busing school children, discussing how some districts are not required to bus school children, and outlines the efforts to make the program more efficient. Continues with presentation:

  • Senate Bill 180
  • Public Transportation Choices in Oregon

260

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Asks about allocation of funds from ODOT to local native American tribes.

265

Loring

Discusses allocation of ODOT funds to local governing bodies including local tribes.

270

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that local tribes are a local governing body.

275

Loring

Answers affirmatively

277

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks whether some tribes have their own transportation systems.

280

Loring

Confirms that some tribes do operate their own transportation systems.

285

Roger Martin

Executive Director of the Oregon Transit Association, presents written testimony (EXHIBIT B) describing the function of the Oregon Transit Association and the issues and concerns facing the members of this organization.

465

Chair Brown

Asks whether any of the gas tax is used to fund public transit system.

TAPE 10, A

035

Martin

Indicates that none of the gas tax goes to fund public transit in Oregon, but discusses the history of such funding in California and Washington. Continues with presentation and concluding by thanking the committee.

085

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Notes his appreciation for public transit in Washington County.

100

Bob Russell

President of the Oregon Trucking Associations, Inc. Gives written testimony and presentation (EXHIBIT C).

  • Industry Profile

140

Chair Brown

Asks whether the figure presented, that 70 percent of all freight generated in Oregon is moved by truck, is only counting freight produced by the Oregon economy, precluding any freight trucked from other states.

145

Russell

Confirms that the mentioned figure is only counting those freight tons generated within the state and continues with presentation.

160

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether air freight is more expensive because of the convenience of the service.

165

Russell

Responds that service is an issue. Continues with presentation:

  • Highway Safety
  • Highway Use Taxes

425

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that the trucking industry would rather increase reliance on fuel taxes in place of the weight-mile tax, and asks for information regarding how this could occur.

430

Russell

Points out that the Constitutional amendment which requires delineation between light and heavy vehicles would necessitate the trucking industry to pay its level of tax regardless of the tax type.

TAPE 9, B

040

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that Mr. Russell is indicating that the administrative costs would be less when enforcing a fuel tax vs. enforcement of the current weight-mile tax.

050

Russell

References the 1999 legislative repeal of the weight-mile tax and subsequent replacement with a fuel tax.

055

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks for specific numbers regarding the conversion from a weight-mile tax to an increased fuel tax.

060

Russell

Explains that the mentioned change would reduce administrative costs for the state, as well as for the trucking industry.

065

Rep. John Mabrey

Indicates the need for more information, and asks whether the administrative cost is basically the cost of accounting and subsequent audit by the state.

070

Russell

Confirms the nature of the administration costs for the weight-mile tax.

090

Al Elkins

Director of the Oregon Tow Truck Association, discusses the costs to his members associated with the weight-mile task.

105

Chair Brown

Asks if the trucking industry maintained 36% of the costs, what diesel fuel tax increased would be required to stay at this level.

110

Russell

Elaborates on the need to keep the same tax level between the gas tax and the diesel fuel tax, explaining that increases in truck registration fees would be better at making up the difference.

120

Chair Brown

Expresses his personal preference to not raise the diesel fuel tax.

125

Rep. Zauner

Asks who would oppose the change from a weight-mile tax to increased truck registration.

130

Russell

Identifies the American Automobile Association (AAA) as being a historic opponent to the aforementioned change.

135

Rep. Zauner

Asks why the AAA would oppose this change.

140

Russell

Expresses ignorance to the motives of the AAA.

145

Elkins

Explains that one of the arguments against replacing the weight-mile tax is the concern that the trucking industry will not make back the difference with another tax.

150

D.E. Bridges

Executive Director of the Oregon Forest Products Transportation Association, relates his daughters personal experience with the toil of administering the weight-mile tax.

160

Rep. Greenlick

Asks if the weight-mile tax problem could be remedied through the use of technology.

165

Russell

Confirms that there is technology that could fix this problem, but says the costs of the relevant technology would be too high currently. Continues with presentation.

195

Rep. Terry Beyer

Asks if the trucking industry is currently attempting legislation to fix their concerns with the weight-mile tax.

200

Russell

Explains that there are currently no efforts to repeal the weight mile tax, but indicates that any such effort would be supported by his organization.

205

Chair Brown

Asks if any other states currently use a weight-mile tax.

210

Russell

Identifies New Mexico, New York, and Kentucky as still using a weight-mile tax, but remarks that each of these states have a fuel tax as well, and that their weight-mile taxes are less severe and less complicated.

215

Rep. Zauner

Asks about the link between the Amber Alert System and the trucking industry.

220

Russell

Explains the link between the Amber Alert System and the trucking industry.

230

Chair Brown

Asks about new equipment the trucking industry uses, and expresses concerns that these new trucking rigs are unable to travel on some roads in his district, and asks whether there are similar restrictions in other parts of the state.

240

Russell

Responds affirmatively, leading into his next topic: bridges. Continues with presentation:

  • Bridges
  • Conclusion

385

Rep. Mabrey

Asks why the bridge program was only discovered two years ago, when the structural problem was known about since 1955.

395

Russell

Explains that the problem was overlooked, and who ever is at fault for the bridge system has long since passed away.

415

Rep. Mabrey

Asks whether the increased weight of trucks has contributed to this problem.

TAPE 10, B

005

Russell

Confirms that weight does have an impact on bridge degradation, however indicates that the effect is negligible, compared to the other contributing factors.

040

Rep. Greenlick

Mentions the Interstate-5 corridor report, and asks if the Oregon Trucking Association had a hand in authoring the report.

045

Russell

Explains that they did not have any involvement in the mentioned report, and that they have some concerns with it.

060

Bridges

Oregon Forest Products Transportation Association, Executive Director. Provides written testimony (EXHIBIT D) explaining the history of and issues facing his association.

085

Elkins

Gives testimony regarding the issues facing his association and the tow truck industry.

100

Chair Brown

Closes the informational meeting, and opens public hearing on HB 2214.

HB 2214 – PUBLIC HEARING

110

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator, gives explanation of the bill, and introduces the proposed -1 amendments (EXHIBIT F).

140

Kelly Taylor

Offers written testimony in support of HB 2214 (EXHIBIT E).

165

Chair Brown

Asks about the emergency clause amendment.

170

Taylor

Offers the reason for, and description of, the emergency clause.

175

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing, and opens a work session on HB 2214.

HB 2214 – WORK SESSION

185

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2214-1 amendments dated 01/23/03.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Gilman

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

190

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves HB 2214 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Gilman

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

DINGFELDER will lead discussion on the floor.

195

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2214, and opens a public hearing on HB 2261.

HB 2261 – PUBLIC HEARING

200

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Gives explanation of HB 2261, and introduces the proposed -1 amendments (EXHIBIT H).

215

Taylor

Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in support of HB 2261.

260

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks what percentage of DUII’s actually install the Ignition Interlock Device (IID) outlined in HB 2261, and if there is some sort of similar device that could be applied to DUII’s involving drugs.

270

Taylor

Apologizes for not having the relevant data regarding the number of people who use the IID. She does know that all DUI’s are required to have the IID; however she does not know how many take advantage of the opportunity. Acknowledges that the IID only detects alcohol, and is not relevant in drug situations.

275

Adkins

Asks if it has to be a zero alcohol level, or something more than that.

280

Taylor

Responds that the IID does in fact require a zero alcohol level for the car to start.

285

Rep. Greenlick

Asks about the six month timeframe.

290

Taylor

Explains that after the initial license suspension is completed, there is a six month timeframe where the license is still suspended, but the individual is required to use the IID during these six months in order to receive full driving privileges.

295

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing, and opens a work session on HB 2261.

HB 2261 – WORK SESSION

305

Rep. Zauner

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2261-1 amendments dated 01/27/03.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Gilman

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

310

Rep. Zauner

MOTION:  Moves HB 2261 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Gilman

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

315

Adkins

Presents information from Troy Costales regarding DUII convictions divided by county, and discusses upcoming fieldtrip for the committee.

325

Chair Brown

Closes work session on HB 2261, and adjourns meeting at 10:15 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Written testimony: ODOT Public Transit Division Overview, Martin Loring, 19 pp.

B – Written testimony, Roger Martin, 6 pp.

C – Written testimony, Bob Russell, 7 pp.

D – Written testimony, D.E. Bridges, 1 p.

E – HB 2214, written testimony, Kelly Taylor, 1 p.

F – HB 2214, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

G – HB 2261, written testimony, Kelly Taylor, 1 p.

H – HB 2261, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.