HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

February 12, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30 a.m. Tapes  21 - 22

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:            Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2384 – Public hearing

                                                Informational meeting – Oregon Ports Overview,

                        Freight Advisory Committee Overview

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 21, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m., and opens a public hearing HB 2384.

HB 2384 – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers description of HB 2384.

025

Monty King

Oregon Independent Auto Dealers Association. Offers written testimony (EXHIBT A) in support of HB 2384.

050

King

Presents a video; Rolling Back the Miles (11/28/00, KOIN Ch 6, 11:04 p.m.), a news segment exposing an odometer rollback scheme.

080

King

Continues with testimony in support of HB 2384 with reference to (EXHIBIT B).

200

Rep. Mabrey

Mentions that he thought there was some mechanical function of the odometer which prevented, or indicated the presence of, an odometer rollback.

205

King

Explains that there are some telltales of odometer rollback, but they have minimal affect of stopping the practice.

225

Rep. Mabrey

Asks whether there is any ability to replace odometers that has a high reading.

230

King

Explains that replacement odometers are required to have the same reading as the previous odometer under Oregon law. If the odometer cannot be set to the same reading the correct reading must be filed with the Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

265

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether odometer readings are placed on license renewal.

275

King

Indicates that he is unsure, discusses when odometer readings are reported to the DMV.

290

Rep. Greenlick

Discuses proposals for mileage based insurance and mileage based taxes which require an annual odometer readings. Asks if the OIADA would support such bills.

300

King

Indicates that such a decision would need to be made by the OIADA Board of Directors, and discusses how dealers record odometer readings.

320

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the dealer featured in the news program presented earlier, was prosecuted for odometer rollback.

325

King

Recalls that the dealer in the news program was prosecuted under federal laws, but expresses his concerns for relying on those federal laws.

340

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the internet sites which purportedly have a cars entire history have the correct odometer reading.

345

King

Responds that those internet websites obtain their information from the DMV, and if the information is not reported to the DMV, the internet site will not have it. Discusses specific websites and what reports they issue.

415

Rep. Beyer

Asks how many other states track the information as proposed by HB 2384.

420

King

Observes that if Oregon passes HB 2384, it would be the first state with such a law, but indicates many other states would follow suit.

450

Rep. Greenlick

Asks if there has been a fiscal impact statement issued for HB 2384.

TAPE 22, A

035

Adkins

Explains that a fiscal impact statement has not been issued, but would be available for any upcoming work sessions on the bill.

040

King

Explains that the monetary impact should be lessened if the second section of the bill is removed, and points out the monetary impact on the consumers when they are victimized by an odometer rollback scheme.

050

Chair Brown

Thanks Mr. King for his testimony, and recognizes Ms. Taylor.

055

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT), DMV. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) regarding HB 2384.

080

Chair Brown

Asks if there is any federal requirement that the state track the odometer reading over the first 10 years.

085

Taylor

Replies affirmatively, and points out this is a requirement for all states.

087

Chair Brown

Clarifies that the fiscal impact as figured by the DMV is $288,400 dollars as expressed in Exhibit C.

090

Taylor

Explains that the number is correct and comes from the required systems changes and extra staff which would be required by the bill.

095

Darrell Fuller

Oregon Auto Dealers Association. Offers testimony against HB 2384.

150

Fuller

Suggest if the committee moves forward with the bill, that it look closely at which automobiles would be exempt from the bill.

165

Rep. Mabrey

Asks if there would be any benefit to a requirement of recording the odometer reading when a car title is renewed.

170

Fuller

Explains that any more reporting would decrease the instances of odometer rollback, but the cost-benefit must be favorable.

185

Chair Brown

Asks if the industry could build an odometer that is tamper proof.

190

Fuller

Discusses the movement to digital odometers, but expresses concern with the integrity of these systems.

200

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2384, and opens an informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

215

Ken Armstrong

Represents the Oregon Ports Group. Offers testimony and presentation outlining regarding Oregon ports and the Freight Advisory Committee (FAC).

370

Steve Kale

Oregon Department of Transportation, Planning Section. Presents the Committee with The Freight Story: A National Perspective on Enhancing Freight Transportation (EXHIBIT D).

385

Armstrong

Explains that Oregon is attempting to catch up with Washington State regarding freight programs.

405

Chair Brown

Points out the I-5 Corridor Study of the Portland/Vancouver area dealt extensively with the movement of freight.

415

Steve Kale

Explains that it is a large challenge to obtain all the relevant information.

TAPE 21, B

005

Rep. Beyer

Refers to an article in the most recent Register Guard, regarding cuts in the federal budget against ports.

010

Armstrong

Discusses federal issues regarding ports and funding.

025

Chair Brown

Explains that dredging has been an issue for quite a long time.

030

Armstrong

Agrees.

035

Keith Leavitt

Port of Portland. Offers testimony regarding the operations and function of the Port of Portland with reference to (EXHIBIT E), and (EXHIBIT G).

100

Keith Leavitt

Four areas of challenge facing the Port of Portland:

  1. Financial, moving away from the property tax, investment into the infrastructure.
  2. Maritime access, channel deepening project
  3. International air service (EXHIBIT F)
  4. Trade related infrastructure

190

Chair Brown

Clarifies that the Port of Portland is directly and indirectly responsible for about 60,000 jobs.

195

Leavitt

Indicates that the number is higher with 76,000 jobs linked to aviation, and 53,000 jobs linked to marine operations.

200

Chair Brown

Asks how long the deepening project of the Columbia River will take.

205

Leavitt

Explains that it is a two or three year construction cycle.

210

Rep. Greenlick

Mentions that the port office and two terminals are within his district, Refers to the Institute of Portland Metropolitan study of airport expansion which outlines the number of flights between Portland and Seattle and the congestion these flights cause at Portland International Airport (PDX). Asks what steps are being made to speed up and foster rail travel between Portland and Seattle.

230

Leavitt

Discusses the Port of Portland’s support of high-speed rail, but laments that the technology seems to be a few years off.

235

Rep. Greenlick

Indicates the need to get the job started, and discusses his concerns on getting light freight from Washington County to PDX.

260

Leavitt

Discusses the use of light rail to move from freight from Washington County to PDX.

270

Rep. Greenlick

Asks that the committee be presented with feasibility studies regarding this issue.

275

Leavitt

Clarifies that he was not referring to a specific feasibility study, but an analysis which was done by Tri-Met regarding the issue.

280

Rep. Mabrey

Asks about the environmental concerns regarding dredging projects, and asks about the disposal of the spoils of dredging.

300

Leavitt

Explains that there is a market for the sand produced by dredging, and discusses where and how this sand is sold, including incentives to those businesses that buy this sand rather than mine for it.

345

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether HB 2267, because it involves taxes, would take a simple majority or a 3/5 vote.

347

Leavitt

Explains that it takes a 3/5 vote.

350

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the Oregon Economic Development Commission (OEDC) is charged with promoting tourism.

355

Leavitt

Explains that tourism is a low funding priority for the OEDC. Explains that Oregon is 46th in the country for tourism investment.

370

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether Mr. Leavitt believes the OEDC is doing its job.

375

Leavitt

Discusses the operation of the OEDC.

390

Adkins

Discusses the upcoming schedule for the committee.

400

Chair Brown

Closes the informational meeting, and adjourns the meeting at 9:55 a.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2384, written testimony, Monty King, 2 pp.

B – HB 2384, written testimony, Monty King, 2 pp.

C – HB 2384, written testimony, Kelly Taylor, 1 p.

D – Informational, The Freight Story: A National Perspective on Enhancing Freight Transportation, Steve Kale, 42 pp.

E – Informational, Columbia River Shipping Channel 2003 Update, Keith Leavitt, 1 p.

F – Informational, International Air Service Retention, Keith Leavitt, 1 p.

G – Informational, Port Fast Facts, Keith Leavitt, Oversized*.

            (*On file with Committee Records)