HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

March 10, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes 45 - 46

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

MEMBER EXCUSED:

STAFF PRESENT: Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2398 – WORK SESSION

HB 2542 – WORK SESSION

HB 2428 – WORK SESSION

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
Tape 45, A
003	Chair Brown	Calls the meeting to order at 8:31 a.m., and opens a work session on HB 2398.
HB 2398 – WORK SESSION
005	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2398, and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT A) to HB 2398, and the possible need for a -2 amendment.
030	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on HB 2398, and opens a work session on HB 2542.
HB 2542 – WORK SESSION
035	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2542 and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT B) to HB 2542.
065	Kelly Taylor	Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers testimony explaining the need for the -1 amendment.
105	Adkins	Asks if Ms. Taylor knows how many people register after the 60 days.
110	Taylor	Explains that it is extremely difficult for the Department to track these transactions.
115	Adkins	Clarifies specific language in the amendment.
120	Taylor	Offers an explanation for the language in the amendment.
130	Rep. Brown	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2542-1 amendments dated 03/05/03.
135		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Brown	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
140	Rep. Beyer	MOTION: Moves HB 2542 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
145		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Brown	The motion CARRIES.
145	Rep. Greenlick	MOTION: Moves HB 2542 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.
145		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Brown	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
150	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on HB 2542, and opens a work session on HB 2428.
HB 2428 – WORK SESSION
155	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2428 and the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT C) to HB 2428.
185	Kelly Taylor	Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers testimony explaining the -2 amendment to HB 2428
235	Monty King	Oregon Independent Auto Dealers. Offers testimony in support of HB 2428.
250	Rep. Greenlick	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2428-2 amendments dated 03/07/03.
		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Brown	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
255	Rep. Greenlick	MOTION: Moves HB 2428 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means.
		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Brown	The motion CARRIES.
285	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on HB 2428, and opens an informational meeting: Innovative Finance Advisory Committee Report
INFORMATIONAL MEETING
295	Jim Whitty	Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers written overview (EXHIBIT D) of the Innovative Finance Advisory Committee, with reference to the committee’s final report: Public-Private Partnerships for Oregon Transportation Projects (EXHIBIT E).
TAPE 46, A
001	John Carter	Innovative Finance Advisory Committee, Member. Offers summary points (EXHIBIT F) to the actions and recommendations of the committee.
110	Whitty	Introduces Mr. Walsh.
115	Tom Walsh	Innovative Finance Advisory Committee (IFAC), Member. Offers testimony regarding the history and future of public-private joint ventures in Oregon.
205	Rep. Greenlick	Indicates his interest in the Airport Max, but expresses concerns for the two stops preceding the airport and the lack of investment at those stops.
215	Carter	Explains that those stops fell victim to the recent economic downturn, and discusses the general problem.
245	Rep. Greenlick	Asks if there is room for other kinds of commercial investments, and asks what other commercial investments were considered by the committee.
260	Whitty	Explains that the possibilities and varieties of public-private partnerships are vast, and the committee only looked at a few without excluding the possibility of others.
275	Carter	Further describes some of the particular pubic-private partnerships which were considered by the committee.
315	Walsh	Addresses Rep. Greenlick’s question, explaining the example of Intel regarding the Airport Max and Washington County.
360	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks Mr. Whitty whether the committee considered any private-public ability to alleviate congestion.
370	Whitty	Discusses the consideration of private-public ventures to address these problems.
405	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks whether there is a market in Oregon for toll based roadways.
420	Whitty	Explains that the IFAC was not tasked with market research, but the road user fee task force looked at previous data regarding toll funded roadways.
TAPE 45, B
020	Rep. Zauner	Refers to New Zealand’s ability to make private-public partnerships work, and asks Mr. Carter if he has any personal experience with that example.
025	Carter	Explains that he has been to New Zealand and has been involved in some of those public-private partnerships, and further discusses his experience.
060	Rep. Beyer	Asks how the private sector identifies possible public projects.
070	Whitty	Offers an explanation for how projects are chosen, defers to Mr. Carter.
075	Carter	Discusses the various ways in which the private sector becomes involved in projects.
120	Chair Brown	Asks when the private sector becomes involve in transportation improvement projects.
125	Carter	Discusses the ways in which projects are identified, including what sized projects are considered.
160	Whitty	Discusses the solicited proposals, and how those projects are considered.
185	Carter	Explains that it is important to the private sector that they see the considered projects add value.
240	Rep. Greenlick	Asks how the culture of the institution is altered to support these private-public joint projects, and come up with innovative ideas in this area.
250	Whitty	States the importance of the topic and asks if Mr. Walsh and Mr. Carter would comment on the importance of and difficulties regarding culture.
265	Walsh	Explains that lack of time is a major factor and further discusses the issue of culture.
330	Carter	Comments on what is needed to change culture in any organization, and recalls the difficulty in valuing time. Discusses the difference in culture between the private sector and the public.
TAPE 46, B
005	Rep. Mabrey	Points out the value of unsolicited proposals. Comments on the mindset it takes on both the public and private sector to come together.
025	Walsh	Comments on how the private sectors ideas are able to be incorporated by ODOT.
045	Chair Brown	Thanks the witnesses, closes the informational hearing and adjourns the meeting.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2398, -1 Amendment, Staff, 5 pp.

B – HB 2542, -1 Amendment, Staff, 2 pp.

C – HB 2428, -2 Amendment, Staff, 1 p.

D – Informational, Innovative Finance Advisory Committee Overview, Jim Whitty, 3 pp.

E – Informational, Public-Private Partnerships for Oregon Transportation Projects, Jim Whitty, 40 pp.

F – Informational, Innovative Finance Advisory Committee Summary, John Carter, 5 pp.