HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
March 12, 2003 Hearing Room 357
8:30 AM Tapes 47
- 48
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair
Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder
Rep. George Gilman
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Cliff Zauner
STAFF PRESENT: Janet
Adkins, Administrator
Ryan Sherlock, Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2571 – Public Hearing
HB 2398 – Work Session
HB 2573 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2774 – Public Hearing
HB 2993 – Public Hearing
HB 3138 – Public Hearing
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 47, A |
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003 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m., and opens a
public hearing on HB 2571. |
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HB 2571
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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005 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2571. |
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020 |
Rep. Mary Gallegos |
House District 29. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT A) in support of HB 2571. |
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055 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Thanks Rep. Gallegos for her testimony, and ask if
she received any research from the Driver and Motor Vehicle Services regarding
the revenues received from vanity license plates. |
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065 |
Rep. Gallegos |
Explains that this bill is not a fix-all, but just
another tool to use. |
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075 |
Chair Brown |
Recesses the public hearing on HB 2571, and opens a
work session on HB 2398. |
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HB 2398
– WORK SESSION |
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080 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
2398 and the proposed -3 amendments (EXHIBIT
B). |
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095 |
Chair
Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2398-3 amendments dated
03/11/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Mabrey |
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Chair |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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100 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves HB 2398 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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115 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Commends Janet Adkins for her work on the bill. |
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120 |
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VOTE:
6-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Mabrey |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. GREENLICK will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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130 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2398, and opens a
public hearing on HB 2573. |
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HB 2573
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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135 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
2573. |
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145 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Clarifies that all trailers are not required to be
registered. |
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147 |
Adkins |
Explains that registration is based on weight. |
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150 |
Steve Knebel |
Scappoose, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) in support of HB 2573. |
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200 |
Kelly Taylor |
Oregon Department of Transportation, DMV. Offers
testimony regarding HB 2573. |
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215 |
Chair Brown |
Asks how much use the antique plates can be. |
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220 |
Taylor |
Explains the difference between antique plates and
regular use plates, including where and when they can be used. |
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235 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks if any other vehicles would fall into the
category if the “motor” were eliminated from motor vehicle, as the bill would
do. |
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240 |
Taylor |
Explains that it would basically be only trailers. |
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245 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks if there would be any need to create new
plates. |
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250 |
Taylor |
Explains that there would be no need to make new
plates. |
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260 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2573, and opens a
work session on HB 2573. |
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HB 2573
– WORK SESSION |
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265 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2573 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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270 |
Adkins |
Points out the definition of an antique. |
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275 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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280 |
Rep.
Greenlick |
MOTION: Moves HB 2573 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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285 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2573, and opens a work
session on HB 2571. |
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290 |
Rep.
Mabrey |
MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. MABREY to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the MOTION: Moves HB 2398 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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295 |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion
CARRIED. |
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300 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2573, and opens a
public hearing on HB 2571. |
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HB 2571
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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315 |
Andrea Morgan |
Oregon Department of Education. Offers testimony
regarding HB 2571. |
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320 |
Mordale Dunsworth |
Oregon Department of Education. Offers testimony
regarding HB 2571. |
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325 |
Chair Brown |
Opens a public hearing on HB 2774, 2993, 3138. |
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HB 2571,
2774, 2993, 3138 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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335 |
Kelly Taylor |
Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers
testimony regarding HB 2571, 2774, 2993, 3138 with reference to (EXHIBIT D). |
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TAPE 48, A |
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045 |
Taylor |
Continues with testimony regarding HB 2571,
including the administrative and budgetary problems associated with contests. |
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230 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks how the public and dealers are notified about
new plates. |
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235 |
Taylor |
Explains how dealers and customers are notified
about and may obtain the plates, explaining that direct advertising would be
a misuse of highway money. |
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275 |
Rep. Steve March |
House District 46. Offers testimony in support of HB
2993, and asks Ms. Taylor if it is more economical to issue new plates all at
once. |
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305 |
Taylor |
Explains that there is some efficiency from
processing the new plate designs at the same time, but the process is still
substantial. |
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320 |
Rep. Zauner |
Clarifies that the startup for a new plate is
$150,000. |
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325 |
Taylor |
Acknowledges that new plates are $150,000. |
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330 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks whether any specialty plate has recovered the
cost through sales. |
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335 |
Taylor |
Explains that the new plates cost $150,000, but plates
with the group name on them cost about $4000. |
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340 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Clarifies figures on the funds being distributed. |
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345 |
Taylor |
Acknowledges that the funds in question are what have
been distributed to the group. |
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350 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Clarifies that the plate proposed by HB 3138 would
not be a new plate, but a symbol added to a plate. |
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355 |
Taylor |
Explains that as the bill is written it would
require DMV issuing an entirely new plate. Explains which groups can use
symbols and which are required to use only lettering. |
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370 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Recalls that the intent of HB 3138 was not to create
an entirely new plate. |
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375 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Points out that the language in the bill does
indicate the use of a symbol the “Star of Life.” |
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380 |
Taylor |
Explains that as the bill is written with the symbol
language it would require a new plate be issued. |
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385 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Restates that creating a new plate was not his
intent in supporting the bill. |
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390 |
Chair Brown |
Points out that Rep. March’s plate would need $100
thousand dollars which would come from the general fund. |
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395 |
Rep. March |
Explains where the $100,000 figure came from, and
where the money would need to come from. |
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TAPE 47, B |
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015 |
Chair Brown |
Invites Rep. Johnson to offer testimony regarding HB
2774. |
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020 |
Rep. Betsy Johnson |
House District 31. Offers testimony in support of HB
2774, and outlines the function and efforts of the Lewis and Clark
Bicentennial Organization. |
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065 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Ask whether there is any danger of making the
license plates difficult to do its primary duty of displaying the plate
number. |
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075 |
Rep. March |
Explains that he did not envision making an entirely
new design. |
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085 |
Rep. Johnson |
Explains that while visibility is an issue, raising
cancer awareness is also an important issue. |
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100 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks whether there could be any means to better
figure the interest in the proposed plates, to clarify the interest. |
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110 |
Rep. March |
Points out that California currently has cancer
awareness plates, and possibly those numbers could be used to figure the
interest in Oregon. |
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115 |
Taylor |
Expresses concern for using information regarding
specialty plates sales from other states. |
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130 |
Rep. Beyer |
Ask if there has been any effort to require the
organizations to pay the costs upfront. |
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135 |
Taylor |
Observes that some types of plates are required to
be funded by the group upfront; however other plates are funded through state
funds. |
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160 |
Rep. Zauner |
Refers to the groups which are supposed to pay the
costs of the plates, and asks if the state was ever paid back for these
costs. |
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165 |
Taylor |
Explains that the state paid the initial costs up
front. |
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170 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks whether a mailing could be sent out with a list
of possible specialty plates and whether people would purchase those plates. |
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175 |
Taylor |
Explains that she is unsure whether highway fund
money could be used for this purpose. |
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185 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if HB 2993 would require a new plate. |
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190 |
Taylor |
Clarifies that the plate proposed would require an
amendment to statute 805.205; however the statute would currently allow the
group to place their name on the plate without a change in statute. |
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200 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks how much it costs to just place the name on the
plate. |
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205 |
Taylor |
Guesses the cost would be around $15,000. |
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210 |
Chair Brown |
Clarifies that by just placing the name of the group
on the plate no legislation is required. |
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215 |
Taylor |
Acknowledges that placing the name could be done
under current law. |
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217 |
Chair Brown |
Points out the Lewis and Clark bicentennial is
unique and could warrant an entirely new plate, but clarifies that this would
then cost $150,000. |
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220 |
Taylor |
Acknowledges that the cost would be around $150,000. |
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225 |
Rep. Johnson |
Observes that the Lewis and Clark Bicentennial
Organization would not want to fund that amount of money upfront. |
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235 |
Chair Brown |
Asks what amount of money has been budgeted by the
state for the bicentennial activities. |
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240 |
Rep. Johnson |
Explains that the original request was $300,000 but
by the end of the special sessions the funding was $97,500. |
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260 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks whether the license plate frame could be used
to promote the Lewis and Clark Bicentennial. |
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265 |
Rep. Johnson |
Invites Rep. Zauner to pursue this possibility, and
further discusses promotion of the event. |
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290 |
Chair Brown |
Thanks the representatives for their testimony, and
explains that HB 3138’s requester is unable to be at the meeting, so it will
be held over to the next meeting. |
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295 |
Rep. Zauner |
Comments on his disinterest in seeing his bill cost
the state, so it may need an amendment. |
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300 |
Adkins |
Asks whether the sponsors require a symbol or would
be happy with wording. |
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305 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Expresses the need to meet with the requester and
rework the bill. |
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310 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks whether additional spots would need to be
created in this case. |
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315 |
Taylor |
Explains that this requires more money to create the
additional infrastructure. |
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325 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2571, 2774, 2993,
and 3138. Adjourns the meeting at 9:51 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2571, written testimony, Rep. Mary Gallegos, 1 p.
B
– HB 2398, -3 amendment, Staff, 5 pp.
C
– HB 2573, written testimony, Steve Knebel, 1 p.
D
– HB 2571, 2774, 2993, 3138, Specialty and Group Plate Information, Kelly
Taylor, 1 p.