HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

March 14, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  49 - 50

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2853 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2997 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 2747 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3138 – Public Hearing

                                               

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 49, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m., and opens a public hearing on HB 2853.

HB 2853 – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2853 and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT A).

025

Roger Martin

Oregon Transit Association, Executive Director. Offers testimony regarding HB 2853.

040

Rep. Beyer

Asks if this bill would affect any other transportation district.

045

Martin

Explains that this would only affect the one district.

055

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2853, and opens a public hearing on HB 2997.

HB 2997 – PUBLIC HEARING

060

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offer a description of HB 2997, and the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT B).

075

Cliff Olson

Oregon Petroleum Marketers Association. Offers testimony in support of HB 2997.

090

Paul Romain

Oregon Petroleum Marketers Association. Offers testimony in support of HB 2997.

110

Rep. Greenlick

Refers to an earlier discussion which indicated the taxes were collected when the fuel was pumped into the ground.

115

Adkins

Explains that the taxes on the dealers are taxed when the fuel is pumped into the ground and the consumer is taxed when the fuel goes into their automobile.

120

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that statute dictates that there are two separate times at which tax is assessed.

130

Dave Tyler

Oregon Department of Transportation, Chief Financial Officer. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) in support of HB 2997.

150

Adkins

Asks who would be exempt from this bill.

160

Tyler

Explains that truckers who have documentation showing they pay the weight-mile tax rather than the gas tax, and further comments on who is exempt.

165

Chair Brown

Discusses his experience with the card lock system.

175

Bob Russell

Oregon Trucking Association, President. Offers testimony in support of HB 2997.

195

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2997, and opens a work session on HB 2997.

HB 2997 – WORK SESSION

200

Rep. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2997-2 amendments dated 03/13/03.

205

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

210

Rep. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2997 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

215

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

220

Rep. Zauner

MOTION:  Moves HB 2997 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

225

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2997, and opens a work session on HB 2747.

HB 2747 – PUBLIC HEARING

230

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2747 with reference to the applicable federal tax code (EXHIBIT D) and relevant news articles (EXHIBITS E, F, and G).

250

Senator Ringo

Senate District 17. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) in support of HB 2747.

355

Chair Brown

Refers to his businesses use of SUV vehicles.

360

Sen. Ringo

Explains that the purpose of the bill is not to limit the legitimate use of the tax write-off, but to close the abuse of the loop-hole.

375

Rep. Dingfelder

Explains that she is a co sponsor of the bill, and points out that she did not intend to limit the legitimate use of the tax break.

TAPE 50, A

005

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether there are any statistics which would indicate a loss in sales of these vehicles due to the bill.

010

Sen. Ringo

Explains his belief that the tax loop-hole is an added incentive, and may affect the decision of purchasing a larger vehicle.

015

Rep. Mabrey

Clarifies that Sen. Ringo would be willing to hold off action on the bill to address the concerns of the Farm Bureau.

020

Sen. Ringo

Acknowledges, addressing the concerns of the Farm Bureau.

030

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether another proposed bill, which would generally disconnect the state from the federal tax code, would address this problem.

035

Sen. Ringo

Explains that he does think the problem would be addressed by the other bill, but observes that the other bill would probably not pass.

040

Chair Brown

Points out that the bill does have a subsequent referral.

045

Don Schellenberg

Oregon Farm Bureau. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 2747.

065

Chair Brown

Asks the committee if anyone has a question of Ms. Buchanan from the Department of Revenue.

070

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks if the Department of Revenue or the Division of Motor Vehicles currently tracks the types of vehicles which use this tax break.

075

Debra Buchanan

Department of Revenue. Explains that her Department does not track such information.

080

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that they could get a breakdown of which types of businesses are claiming the exemption.

085

Buchanan

Explains that the information could be obtained, discusses how the farming information could be obtained.

095

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies how Oregon tax forms would need to change to obtain the information.

105

Buchanan

Discusses what changes would be needed to discover who was using the tax break.

125

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that the proposal being discussed would be a disconnect from future changes to the federal tax code.

130

Buchanan

Explains that there is currently a proposal for a partial disconnect, and another for a complete disconnect form the federal tax code.

145

Adkins

Refers to the news articles on the subject, and asks why heavier farm trucks are not talked about.

150

Buchanan

Explains that she is unsure to how heavy farm trucks are covered.

165

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2747, and opens a public hearing on HB 3138.

HB 3138 – PUBLIC HEARING

175

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3138.

195

Victor Hoffer

Marion County. Offers testimony in support of HB 3138.

325

Rep. Greenlick

Points out that Mr. Hoffer is rather more experienced than he lets on. Discusses the prior hearing which outlined the options for non-profit organizations to obtain custom plates without legislation.

350

Hoffer

Discusses the absence of a relevant non-profit.

420

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3138, and adjourns the meeting at 9:58 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2853, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

B – HB 2997, -2 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

C – HB 2997, written testimony, Dave Tyler, 1 p.

D – HB 2747, Federal Tax Code, Staff, 6 pp.

E – HB 2747, news article, Staff, 2 pp.

F – HB 2747, news article, Staff, 2 pp.

G – HB 2747, news article, Staff, 4 pp.

H – HB 2747, written testimony, Senator Charlie Ringo, 1 p.