HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

March 17, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  51 - 52

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2393 – Work Session

                                                HB 2338 – Work Session

                                                HB 2801 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 51, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m., and opens a public hearing on HB 2393.

HB 2393 – WORK SESSION

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2393, and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT A).

040

Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2393-1 amendments dated 03/13/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

045

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves HB 2393 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

050

Rep. Beyer

Explains her intention to vote NO on HB 2393, because she does not think extra driving time is bad for young drivers, and she is uncomfortable with the possible fiscal impact.

055

Adkins

Clarifies the committee’s intent regarding the “partial month” clause.

060

Committee

Discusses their legislative intent.

070

 

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Dingfelder, Gilman, Greenlick, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown

NAY:               1 - Beyer

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BACKLUND will lead discussion on the floor.

080

Rep. Mabrey

Congratulates Matt Hobson for his work on the bill.

085

Rep. Backlund

Thanks the committee for hearing and passing the bill.

100

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2393, and opens a public hearing on HB 2801.

HB 2801 – PUBLIC HEARING

105

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2801.

145

Deb Elkins

Northwest Automotive Trades Association. Offers testimony in support of HB 2801.

165

Mark Forcum

Forster Auto Parts. Offers testimony in support of HB 2801.

270

Rep. Beyer

Clarifies that the industry is not currently doing the inspections outlined in the bill.

275

Forcum

Explains that they are not currently doing the proposed inspections and discusses those inspections.

295

Rep. Beyer

Asks about the regulation proposed in the bill dealing with storage.

300

Forcum

Explains that those regulations are proposed to help alleviate uncertainty.

310

Chair Brown

Asks whether there are federal laws restricting storage.

315

Forcum

Explains that he is unsure whether there are any federal regulations.

320

D. Elkins

Explains that in Oregon there is inconsistency regarding regulations.

330

Chair Brown

Asks if the wrecking industry has any regulations under the Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ).

335

Forcum

Discusses the lack of those regulations.

350

Rep. Mabrey

Asks what Mr. Forcum proposes for the fee.

355

Forcum

Explains that currently the fee is $150, and his group expects it would need to increase to $400 or $500.

360

D. Elkins

Explains that the $400 to $500 figure comes from preliminary talks with DMV.

370

Forcum

Discusses what he hopes to get from paying this fee.

390

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies that the wreckers currently pay fees to both the DMV and another fee to the City or County.

400

Forcum

Acknowledges.

405

Rep. Dingfelder

Clarifies where the fees go.

410

Forcum

Explains how the fees are used.

TAPE 52, A

015

Rep. Zauner

Asks if this bill would make it tougher for car thieves to sell cars.

020

Forcum

Acknowledges, and discusses how the bill would make dismantling cars illegally, more difficult.

025

Rep. Greenlick

Asks what the magnitude of the problem is.

030

Forcum

Discusses the size of the problem and the reason for the legislation.

045

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that the expectation is that those unlicensed wreckers will either become licensed or go out of business.

050

Forcum

Acknowledges, and discusses the possible outcome of the measure.

060

Chair Brown

Recesses the public hearing on HB 2801, and opens a work session on HB 2338.

HB 2338 – WORK SESSION

065

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2338, the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT B), and the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT C).

085

Rep. Greenlick

Asks if the committee is only considering the -2 amendment or should also consider the -1 amendment.

087

Adkins

Defers to Rep. Shetterly.

090

Rep. Lane Shetterly

House District 23. Offers testimony in support of the bill, and addresses the proposed amendments, indicating his support for the -2 amendment, and his lack of support for the -1 amendment.

140

Al Elkins

Oregon Hunters Association. Explains his group’s concern with the bill.

160

Rep. Shetterly

Explains that those concerns were just recently brought to his attention, and could be addressed on the Senate side if necessary.

170

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2338-2 amendments dated 02/12/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

175

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves HB 2338 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

180

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

185

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2338, and opens a public hearing on HB 2801.

HB 2801 – PUBLIC HEARING

190

Jim Tercek

John’s Auto Parts. Offers testimony in support of HB 2801.

200

Chair Brown

Clarifies that currently the wrecking industry is not regulated by the state.

205

D. Elkins

Explains that there is little regulation and illustrates that lack of regulation.

220

Chair Brown

Clarifies that the auto recycling industry does not get many visits from the DEQ.

225

Forcum

Explains that they do not get much intervention from the DEQ.

260

Rep. Dingfelder

Points out that there are currently regulations with DEQ, but due to lack of funding there is little enforcement and the enforcement that does take place is largely complaint driven. Comments on her hope that the DMV and the DEQ could work together to support enforcement.

270

Forcum

Comments on state enforcement.

300

Rep. Greenlick

Comments on his belief that more regulations would not necessarily mean more enforcement.

320

Forcum

Explains his goal to bring more unlicensed auto wreckers into legality.

335

D. Elkins

Comments on the work they have so far done with the DMV.

350

Rep. Mabrey

Asks whether the auto recycling industry ever repairs and resells vehicles.

355

Forcum

Explains that most auto recyclers are also used auto dealers, and comments on that aspect of the industry.

390

Chair Brown

Clarifies that wreckers pay $4000 for a wrecked car.

392

Forcum

Explains that this would be for 2000 and later cars.

395

Rep. Zauner

Refers to a case in Woodburn of an auto theft ring.

405

Forcum

Explains that by licensing, it would be more difficult to move these stolen cars.

415

Rep. Beyer

Asks how many licensed auto recyclers are currently operating in the state.

420

D. Elkins

Indicates there are around 375.

425

Rep. Beyer

Asks if Ms. Elkins knows how many unlicensed auto recylers are operating in the state.

430

D. Elkins

Offers an estimate that there are around thirty percent unlicensed.

TAPE 51, B

015

Adkins

Asks about the training course.

020

D. Elkins

Explains that they would hope that service would be provided by the DMV.

025

Forcum

Compares the mentioned training course to that held for auto dealers.

030

Chair Brown

Asks whether there are any amendments which are being proposed.

035

D. Elkins

Discusses the amendments.

040

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2801 and adjourns the meeting at 9:29 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2393, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

B – HB 2338, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

C – HB 2338, -2 amendment, Staff, 1 p.