HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
March 19, 2003 Hearing Room 357
8:30 AM Tapes 53
- 54
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair
Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder
Rep. George Gilman
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Cliff Zauner
STAFF PRESENT: Janet
Adkins, Administrator
Ryan Sherlock, Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 3014 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
HB 2768 – Public Hearing
HB 3001 – Public Hearing
HB 3002 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
HB 2997 – Work Session
HB 2853 – Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 53, A |
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003 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m., and opens a
public hearing on HB 3014. |
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HB 3014
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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005 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
3014. |
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0015 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Explains that he is the sponsor of the bill and
thanks the witnesses for being before the committee. |
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020 |
Keith Leavitt |
Port of Portland. Thanks Rep. Greenlick for
sponsoring the bill and introduces Ms. Jacobson. |
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025 |
Barbara Jacobson |
Port of Portland. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT A) in support of HB 3014. |
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060 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks if any party would attempt to outbid the
Scouts. |
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065 |
Jacobson |
Explains that there is little other interest in the
site. |
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070 |
Adkins |
Explains that there is a possibility that this same
issue could cause problems for other airports, but they cannot be addressed
in this bill. |
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080 |
Jacobson |
Explains that it is unique that an airport has
excess property to sell. |
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085 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3014, and opens a
work session on HB 3014. |
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HB 3014
– WORK SESSION |
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090 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves HB 3014 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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095 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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100 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB 3014 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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105 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3014, and opens a
public hearing on HB 3014. |
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HB 2768
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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110 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
2768. |
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125 |
Rep. Prozanski |
House District 8. Offers testimony in support of HB
2768. |
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175 |
Karen Frost |
Bicycle Transportation Alliance (BTA), Program
Director. Describes the purpose of the BTA, and offers testimony in support
of HB 2768 with reference to submitted written testimony (EXHIBIT B). |
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275 |
Chair Brown |
Places the public hearing on HB 2768 at ease, and
opens a public hearing on HB 3001. |
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HB 3001
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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285 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
3001. |
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315 |
Sen. Metzger |
Senate District 26. Offers testimony in support of
HB 3001. |
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350 |
Chair Brown |
Thanks Sen. Metzger for his testimony, places the
public hearing on HB 3001 at ease, and reopens the public hearing on HB 2768. |
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HB 2768
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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355 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Continues with testimony in support of HB 2768. |
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400 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Expresses his concerns regarding the safety issues
related to HB 2768. |
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TAPE 54, A |
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015 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Addresses Rep. Mabrey’s concerns explaining that
there are safety concerns for when a bicycle comes to a stop. |
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050 |
Frost |
Addresses Rep. Mabrey’s concern of children not
being able to use the proposed law change safely, explains that the BTA
currently has bicycle safety education programs for children, and further
discusses the issues of children bicycle safety. |
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085 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Expresses his concerns regarding the safety of the
bill, relating his personal experience regarding bicycle safely. Questions
the relationship between bicycles and motorists and how this bill could
complicate this relationship further. |
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115 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Points out that there will always be motorists and
bicyclists who abuse the laws and the relationship between the two groups. Further
discusses the relationship between the two groups and the laws which relate
to this relationship. |
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150 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks whether Rep. Prozanski would support, as the
state replaces stop signs, that there be added below the sign which indicated
the sign did not apply to bicycles. |
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155 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Addresses the issue of signage. |
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175 |
Rep. Zauner |
Clarifies that as the bill is currently written a
bicycle would be required to stop at traffic signals. |
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180 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Acknowledges that the bicycle would be required to
stop in this situation. |
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190 |
Rep. Beyer |
Points out that the consequences are not different
if an accident occurs at a stop or light intersection. |
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200 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Discusses the consequences and indicates his
willingness to consider amendments which would equalize the punishment. |
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210 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2768, and reopens the
public hearing on HB 3001. |
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HB 3001
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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215 |
Chair Brown |
Points out that one of the corridors at issue is in
his district. |
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230 |
Troy Costales |
Oregon Department of Transportation, Transportation
Safety Division. Offers written testimony regarding HB 3001 (EXHIBIT C). |
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260 |
Chair Brown |
Asks whether the bill would allow ODOT to open more
than two safety corridors. |
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265 |
Costales |
Explains that the bill only allows for two safety
corridors. |
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270 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks about the criteria used to choose the safety
corridors. |
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275 |
Costales |
Discusses the criteria used. |
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280 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks for a list of the most dangerous corridors in
Oregon. |
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285 |
Costales |
Discusses the ways in which ODOT chooses those
roadways which it would classify as a safety corridor. |
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310 |
Chair Brown |
Points out that with an amendment to the current
bill ODOT could create more than two safety corridors. |
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312 |
Costales |
Acknowledges, and discusses the option. |
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315 |
Adkins |
Mentions her discussion with Legislative Counsel
regarding this option. |
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320 |
Chair Brown |
Asks how the other safety corridors are chosen. |
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325 |
Costales |
Describes the process for choosing safety corridors. |
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345 |
Chair Brown |
Clarifies that Mr. Costales does not currently have
the relevant accident statistics. |
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350 |
Costales |
Indicates that he does not currently have that
information, but will obtain, and provide it to the committee in the future. |
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355 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks if there are statistics regarding, time of day,
or use of alcohol. |
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360 |
Costales |
Indicates that he will get that information to the
committee. |
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365 |
Rep. Gilman |
Asks that Mr. Costales consider a section of road in
his district. |
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365 |
Rep. Beyer |
Clarifies the bill would allow ODOT to change the
corridors any time during the sunset. |
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380 |
Costales |
Discusses the ability to change the safety
corridors, and the problem of signage. |
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385 |
Rep. Beyer |
Clarifies that they would not have to come back to
the legislature to change the corridors. |
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387 |
Costales |
Acknowledges. |
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390 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks if ODOT would like to have the authority to
designate safety corridors. |
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395 |
Costales |
Explains that, as he reads the bill, ODOT would be
allowed to designate two of the thirteen corridors. |
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400 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks, if there were an amendment allowing ODOT to
have designation privileges over all thirteen corridors, would ODOT support
it. |
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405 |
Costales |
Discusses the safety concerns that such an amendment
would address. |
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410 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if it is the committee’s wish to see such
amendments. |
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415 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Indicates that he would like to see such amendments. |
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TAPE 53, B |
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015 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3001, and opens a
public hearing on HB 3002. |
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HB 3002
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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020 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
3002. |
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055 |
Roger Martin |
Oregon Transit Association. Offers testimony in
support of HB 3002. |
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085 |
Steve Rogers |
City of Corvallis, Public Works Director. Offers
written testimony (EXHIBIT D) in
support of HB 3002. |
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160 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Asks about Mr. Rogers testimony regarding parking
exemptions. |
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165 |
Rogers |
Addresses the parking exemptions |
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175 |
Martin |
Discusses the parking issue by illustrating the
situation of parking around the capitol building. |
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195 |
Adkins |
Points out that the parking issue is on page three
of the bill. |
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200 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Questions some of the language of the bill, and
clarifies that the language is not substantive. |
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210 |
Adkins |
Explains that there is no substantive change. |
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225 |
Rep. Zauner |
Explains that during the entire last session the issue
of “may” and “shall” was discussed extensively. |
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235 |
Justin Roach |
City of Corvallis, City Councilor, Ward 4. Offers
written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in
support of HB 3002. |
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305 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks where the money would come from to fund the
cities. |
|
310 |
Martin |
Explains that the money would come from the affected
state agencies. |
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320 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks if Oregon State University would be in
opposition to HB 3002. |
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325 |
Martin |
Indicates that he does not know. |
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340 |
Martin Loring |
Oregon Department of Transportation, Public Transit
Division, Administrator. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT F) in support of HB 3002. |
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385 |
David Barenberg |
League of Oregon Cities. Offers testimony in support
of HB 3002. |
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TAPE 54, B |
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010 |
Chair Brown |
Asks what percent the district are eligible for. |
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015 |
Loring |
Discusses the eligibility of districts. |
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025 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3002, and opens a
work session on HB 3002. |
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HB 3002
– WORK SESSION |
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030 |
Chair Brown |
Explains that the bill does have a subsequent
referral to Ways and Means. |
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035 |
Rep.
Dingfelder |
MOTION: Moves HB 3002 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior
reference. |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call
vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 – Greenlick (Vote recorded: Tape 54, B; counter #160) |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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040 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3002, and opens a work
session on HB 2997. |
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HB 2997
– WORK SESSION |
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050 |
Chair Brown |
Explains the need to reconsider the bill. |
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055 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of reconsidering the vote on HB 2997 (from 3/14). |
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060 |
Janet Adkins |
Explains that the measure had a subsequent referral,
but the referral can been removed, so the committee may recommend rescinding
the subsequent referral. |
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065 |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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070 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which we
passed HB 2997. |
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075 |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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080 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves HB 2997 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Revenue BE RESCINDED. |
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085 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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090 |
Rep.
Greenlick |
MOTION: Moves HB 2997 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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095 |
Adkins |
Clarifies an answer to a previous question by Rep.
Greenlick. |
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105 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2997 and opens a work
session on HB 2853. |
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HB 2853
– WORK SESSION |
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110 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
2853, and the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT
G). |
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130 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks how the board will select the staggered terms. |
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135 |
Adkins |
Indicates that the board has volunteers to have
their terms staggered. |
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140 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2853-2 amendments dated
03/18/03. |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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150 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2853 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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155 |
Rep. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves HB 2853 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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160 |
Rep. Brown
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MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules
be SUSPENDED to allow REP. GREENLICK to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the Motion:
to move HB 3002 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to
the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference. |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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170 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2853, and adjourns the
meeting at 10:07 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 3014, written testimony, Barbara Jacobson, 1 p.
B
– HB 2768, written testimony, Scott Bricker, 2 pp.
C
– HB 3001, written testimony, Troy Costales, 1 p.
D
– HB 3002, written testimony, Steve Rogers, 3 pp.
E
– HB 3002, written testimony, Justin Roach, 4 pp.
F
– HB 3002, written testimony, Martin Loring, 2 pp.
G
– HB 2853, -2 amendment, Staff, 1 p.