HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

March 31, 2003   Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  60 -  63

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2747 – Work Session

                                                HB 2666 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2217 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3510 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 60, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m., and opens a work session on HB 2747.

HB 2747 - WORK SESSION

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2747, and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT A).

020

Sen. Ringo

Senate District 17. Offers testimony in support of HB 2747.

040

Rep. Dingfelder

Thanks all those that have put in work on HB 2747.

050

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2747-1 amendments dated 03/24/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

060

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves HB 2747 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue by Prior Reference.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

070

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2747, and opens a public hearing on HB 2666.

HB 2666 – PUBLIC HEARING

075

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2666, and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT B).

090

Gary Lockwood

Oregon Director of Selective Service. Introduces himself and defers to Ms. Cleven.

115

Dianna Cleven

Selective Service, Region One Director. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) in support of HB 2666, with reference to Selective Service packet (EXHIBIT D).

190

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that there currently is not a draft.

195

Cleven

Acknowledges that currently there is no active draft.

200

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether informing those who register for a driver’s license would be a better means of increasing registration.

205

Cleven

Explains that allowing such an option would create more work for the Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV), and further discusses the issue.

240

Lockwood

Offers some history of Selective Service registration in response to Rep. Greenlick’s previous question.

285

Chair Brown

Asks Rep. Kropf to address the committee.

290

Cleven

Explains the options presented to registering youths.

300

Rep. Kropf

House District 17. Offers testimony in support of HB 2666, and explains his personal experience with the Selective Service.

345

Rep. Beyer

Expresses her concern that this bill would impact the number of drivers who are registered to drive.

360

Cleven

Discusses the issue of driver registration linked with draft registration in other states.

375

Rep. Kropf

Addresses the issues which cause individuals to not register for driver’s license.

TAPE 61, A

005

Rep. Mabrey

Mentions his personal patriotism, but expresses his concerns for linking requirements that are otherwise unrelated, and concern for making the requirement only for men.

030

Rep. Kropf

Discusses specific language in the bill.

035

Chair Brown

Explains that the bill would apply to those who are required to register by the federal government.

040

Lockwood

Comments on the ten percent who “fall through the cracks” and are not registered for whatever reason, and the possible rights they lose when not registering.

060

Rep. Kropf

Explains that it is appropriate to hold people accountable for their rights, and discusses the needs of those rights.

080

Rep. Mabrey

Comments on the success of registering people to vote, and asks whether the intent of the bill could be accomplished through increasing the visibility of the draft.

095

Rep. Kropf

Comments on youths interest in obtaining a drivers license, and how this would link those incentives to registering for the draft.

125

Lockwood

Explains that there are currently options as mentioned by Rep. Mabrey to register.

135

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether those states that have enacted similar legislation have done better at registering the ten percent which fails to register.

140

Lockwood

Explains that those states which have enacted similar legislation are in the high ninety to hundred percent range in registration.

150

Mary Lou Cornejo

Corvallis, Oregon. Offers testimony in support of HB 2666.

215

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT), DMV. Offers testimony regarding HB 2666 and the proposed -1 amendment, and the requirements which would be placed on ODOT upon passage of the bill.

250

Rep. Beyer

Refers to a letter she delivered to Congressmen DeFazio, requesting that the federal government better reimburse the States for their federally mandated programs. Asks how strong the reimbursement clause is in the bill.

260

Lockwood

Explains the reimbursement clause, and expresses his perception that it is quite strong.

280

Rep. Beyer

Asks if there would be ability to stop collecting the information if the federal government did not reimburse the state for the expense.

290

Lockwood

Further discusses the reimbursement issue, and the states ability to effectively enforce reimbursement.

305

Taylor

Discusses her perceptions of the reimbursement issue as outlined in the bill.

340

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that if the federal government does not reimburse the program, the state could stop the program.

345

Taylor

Explains that in lieu of non-reimbursement the state would be faced with a budget problem.

350

Rep. Greenlick

Asks if the state would be able, in this case, to issue a drivers license in opposition to this law.

355

Taylor

Explains that it would be a budget issue for the legislature, and explains further clarification would need to come from the Attorney Generals Office.

375

Ed Hughes

Veteran’s Service Association. Offers testimony in support of HB 2666.

430

Chair Brown

Explains that he would like to carry the bill over to the next meeting.

435

Rep. Gilman

Expresses support for the bill, but expresses his wish to see federal reimbursement for the cost.

440

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2666, and opens a public hearing on HB 2217.

TAPE 60, B

HB 2217 – PUBLIC HEARING

030

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2217.

050

Gregg Dal Ponte

Oregon Department of Transportation, Motor Carrier Transportation Division. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 2217.

165

Andrew Eno

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT F) in support of HB 2217.

290

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether Mr. Eno is referring to Federal Laws or Administrative Rule.

295

Eno

Explains that there are both regarding this issue, and even the federal regulations take precedence.

300

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether this bill would add further delay to farm truck inspection.

310

Dal Ponte

Explains that currently farm trucks are subject to weight and size inspections, and discusses the requirements which would be implemented as a result of this bill.

335

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks whether all states are required to uphold these inspections, and asks Mr. Eno to address other states compliance.

345

Eno

Discusses other state compliance.

360

Dal Ponte

Discusses his understanding of other state compliance.

375

Rep. Beyer

Indicates the farmers trust in Mr. Dal Ponte, but concern for the division.

390

Dal Ponte

Discusses the trust in himself in regards to the bill.

TAPE 61, B

015

Rep. Kropf

House District 17. As both a fifth generation farmer and the Chair of the Farm Plate Task Force, offers testimony regarding HB 2217.

095

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether Rep. Kropf is suggesting that the committee hold the bill until the state receives notice regarding the issue.

100

Rep. Kropf

Comments on the need for notice from the federal government.

110

Jene Underhill-Wilkinson

Oregon Farm Bureau. Offers testimony regarding HB 2217.

175

Rep. Dingfelder

Comments on other states compliance with the federal regulations and what makes Oregon unique enough to warrant an exemption.

185

Wilkinson

Explains that she is unsure of the situation in other states, and comments on the unique situation in Oregon.

210

Rep. Greenlick

Refers to Rep. Kropf’s mention of a voluntary program, and asks for comment on that proposal.

220

Wilkinson

Comments on the voluntary proposal.

235

Dean Freeborn

Polk County Farm Bureau, President. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 2217.

320

Chair Brown

Comments on the federal regulation.

330

Brad Anderson

Arlington, Oregon. Offers testimony regarding HB 2217.

370

Chair Brown

Comments on when inspections should occur.

380

Rep. Mabrey

Comments on the need to ensure the federal funding.

390

Wilkinson

Expresses concern for moving the bill out of committee today.

400

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether Ms. Wilkinson has been working on the alternatives.

405

Wilkinson

Explains that they are not currently working on alternatives, because they had been focusing on the exemption.

TAPE 62, A

010

Rep. Mabrey

Asks whether it would be possible for ODOT to implement a self-certification program, while complying with the federal guidelines.

020

Wilkinson

Explains that while those are good questions, she does not know the answer. Points out that those questions should be addressed to the representatives of the federal government.

025

Tom Brawley

Marion County. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 2217.

050

Claude White

Marion County. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 2217.

060

Vice Chair Mabrey

Closes the public hearing on HB 2217, and opens a public hearing on HB 3510.

HB 3510 – PUBLIC HEARING

065

Rep. Verger

House District 9. Offers testimony regarding HB 3510.

130

Rep. Anderson

House District 3. Offers testimony in support of HB 3510 with reference to written testimony of Robert Weber, Public Works Director for Josephine County (EXHIBIT G).

190

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether it is likely that the relative criterion will change.

200

Rep. Anderson

Acknowledges.

210

Rep. Beyer

Refers to a similar issue in her district. Expresses her concern for having these largely local roads part of the state when they have little interest in maintaining these properties, and concern for having those who use these roads pay for them.

230

Rep. Anderson

Discusses the issue of who pays.

240

Rep. Mabrey

Asks if Committee Administrator Adkins has anything to add, as to the description of the bill.

245

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Explains that she does not have anything to add.

260

Bill Peterson

City of Grants Pass. Offers testimony in support of HB 3510.

400

Rep. Mabrey

Recesses the hearing on HB 3510, and reopens the public on HB 2217.

TAPE 63, A

HB 2217 – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Curt Curtis

Oregon State Police. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) in support of HB 2217.

050

Kevin Peterson

Motor Carrier Program Coordinator, Clackamas County. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) in support of HB 2217.

085

John Naccarato

Clackamas County Sheriff, Sergeant. Offers testimony in support of HB 2217.

100

Rep. Mabrey

Asks whether the state could use a voluntary program but still meet federal guidelines.

105

Eno

Discusses the possibility.

130

Rep. Mabrey

Discusses his personal experience.

135

Peterson

Refers to the equality aspect of the bill.

150

Rep. Mabrey

Closes the public hearing on HB 2217, and adjourns the meeting at 11:00 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2747, -1 amendment, Staff, 3 pp.

B – HB 2666, -1 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

C – HB 2666, written testimony, Dianna Cleven, 2 pp.

D – HB 2666, Selective Service packet, Dianna Cleven, Oversized.

E – HB 2217, written testimony, Gregg Dal Ponte, 3 pp.

F – HB 2217, written testimony, Andrew Eno, 3 pp.

G – HB 3510, written testimony, Robert Weber, 1 p.

H – HB 2217, written testimony, Curt Curtis, 1 p.

I – HB 2217, written testimony, Kevin Peterson, 1 p.