HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
April 02, 2003 Hearing Room 357
8:30 AM Tapes 64
- 65
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair
Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder
Rep. George Gilman
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Cliff Zauner
STAFF PRESENT: Janet
Adkins, Administrator
Ryan Sherlock, Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2999 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
HB 2933 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
HB
2801 – Work Session
HB 3111 – Work Session
HB 3240 – Public Hearing
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 64, A |
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003 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m., and opens a
public hearing on HB 2999. |
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HB 2999
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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005 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2999,
and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT
A). |
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030 |
Paul Romaine |
Oregon Petroleum Marketers Association. Offers
testimony in support of HB 2999 and the proposed -1 amendment. |
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070 |
Chair Brown |
Asks about figures presented in testimony. |
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075 |
Romaine |
Clarifies the figures. |
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080 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if there is any ability to collect delinquent
accounts. |
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085 |
Cliff Olson |
Explains that there is little ability to collect
before the fuel is sold. |
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090 |
Chair Brown |
Asks whether lost taxes could be reclaimed through a
lien process. |
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095 |
Olson |
Discusses the collection options of the
distributors. |
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100 |
Romaine |
Explains that the distributor is the one with the
financial incentive to pursue collection. |
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105 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks what the tax rate is for fuel distribution. |
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110 |
Romaine |
Explains the tax amount is 24 cents per gallon. |
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115 |
Chair Brown |
Clarifies that they still currently have to collect
the federal fuel tax. |
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120 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Discusses his concerns for the bill, and clarifies
that the dealer extends the credit. |
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125 |
Olson |
Explains that the dealer extends the credit, but
points out that the dealer has the invested interest. |
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130 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Points out that the State did not make that credit
decision, and discusses accountability for that tax. |
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145 |
Romaine |
Explains that the dealer is the states tax
collector, and indicates that the dealer is not attempting to pass liability
on to the state, but since fuel is an essential commodity the state should
participate. |
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175 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Points out that the tax is apart of the cost of the
fuel, and that just because the tax isn’t collected does not mean the benefit
was not used. |
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190 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2999, and opens a
work session on HB 2999. |
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HB 2999
– WORK SESSION |
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200 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2999-1 amendments dated
03/25/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Dingfelder |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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205 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2999 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on REVENUE by
prior reference. |
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210 |
Rep. Gilman |
Expresses his concerns for the bill, but intent to
vote AYE. |
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215 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks whether it would be better to move the bill
without recommendation. |
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220 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Discusses when the tax is collected, and points out
that the driver ends up paying the tax at the pump. Further discusses the
collection of these taxes. |
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250 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Expresses his intent to vote NO on the bill. |
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260 |
Rep. Zauner |
Expresses concern for the liability of small dealers
and there ability to collect the tax. |
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270 |
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VOTE:
5-1 AYE: 5 - Beyer, Gilman, Greenlick, Zauner, Brown NAY: 1 - Mabrey EXCUSED: 1 - Dingfelder |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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285 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2933, and opens a
public hearing on HB 2933. |
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HB 2933
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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290 |
Rep. Doyle |
House District 19. Offers testimony in support of HB
2933. |
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TAPE 65, A |
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045 |
Rep. Zauner |
Clarifies that if the other party does not file a
report then you would not need to file a report. Asks in the mentioned
example which insurance company paid. |
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065 |
Rep. Doyle |
Points out that it is after the accident when
information is exchanged, and further comments on reporting of accidents. |
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085 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Points out that the bill would allow individuals
involved in limited collisions to be able to handle accidents independent
from the insurance companies. |
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090 |
Rep. Doyle |
Explains that, while true, this was not his intent. |
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100 |
Kelly Taylor |
Oregon Department of Transportation. Offer written
testimony (EXHIBIT B) regarding HB
2933. Discusses the use of data collected form accident reports. |
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145 |
Rep. Gilman |
Asks if consideration has been given to other
indexes than the Consumer Price Index (CPI). |
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150 |
Taylor |
Discusses the use of the CPI in accident reporting. |
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165 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Points out that by increasing the accident reporting
amount, it would not necessarily change the sampling statistics. |
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180 |
Taylor |
Explains that minor accidents give a clue as to when
major accidents will occur. |
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185 |
Rep. Zauner |
Discusses the issue of non-insured drivers. |
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195 |
Rep. Beyer |
Discusses her personal experience regarding a car
accident, and asks what her reporting requirements would be in this situation. |
|
210 |
Taylor |
Explains that the bill would require only the person
with the damage to report. |
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215 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Points out the high cost of any accident. Asks if
every accident should be reported. |
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225 |
Taylor |
Discusses the issue of accident reporting threshold. |
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245 |
Rep. Zauner |
Asks why the insurance company could not be
responsible for reporting the information they collect. |
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250 |
Taylor |
Explains that she does not know what burden that
would place on the insurance company. |
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260 |
Rep. Zauner |
Discusses his experience in accident reporting. |
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265 |
Taylor |
Further comments on accident reporting, and the
information which is collected. |
|
285 |
Rep. Zauner |
Points out that the insurance forms already collect
the information. |
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290 |
Taylor |
Acknowledges. |
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295 |
Chair Brown |
Asks who provides the estimate to the cost of the
accident. |
|
300 |
Taylor |
Explains that she does not know the answer, but will
get back to the committee. |
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305 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2933, and opens a
work session on HB 2933. |
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HB 2933
– WORK SESSION |
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310 |
Rep.
Greenlick |
MOTION: Moves HB 2933 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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320 |
Rep. Beyer |
Expresses her intention to vote NO on the measure,
and discusses her concerns regarding the reporting. |
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325 |
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VOTE:
4-2 AYE: 4 - Greenlick, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown NAY: 2 - Beyer, Gilman EXCUSED: 1 - Dingfelder |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. GREENLICK will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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345 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2933, and opens a work
session on HB 2801. |
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HB 2801
– WORK SESSION |
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355 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2801,
and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT
C). |
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400 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks where the figure $958 for the licensing fee came
from. |
|
405 |
Deb Elkins |
Northwest Automotive Trades Association. Explains
that the $958 figure came form suggestions from ODOT. |
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415 |
Rep.
Mabrey |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2801-1 amendments dated
03/31/03. |
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420 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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425 |
Rep.
Mabrey |
MOTION: Moves HB 2801 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means. |
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430 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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440 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2801, and opens a work
session on HB 3111. |
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HB 3111
– WORK SESSION |
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TAPE 64, B |
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025 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offer a description of HB
3111, and Judiciary Committees wish to have the bill. |
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035 |
Rep.
Mabrey |
MOTION: Moves HB 3111 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION
as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Judiciary. |
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040 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Expresses his concern for notification of
suspension. |
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060 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Explains his motion without recommendation was
intended for those concerns to be heard in the Judiciary Committee. |
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065 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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070 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3111, and opens a
public hearing on HB 3240. |
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HB 3240
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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075 |
Janet Adkins |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
3240. |
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085 |
Scott Bricker |
Oregon Traffic Safety Coalition. Offers written testimony
(EXHIBIT D) in support of HB 3240. |
|
100 |
Mark Lear |
City of Portland. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 3240. |
|
190 |
Catherine Ciarlo |
Bicycle Transportation Alliance. Offers written
testimony (EXHIBIT F) in support
of HB 3240. |
|
285 |
Joanne Fairchild |
Trauma Nurse Coordinator/Injury Prevention. Offer
written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in
support of HB 3240. |
|
400 |
Susan Schneider |
City of Portland. Offers testimony in support of HB
3240. |
|
430 |
Rep. Mabrey |
Points out that the issue is a serious safety issue,
and asks why Ms. Schneider would be requesting amendments to make compliance
optional. |
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445 |
Schneider |
Explains that due to jurisdictional variation, the
amendment would help alleviate conflict. |
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450 |
Rep. Zauner |
Discusses his personal experience with the safety
issue regarding walking, or riding bikes to school. |
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TAPE 65, B |
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040 |
Fairchild |
Discusses a program her organization supports called
“Walking School Bus.” |
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050 |
Lear |
Discusses the issue of safety and walking to school. |
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065 |
Ciarlo |
Explains that she does not believe this bill and the
money it would bring would fix the entire problem, but would help. |
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075 |
Rep. Zauner |
Points out the states current budget problems. |
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080 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Points out his constituent support for the bill. |
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085 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Addresses Rep. Zauner’s concern, and discusses her
involvement in the “Walking School Bus” program. |
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105 |
Rep. Gilman |
Asks how much funding would be raised from this
program. |
|
110 |
Lear |
Discusses the possible funding raised. |
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115 |
Adkins |
Addresses concern for the naming of the fund. |
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120 |
Schneider |
Acknowledges the concern and explains this will be
worked out with ODOT. |
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125 |
Rex Burkholder |
Metro Councilor. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) in support of HB 3240. |
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185 |
Jacob Brostoff |
1000 Friends of Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) in support of HB 3240. |
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215 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Points out that beyond helping children, this bill
would help all pedestrians. Discusses personal experience regarding
pedestrian safety. |
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260 |
Andrea Fogue |
League of Oregon Cities. Offers testimony in support
of HB 3240. |
|
275 |
Troy Costales |
Oregon Department of Transportation, Traffic Safety
Division. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT
J) regarding HB 3240. |
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385 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks about the funding of the Safety Education Fund. |
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395 |
Costales |
Discusses the funding provided to the Safety
Education Fund. |
|
425 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Clarifies that the fund does not currently have a
dedicated revenue source. |
|
430 |
Costales |
Concurs, and further discusses the fund. |
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440 |
Rep. Zauner |
Comments on the collection of the fee. |
|
450 |
Janet Adkins |
Introduces written testimony from Dave Tyler of ODOT
regarding HB 2999 (EXHIBIT L). |
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450 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3240, and adjourns
the meeting at 10: 27 a.m. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for
the record without public testimony for HB 3240: |
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Staff |
Submits written testimonies (EXHIBIT K). |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2999, -1 amendment, Staff, 2 pp.
B
– HB 2933, written testimony, Kelly Taylor, 1 p.
C
– HB 2801, -1 amendment, Staff, 2 pp.
D
– HB 3240, written testimony, Scott Bricker, 3 pp.
E
– HB 3240, written testimony, Mark Lear, 3 pp.
F
– HB 3240, written testimony, Catherine Ciarlo, 2 pp.
G
– HB 3240, written testimony, Joanne Fairchild, 2 pp.
H
– HB 3240, written testimony, Rex Burkholder, 1 p.
I
– HB 3240, written testimony, Jacob Brostoff, 1 p.
J
– HB 3240, written testimony, Troy Costales, 1 p.
K
– HB 3240, written testimonies, Staff, 8 pp.
L
– HB 2999, written testimony, Dave Tyler, 1 p.