HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

April 07, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  70 - 72

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2666 – Work Session

                                                HB 3444 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3582 – Public Hearing

                                               

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 70, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:26 a.m., and opens a work session on HB 2666.

HB 2666 – WORK SESSION

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2666, the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT A), and the proposed -3 amendment (EXHIBIT B).

025

Gary Lockwood

State Director of Selective Service. Offers testimony in support of HB 2666 with reference to the Selective Service packet (EXHIBIT C) given to the members before the meeting.

075

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation, Division of Motor Vehicles. Offers testimony regarding HB 2666, including problems with the proposed -1 amendment.

090

Chair Brown

Asks if the -2 amendment addresses this concern.

095

Taylor

Indicates the -2 amendment and the -3 amendment are ok.

110

Rep. Mabrey

Clarifies that the federal funding comes as a reimbursement, but that money is needed to start the program, effectively creating a catch-22.

115

Lockwood

Addresses the concerns with the amendments regarding funding.

135

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the bill would need a subsequent referral to the Committee on Ways and Means.

140

Chair Brown

Clarifies the Ways and Means referral.

145

Rep. Beyer

Refers to a state which enacted the program but required the funding upfront.

155

Lockwood

Discusses the funding and implementation in other states.

175

Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2666-2 amendments dated 04/04/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

185

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves HB 2666 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means.

 

 

VOTE:  5-2

AYE:               5 - Beyer, Gilman, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown

NAY:               2 - Dingfelder, Greenlick

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

200

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2666, and opens a work session on HB 3444.

HB 3444 – PUBLIC HEARING

205

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3444.

225

Rep. Dingfelder

Indicates she is one of the main sponsors of the bill. Offers a brief history of the issue and reasoning for the legislation.

240

Chris Hagerbaumer

Oregon Environmental Council. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT D) in support of HB 3444, with reference to submitted written testimony from Jenny Holmes with the Interfaith Network of Earth Concerns, Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon (EXHIBIT E), Eban Goodstein Associate Professor of Economics at Lewis and Clark College (EXHIBIT F), and Kirsten Jensen Asthma Policy and Programs Manager for the American Lung Association of Oregon (EXHIBIT G).

400

Sharon Grasseth

Salem, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) in support of HB 3444.

TAPE 71, A

001

Grasseth

Continues with testimony.

055

Rep. Mabrey

Asks how Ms. Grasseth feels regarding taxation of her sport utility vehicle (SUV).

060

Grasseth

Discusses the fuel tax of her SUV.

070

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether hybrid vehicles cost more than others with similar fuel efficiency.

075

Grasseth

Indicates she thinks they are similar in price.

080

Rep. Greenlick

Points out that cost does not seem to be a concern for those who buy hybrid vehicles, so therefore an extra registration fee might not affect the buying decision.

090

Grasseth

Discusses her purchase decision regarding her hybrid vehicle.

095

John Earle

Hybrid Owner. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.

120

Rep. Gilman

Asks if these funding methods are decreased, how the roads would be funded.

125

Earle

Discusses the issue of funding.

145

Marilyn Dilles

Corvallis, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) in support of HB 3444.

295

David Brook

Flex Car. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.

355

Al Jubith

Portland, Oregon. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.

TAPE 70, B

035

Jubith

Addresses Rep. Gilman’s prior question about funding road maintenance if these fees are reduced.

075

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation, Division of Motor Vehicles. Offers testimony regarding HB 3444.

125

Rep. Zauner

Asks if costs would be less if the bill only applied to new vehicles.

130

Taylor

Explains this would help, and discusses the cost associated with this situation.

140

Rep. Zauner

Asks if the Department could work with the dealers on the issue.

145

Taylor

Discusses the ability for ODOT to work with the new car dealers.

150

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether hybrid vehicles create less wear on the roads than other vehicles.

160

Taylor

Discusses how the registration fees are used.

165

Rep. Beyer

Clarifies her question regarding basing fees on air quality versus improving the road system.

170

Rep. Dingfelder

Discusses the uses of the registration fee, and points out that registration fees do not represent true costs.

200

Taylor

Further discusses the use of road fees and the limited ability for use.

205

Rep. Dingfelder

Discusses the intent of the bill.

210

Rep. Beyer

Expresses her concern that the bill does not address the issue of reducing vehicle miles traveled.

225

Darryl Fuller

Oregon Automobile Dealers Association. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3444, discussing the intent of the registration fee vs. the intent of the gas tax.

360

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3444, and opens a public hearing on HB 3582.

HB 3582 – PUBLIC HEARING

365

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3582.

385

Rep. Hunt

House District 40. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT J) in support of HB 3582.

TAPE 71, B

005

Rep. Hunt

Continues with testimony in support of HB 3582.

100

Rep. Greenlick

Asks which counties would benefit from this measure and which would lose, questioning that the county in which the vehicle is registered is not necessarily related to use in that county.

120

Rep. Hunt

Addresses Rep. Greenlick’s concern, discussing the relationship between population and car registration.

155

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks about statistics provided in Rep. Hunt’s testimony, indicating her wish to see projections ten years from now without the bill.

165

Rep. Hunt

Clarifies Rep. Dingfelder’s concerns, and offers an overview of what such a projection would look like.

185

Rep. Beyer

Ask whether there is currently a factor allowing for high-growth counties.

190

Rep. Hunt

Explains that there is currently no such factor.

195

Bill Penhollow

Association of Oregon Counties. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT K) regarding HB 3582.

365

Cam Gilmour

Clackamas County. Offers testimony in support of HB 3582.

420

Rep. Zauner

Asks which counties would be opposed to the bill.

425

Penhollow

Explains that he does not know all those counties would be adversely affected by the measure.

TAPE 72, A

025

Rep. Mabrey

Asks about the adjustments which are made to the formula annually.

035

Rep. Hunt

Discusses the proposed formula and its adjustments.

050

Susan Schneider

City of Portland. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3582.

065

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB3582.

070

Adkins

Enters into the record written testimony from Dave Tyler of ODOT (EXHIBIT L) regarding HB 3582, and submitted pamphlets (EXHIBIT M) regarding HB 2666.

075

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3582 and adjourns the meeting at 10:30 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2666, -2 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

B – HB 2666, -3 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

C – HB 2666, Selective Service packet, Staff, 13 pp.

D – HB 3444, written testimony, Chris Hagerbaumer, 2 pp.

E – HB 3444, written testimony, Jenny Holmes, 1 p.

F – HB 3444, written testimony, Eban Goodstein, 1 p.

G – HB 3444, written testimony, Kirsten Jensen, 1 p.

H – HB 3444, written testimony, Sharon Grasseth, 1 p.

I – HB 3444, written testimony, Marilyn Dilles, 1 p.

J – HB 3582, written testimony, Rep. Hunt, 6 pp.

K – HB 3582, written testimony, Bill Penhollow, 2 pp.

L – HB 3582, written testimony, Dave Tyler, 1 p.

M – HB 2666, submitted pamphlets, Staff, 6 pp.