HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

April 07, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes 70 - 72

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

STAFF PRESENT: Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2666 – Work Session

HB 3444 – Public Hearing

HB 3582 – Public Hearing

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 70, A
003	Chair Brown	Calls the meeting to order at 8:26 a.m., and opens a work session on HB 2666.
HB 2666 – WORK SESSION
005	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2666, the proposed -2 amendment (EXHIBIT A), and the proposed -3 amendment (EXHIBIT B).
025	Gary Lockwood	State Director of Selective Service. Offers testimony in support of HB 2666 with reference to the Selective Service packet (EXHIBIT C) given to the members before the meeting.
075	Kelly Taylor	Oregon Department of Transportation, Division of Motor Vehicles. Offers testimony regarding HB 2666, including problems with the proposed -1 amendment.
090	Chair Brown	Asks if the -2 amendment addresses this concern.
095	Taylor	Indicates the -2 amendment and the -3 amendment are ok.
110	Rep. Mabrey	Clarifies that the federal funding comes as a reimbursement, but that money is needed to start the program, effectively creating a catch-22.
115	Lockwood	Addresses the concerns with the amendments regarding funding.
135	Rep. Zauner	Asks whether the bill would need a subsequent referral to the Committee on Ways and Means.
140	Chair Brown	Clarifies the Ways and Means referral.
145	Rep. Beyer	Refers to a state which enacted the program but required the funding upfront.
155	Lockwood	Discusses the funding and implementation in other states.
175	Chair Brown	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2666-2 amendments dated 04/04/03.
		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Brown	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
185	Rep. Mabrey	MOTION: Moves HB 2666 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means.
		VOTE: 5-2 AYE: 5 - Beyer, Gilman, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown NAY: 2 - Dingfelder, Greenlick
	Chair Brown	The motion CARRIES.
200	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on HB 2666, and opens a work session on HB 3444.
HB 3444 – PUBLIC HEARING
205	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3444.
225	Rep. Dingfelder	Indicates she is one of the main sponsors of the bill. Offers a brief history of the issue and reasoning for the legislation.
240	Chris Hagerbaumer	Oregon Environmental Council. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT D) in support of HB 3444, with reference to submitted written testimony from Jenny Holmes with the Interfaith Network of Earth Concerns, Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon (EXHIBIT E), Eban Goodstein Associate Professor of Economics at Lewis and Clark College (EXHIBIT F), and Kirsten Jensen Asthma Policy and Programs Manager for the American Lung Association of Oregon (EXHIBIT G).
400	Sharon Grasseth	Salem, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) in support of HB 3444.
TAPE 71, A
001	Grasseth	Continues with testimony.
055	Rep. Mabrey	Asks how Ms. Grasseth feels regarding taxation of her sport utility vehicle (SUV).
060	Grasseth	Discusses the fuel tax of her SUV.
070	Rep. Greenlick	Asks whether hybrid vehicles cost more than others with similar fuel efficiency.
075	Grasseth	Indicates she thinks they are similar in price.
080	Rep. Greenlick	Points out that cost does not seem to be a concern for those who buy hybrid vehicles, so therefore an extra registration fee might not affect the buying decision.
090	Grasseth	Discusses her purchase decision regarding her hybrid vehicle.
095	John Earle	Hybrid Owner. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.
120	Rep. Gilman	Asks if these funding methods are decreased, how the roads would be funded.
125	Earle	Discusses the issue of funding.
145	Marilyn Dilles	Corvallis, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) in support of HB 3444.
295	David Brook	Flex Car. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.
355	Al Jubith	Portland, Oregon. Offers testimony in support of HB 3444.
TAPE 70, B
035	Jubith	Addresses Rep. Gilman’s prior question about funding road maintenance if these fees are reduced.
075	Kelly Taylor	Oregon Department of Transportation, Division of Motor Vehicles. Offers testimony regarding HB 3444.
125	Rep. Zauner	Asks if costs would be less if the bill only applied to new vehicles.
130	Taylor	Explains this would help, and discusses the cost associated with this situation.
140	Rep. Zauner	Asks if the Department could work with the dealers on the issue.
145	Taylor	Discusses the ability for ODOT to work with the new car dealers.
150	Rep. Beyer	Asks whether hybrid vehicles create less wear on the roads than other vehicles.
160	Taylor	Discusses how the registration fees are used.
165	Rep. Beyer	Clarifies her question regarding basing fees on air quality versus improving the road system.
170	Rep. Dingfelder	Discusses the uses of the registration fee, and points out that registration fees do not represent true costs.
200	Taylor	Further discusses the use of road fees and the limited ability for use.
205	Rep. Dingfelder	Discusses the intent of the bill.
210	Rep. Beyer	Expresses her concern that the bill does not address the issue of reducing vehicle miles traveled.
225	Darryl Fuller	Oregon Automobile Dealers Association. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3444, discussing the intent of the registration fee vs. the intent of the gas tax.
360	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on HB 3444, and opens a public hearing on HB 3582.
HB 3582 – PUBLIC HEARING
365	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3582.
385	Rep. Hunt	House District 40. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT J) in support of HB 3582.
TAPE 71, B
005	Rep. Hunt	Continues with testimony in support of HB 3582.
100	Rep. Greenlick	Asks which counties would benefit from this measure and which would lose, questioning that the county in which the vehicle is registered is not necessarily related to use in that county.
120	Rep. Hunt	Addresses Rep. Greenlick’s concern, discussing the relationship between population and car registration.
155	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks about statistics provided in Rep. Hunt’s testimony, indicating her wish to see projections ten years from now without the bill.
165	Rep. Hunt	Clarifies Rep. Dingfelder’s concerns, and offers an overview of what such a projection would look like.
185	Rep. Beyer	Ask whether there is currently a factor allowing for high-growth counties.
190	Rep. Hunt	Explains that there is currently no such factor.
195	Bill Penhollow	Association of Oregon Counties. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT K) regarding HB 3582.
365	Cam Gilmour	Clackamas County. Offers testimony in support of HB 3582.
420	Rep. Zauner	Asks which counties would be opposed to the bill.
425	Penhollow	Explains that he does not know all those counties would be adversely affected by the measure.
TAPE 72, A
025	Rep. Mabrey	Asks about the adjustments which are made to the formula annually.
035	Rep. Hunt	Discusses the proposed formula and its adjustments.
050	Susan Schneider	City of Portland. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3582.
065	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on HB3582.
070	Adkins	Enters into the record written testimony from Dave Tyler of ODOT (EXHIBIT L) regarding HB 3582, and submitted pamphlets (EXHIBIT M) regarding HB 2666.
075	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on HB 3582 and adjourns the meeting at 10:30 a.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2666, -2 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

B – HB 2666, -3 amendment, Staff, 1 p.

C – HB 2666, Selective Service packet, Staff, 13 pp.

D – HB 3444, written testimony, Chris Hagerbaumer, 2 pp.

E – HB 3444, written testimony, Jenny Holmes, 1 p.

F – HB 3444, written testimony, Eban Goodstein, 1 p.

G – HB 3444, written testimony, Kirsten Jensen, 1 p.

H – HB 3444, written testimony, Sharon Grasseth, 1 p.

I – HB 3444, written testimony, Marilyn Dilles, 1 p.

J – HB 3582, written testimony, Rep. Hunt, 6 pp.

K – HB 3582, written testimony, Bill Penhollow, 2 pp.

L – HB 3582, written testimony, Dave Tyler, 1 p.

M – HB 2666, submitted pamphlets, Staff, 6 pp.