HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

April 11, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  78 - 79

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2661 – Public Hearing

HB 2388 – Public Hearing

HB 3615 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3583 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 78, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls meeting to order at 8:36 a.m., and explains that there is a problem which needs to be resolved with HB 2670 so it will be held over to a future meeting. Opens a public hearing on HB 2661.

HB 2661 – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2661, which is replaced by the proposed -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A), and points out the need for future amendments.

030

Rep. Greenlick

Discusses his experience in doing a ride along with the State Police, where he noticed the problem corrected by the -1 amendments to HB 2661. Discusses what changes need to be made to the -1 amendments.

050

Doug Tindal

Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT B) in support of HB 2661-1.

070

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2661-1, and opens a public hearing on HB 2388.

HB 2388 – PUBLIC HEARING

075

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2388, and opens a public hearing on HB 3615.

HB 3615 – PUBLIC HEARING

095

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3615.

110

Scott West

Oregon Lodging Association. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) in support of HB 3615.

120

Chair Brown

Clarifies that the signs in question display the restaurants, etc. at the upcoming exit on the freeway.

130

Cheryl Gribskov

Oregon Travel Information Council (OTIC). Acknowledges, and offers a brief explanation of the signs in question, with reference to brochure Oregon Travel Information Council: Driving Tourism In Oregon (EXHIBIT D).

135

Chair Brown

Asks if those who advertise pay for the service.

140

Gribskov

Explains that there is an annual fee for the service.

145

Rep. Zauner

Clarifies that the signs in question are the blue signs which are controlled by the federal government.

150

Gribskov

Acknowledges.

155

Rep. Zauner

Clarifies that then the signs in question are the signs off interstate.

160

Gribskov

Acknowledges.

165

Rep. Zauner

Asks why there is a limit as to the number of advertisements on the signs.

170

Gribskov

Discusses the relevant federal guidelines which regulate the advertising.

175

Rep. Zauner

Asks how this could be changed.

180

Gribskov

Points out that these are considered “motorist services” and deemed unessential by the federal government.

185

Rep. Zauner

Discusses his personal experience regarding this issue, and ask for information on how Oregon might change this.

195

West

Indicates he will get this information for the committee.

200

Rep. Beyer

Asks if the fee follows the transfer of the sign.

205

Gribskov

Explains that the fee would stay with the OTIC.

210

Rep. Gilman

Asks what the intent of the transfer is.

215

West

Discusses the reason for the transfer.

220

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether the cities or counties have any problem with the bill.

225

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3615, and recesses the meeting.

RECESS

260

Chair Brown

Calls meeting back to order, and opens a work session on HB 3615.

HB 3615 – WORK SESSION

265

Rep. Zauner

Asks what the federal government will not allow.

270

Gribskov

Explains that there cannot be more than four advertisements on the sign, and further discusses restrictions.

275

Rep. Zauner

Referring to submitted pamphlet, clarifies the federal restrictions.

280

Gribskov

Further comments on the restrictions.

285

Rep. Flores

House District 51. Offers testimony in support of HB 3615.

300

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves HB 3615 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

305

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Dingfelder

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

310

Rep. Zauner

MOTION:  Moves HB 3615 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Dingfelder

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

320

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3615, and opens a public hearing on HB 3583.

HB 3583 – PUBLIC HEARING

330

Rep. Hunt

House District 40. Offers testimony in support of HB 3583, with reference to submitted testimony (EXHIBIT E) from Fred Land.

385

Rep. Zauner

Comments on his personal experience regarding the bill.

395

Rep. Hunt

Comments on other states implementation of the bill.

TAPE 79, A

005

Rep. Gilman

Acknowledges that this would probably contribute to safety, but expresses concern for legislating common sense.

015

Rep. Hunt

Comments on the common sense aspect of the bill.

025

Rep. Beyer

Asks what the fine would be in the statute.

030

Rep. Hunt

Indicates that this would be set by the agency, and discusses fines in other states.

035

Rep. Beyer

Comments on the possible range of the fine.

040

Adkins

Discusses similar statutes in other states.

050

Rep. Greenlick

Discusses the statute which would be amended by the bill.

060

Rep. Hunt

Quotes the Oregon Drivers Manual regarding the use of headlights when driving under poor visibility.

080

Stan Porter

Oregon Department of Transportation, Transportation Safety Division. Offers Written testimony (EXHIBIT F) regarding HB 3583, expressing concern for educating the public on the change.

100

Chair Brown

Clarifies that there is a bill in the Senate which is similar to HB 3583.

105

Porter

Acknowledges, and discusses the Senate bill.

110

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether notification could not be made at the boarder.

115

Porter

Explains that while there is no specific sign, there are some which are posted.

120

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies which laws are posted.

125

Porter

Explains that those signs only indicate the unusual traffic laws which cause the most confusion.

130

Rep. Zauner

Asks about the expressed concerns regarding the Senate bill.

135

Porter

Explains the main concern was safety.

140

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3583, and points out the need to carry over HB 2679 to another meeting.

150

Rep. Greenlick

Asks what whether the committee could do a conceptual amendment on HB 2661.

155

Chair Brown

Points out the Chief Clerk’s opposition to conceptual amendments.

160

Janet Adkins

Points out Legislative Counsel’s dislike for conceptual amendments.

165

Rep. Greenlick

Acknowledges.

166

Adkins

Discusses her conversations with Legislative Counsel.

170

Chair Brown

Adjourns the meeting at 9:16 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2661, -1 amendment, Staff, 2 pp.

B – HB 2686, written testimony, Doug Tindal, 1 p.

C – HB 3615, written testimony, Scott West, 1 p.

D – HB 3615, Driving Tourism In Oregon pamphlet, Cheryl Gribskov, 2 pp.

E – HB 3583, written testimony, Fred Land, 1 p.

F – HB 3583, written testimony, Stan Porter, 2 pp.