HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

April 30, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes 94 – 95

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

STAFF PRESENT: Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 179A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3628 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 83A – Public Hearing

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
Tape 94, A
003	Chair Brown	Calls meeting to order at 8:40 a.m., and opens a public hearing on SB 179A.
SB 179A – PUBLIC HEARING
005	Rep. Greenlick	Updates the committee on the status and intent of SB 179A, with reference to sample signage (EXHIBIT A) and sample fine matrix (EXHIBIT B).
040	Sen. Beyer	Senate District 9. Offers testimony in favor of SB 179A with reference to relative situations in his district.
085	Chair Brown	Concurs with Sen. Beyer on the effectiveness of blinking lights in school zones.
100	D. Bridges	Oregon Forest Products Transportation Association. Offers testimony in support of SB 179A.
130	Christy Monson	League of Oregon Cities. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) regarding SB 179A.
140	Chair Brown	Clarifies the $7200.00 figure offered in testimony.
145	Rep. Dingfelder	Points out the figure in question is an average for a city the size of Redmond, Oregon.
150	Rep. Beyer	Asks whether the bill would require the cities to install flashing lights around schools.
155	Monson	Explains that the bill would not require such action by the city, and further discusses the issue.
160	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on SB 179 A, and opens a work session on SB 179 A.
SB 179 A- WORK SESSION
165	Rep. Greenlick	MOTION: Moves SB 179A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
165	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Points out that the committee adopted the proposed –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT D) during the last meeting (04/28/2003). Clarifies that those amendments are technical amendments requested by Legislative Counsel.
175	Rep. Gilman	Points out his intent to vote Aye on the bill as amended.
180		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Brown	The motion CARRIES. GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor.
190	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on SB 179A, and opens a public hearing on HB 3628.
HB 3628 – PUBLIC HEARING
195	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3628, pointing out that the bill contains the intent of HB 2685 which had an inadequate relating clause for the scope of the bill.
250	Ken Armstrong	Oregon Ports Group. Offer testimony in support of HB 3628.
270	Don Mann	Port of Newport. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 3628.
335	Chair Brown	Refers to a specific situation, and asks whether this fund could be used to address such a situation.
340	Mann	Explains that the fund would cover such a situation, and further discusses the fund.
345	Chair Brown	Asks about the scope of the problem.
350	Armstrong	Discusses the fiscal and geographic scope of the problem.
365	Paul Donheffner	Oregon Marine Board. Offers testimony in support of HB 3628.
375	Rep. Dingfelder	Mentions that a portion of the Columbia River is within her district. Asks about specific language in the bill regarding the proposed fee increase for floating homes.
385	Donheffner	Explains that floating homes have a one time title fee, so the increase is not so significant.
TAPE 95, A
010	Rep. Dingfelder	Expresses her relief that these abandoned vessels will no longer be burned as a means of removal, asks whether local governments would be eligible to access the removal fund.
015	Donheffner	Explains that the original bill limited access to the fund to Ports, but subsequent amendments would give access to local governmental agencies.
020	Phil Donovan	Northwest Stealheaders. Offers testimony regarding HB 3628.
045	Janet Adkins	Asks whether there is any estimate as to how much would be raised in a biennium.
050	Donheffner	Explains the revenue would be around $200,000 per biennium, and discusses the estimated revenue sources.
070	Chair Brown	Asks how the state would be able to identify every boathouse.
075	Donheffner	Explains that both floating homes and boat houses are currently titled.
080	Rep. Greenlick	Clarifies the definition of “abandoned” in the bill.
090	Donheffner	Discusses the definition of “abandoned” and points out the work which has gone into the bill to ensure due process of notification.
105	Rep. Greenlick	Further comments on those vessels which appear abandoned, but are not.
110	Donheffner	Further discusses the issue of abandonment.
125	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on HB 3628, and opens a work session on HB 3628.
HB 3628 – WORK SESSION
130	Rep. Dingfelder	MOTION: Moves HB 3628 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.
135		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Brown	The motion CARRIES.
140	Chair Brown	Closes the work session on HB 3628, and opens a public hearing on SB 83A.
SB 83A – PUBLIC HEARING
145	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 83A. Introduces written testimony in support of SB 83 (EXHIBIT F) from Senator Bruce Starr.
155	Jim Whitty	Oregon Department of Transportation; Road Users Fee Task Force (RUFTF). Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in support of SB 83A. Introduces proposed –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT H) drafted to address the personal privacy concern of the bill. Expresses the task force’s wish that the subsequent referral to Ways and Means be rescinded due to its lack of fiscal impact.
300	Chair Brown	Clarifies language in the written testimony.
305	Whitty	Acknowledges the clarification.
310	Rep. Dingfelder	Comments on the Senate debate regarding the issue. Comments on the effective implementation of congestion based pricing.
335	Rep. Greenlick	Clarifies specific language in the –A2 amendments.
345	Whitty	Comments on the language in question and further clarifies the purpose and intent of the proposed –A2 amendments are to avoid any and all concerns regarding personal privacy.
365	Rep. Greenlick	Further questions the language.
375	John Watt	Road User Fee Task Force. Offers a clarification of the language in question, and offers further testimony in support of SB 83 A.
TAPE 94, B
030	Chair Brown	Clarifies specific language in the bill.
035	Whitty	Discusses the language in question.
040	Chair Brown	Asks how the fee can be assessed if there is no record kept.
045	Whitty	Explains the process for time stamping and fee assessment.
050	Rep. Greenlick	Offers his understanding of the issue.
060	Whitty	Concurs with Rep. Greenlick’s interpretation of the bill.
065	Watt	Points out that only those vehicles which volunteer for the pilot program would have their information collected.
075	Chair Brown	Expresses the concerns of the rural community of being charged more than those in urban areas.
080	Watt	Points out that currently under the gas tax, there are higher costs with increased mileage.
085	Whitty	Concurs with Mr. Watt, but points out that SB 83 A only deals with the congestion based pricing.
090	Rep. Zauner	Clarifies that the bill is just to allow the RUFTF to test the congestion based pricing.
100	Rep. Gilman	Asks whether there would be any differential dealing with vehicle weight.
105	Whitty	Explains that for the purpose of the simplicity in the pilot study, there will be no accounting for weight, but points out that this would be a future issue.
120	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks why there is a referral to Ways and Means.
125	Whitty	Points out that ODOT did a fiscal impact analysis and there was no fiscal impact.
130	Watt	Points out the constitutional issue.
135	Whitty	Explains that the project is already funded.
140	Rep. Greenlick	Expresses his wish to see an amendment to further clarify the privacy issue.
142	Chair Brown	Asks whether Rep. Greenlick would be willing to work on this issue.
145	Rep. Greenlick	Indicates he would be so willing.
150	Chair Brown	Expresses his wish to see the bill rescheduled.
155	Janet Adkins	Committee Administrator. Enters into the record, written testimony (EXHIBIT I) from Senator Bruce Starr regarding SB 179A.
160	Chair Brown	Closes the public hearing on SB 83A, and adjourns the meeting at 9:46 a.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – SB 179A, sample signage, Staff, 1 p.

B – SB 179A, sample fine matrix, Staff, 1 p.

C – SB 179A, written testimony, Christy Monson, 2 pp.

D – SB 179 A, -A2 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

E – HB 3628, written testimony, Don Mann, 2 pp.

F – SB 83 A, written testimony, Sen. Bruce Starr, 2 pp.

G – SB 83 A, written testimony, Jim Whitty, 2 pp.

H – SB 83 A, -A2 amendments, Jim Whitty, 1 p.

I – SB 179 A, written testimony, Sen. Bruce Starr, 1 p.