HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

April 30, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  94 – 95

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            SB 179A – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 3628 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 83A – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 94, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls meeting to order at 8:40 a.m., and opens a public hearing on SB 179A.

SB 179A – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Rep. Greenlick

Updates the committee on the status and intent of SB 179A, with reference to sample signage (EXHIBIT A) and sample fine matrix (EXHIBIT B).

040

Sen. Beyer

Senate District 9. Offers testimony in favor of SB 179A with reference to relative situations in his district.

085

Chair Brown

Concurs with Sen. Beyer on the effectiveness of blinking lights in school zones.

100

D. Bridges

Oregon Forest Products Transportation Association. Offers testimony in support of SB 179A.

130

Christy Monson

League of Oregon Cities. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT C) regarding SB 179A.

140

Chair Brown

Clarifies the $7200.00 figure offered in testimony.

145

Rep. Dingfelder

Points out the figure in question is an average for a city the size of Redmond, Oregon.

150

Rep. Beyer

Asks whether the bill would require the cities to install flashing lights around schools.

155

Monson

Explains that the bill would not require such action by the city, and further discusses the issue.

160

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 179 A, and opens a work session on SB 179 A.

SB 179 A- WORK SESSION

165

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves SB 179A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

165

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Points out that the committee adopted the proposed –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT D) during the last meeting (04/28/2003). Clarifies that those amendments are technical amendments requested by Legislative Counsel.

175

Rep. Gilman

Points out his intent to vote Aye on the bill as amended.

180

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

GILMAN will lead discussion on the floor.

190

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 179A, and opens a public hearing on HB 3628.

HB 3628 – PUBLIC HEARING

195

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3628, pointing out that the bill contains the intent of HB 2685 which had an inadequate relating clause for the scope of the bill.

250

Ken Armstrong

Oregon Ports Group. Offer testimony in support of HB 3628.

270

Don Mann

Port of Newport. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 3628.

335

Chair Brown

Refers to a specific situation, and asks whether this fund could be used to address such a situation.

340

Mann

Explains that the fund would cover such a situation, and further discusses the fund.

345

Chair Brown

Asks about the scope of the problem.

350

Armstrong

Discusses the fiscal and geographic scope of the problem.

365

Paul Donheffner

Oregon Marine Board. Offers testimony in support of HB 3628.

375

Rep. Dingfelder

Mentions that a portion of the Columbia River is within her district. Asks about specific language in the bill regarding the proposed fee increase for floating homes.

385

Donheffner

Explains that floating homes have a one time title fee, so the increase is not so significant.

TAPE 95, A

010

Rep. Dingfelder

Expresses her relief that these abandoned vessels will no longer be burned as a means of removal, asks whether local governments would be eligible to access the removal fund.

015

Donheffner

Explains that the original bill limited access to the fund to Ports, but subsequent amendments would give access to local governmental agencies.

020

Phil Donovan

Northwest Stealheaders. Offers testimony regarding HB 3628.

045

Janet Adkins

Asks whether there is any estimate as to how much would be raised in a biennium.

050

Donheffner

Explains the revenue would be around $200,000 per biennium, and discusses the estimated revenue sources.

070

Chair Brown

Asks how the state would be able to identify every boathouse.

075

Donheffner

Explains that both floating homes and boat houses are currently titled.

080

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies the definition of “abandoned” in the bill.

090

Donheffner

Discusses the definition of “abandoned” and points out the work which has gone into the bill to ensure due process of notification.

105

Rep. Greenlick

Further comments on those vessels which appear abandoned, but are not.

110

Donheffner

Further discusses the issue of abandonment.

125

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3628, and opens a work session on HB 3628.

HB 3628 – WORK SESSION

130

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves HB 3628 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

135

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

140

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 3628, and opens a public hearing on SB 83A.

SB 83A – PUBLIC HEARING

145

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 83A. Introduces written testimony in support of SB 83 (EXHIBIT F) from Senator Bruce Starr.

155

Jim Whitty

Oregon Department of Transportation; Road Users Fee Task Force (RUFTF). Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in support of SB 83A. Introduces proposed –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT H) drafted to address the personal privacy concern of the bill. Expresses the task force’s wish that the subsequent referral to Ways and Means be rescinded due to its lack of fiscal impact.

300

Chair Brown

Clarifies language in the written testimony.

305

Whitty

Acknowledges the clarification.

310

Rep. Dingfelder

Comments on the Senate debate regarding the issue. Comments on the effective implementation of congestion based pricing.

335

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies specific language in the –A2 amendments.

345

Whitty

Comments on the language in question and further clarifies the purpose and intent of the proposed –A2 amendments are to avoid any and all concerns regarding personal privacy.

365

Rep. Greenlick

Further questions the language.

375

John Watt

Road User Fee Task Force. Offers a clarification of the language in question, and offers further testimony in support of SB 83 A.

TAPE 94, B

030

Chair Brown

Clarifies specific language in the bill.

035

Whitty

Discusses the language in question.

040

Chair Brown

Asks how the fee can be assessed if there is no record kept.

045

Whitty

Explains the process for time stamping and fee assessment.

050

Rep. Greenlick

Offers his understanding of the issue.

060

Whitty

Concurs with Rep. Greenlick’s interpretation of the bill.

065

Watt

Points out that only those vehicles which volunteer for the pilot program would have their information collected.

075

Chair Brown

Expresses the concerns of the rural community of being charged more than those in urban areas.

080

Watt

Points out that currently under the gas tax, there are higher costs with increased mileage.

085

Whitty

Concurs with Mr. Watt, but points out that SB 83 A only deals with the congestion based pricing.

090

Rep. Zauner

Clarifies that the bill is just to allow the RUFTF to test the congestion based pricing.

100

Rep. Gilman

Asks whether there would be any differential dealing with vehicle weight.

105

Whitty

Explains that for the purpose of the simplicity in the pilot study, there will be no accounting for weight, but points out that this would be a future issue.

120

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks why there is a referral to Ways and Means.

125

Whitty

Points out that ODOT did a fiscal impact analysis and there was no fiscal impact.

130

Watt

Points out the constitutional issue.

135

Whitty

Explains that the project is already funded.

140

Rep. Greenlick

Expresses his wish to see an amendment to further clarify the privacy issue.

142

Chair Brown

Asks whether Rep. Greenlick would be willing to work on this issue.

145

Rep. Greenlick

Indicates he would be so willing.

150

Chair Brown

Expresses his wish to see the bill rescheduled.

155

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Enters into the record, written testimony (EXHIBIT I) from Senator Bruce Starr regarding SB 179A.

160

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 83A, and adjourns the meeting at 9:46 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 179A, sample signage, Staff, 1 p.

B – SB 179A, sample fine matrix, Staff, 1 p.

C – SB 179A, written testimony, Christy Monson, 2 pp.

D – SB 179 A, -A2 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

E – HB 3628, written testimony, Don Mann, 2 pp.

F – SB 83 A, written testimony, Sen. Bruce Starr, 2 pp.

G – SB 83 A, written testimony, Jim Whitty, 2 pp.

H – SB 83 A, -A2 amendments, Jim Whitty, 1 p.

I – SB 179 A, written testimony, Sen. Bruce Starr, 1 p.