HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

May 09, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:30 AM Tapes  103 – 104

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            SB 787 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 771 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 508 A – Public Hearing

                                                SB 596 A – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 103, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls meeting to order at 9:34 a.m., and opens a public hearing on SB 787A.

SB 787A – PUBLIC HEARING

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 787A, with reference to the issued fiscal statement (EXHIBIT A).

030

Dave Barrows

Segway Corp. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT B) in support of SB 787 A.

070

Rep. Greenlick

Asks what rights a disabled person with an assisted mobility device has.

075

Barrows

Explains that the definition in the bill applies only to the Segway.

080

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether there would be any insurance needed.

085

Barrows

Explains that insurance would not be required.

090

Rep. Mabrey

Clarifies that Mr. Barrows is for the bill as currently written, and not in support of the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C).

100

Andrea Fogue

League of Oregon Cities. Offers testimony in support of SB 787 A, with reference to submitted poll (EXHIBIT D) of Oregon cities.

120

Rep. Dingfelder

Expresses concern for allowing any vehicle on the sidewalk due to the safety issues.

130

Fogue

Explains that this was not part of the discussion because there is no information regarding the safety issues with the new technology represented by the Segway.

145

Rep. Mabrey

Points out his personal experience with the Segway, pointing out his perception of the vehicle’s safety. Asks whether there would be the option for the cities to regulate the speed of the Segways.

155

Fogue

Explains that there would be the ability to limit speed.

165

Susan Schneider

City of Portland. Offers testimony in support of SB 787A.

175

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether the city of Portland currently regulates motorized personal vehicles.

185

Schneider

Indicates that she is unaware if those devices are regulated.

190

Rep. Dingfelder

Discusses her personal experience with these vehicles, indicating that they are not restricted from sidewalks.

195

Lara Smith

Segway Corp. Discusses the regulations of various personal motorized vehicles.

210

Chair Brown

Recesses the public hearing on SB 787A, and open a public hearing on SB 771A.

SB 771A – PUBLIC HEARING

215

Senator Bruce Starr

Senate District 15. Offers testimony in support of SB 771A.

300

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the Governor is in favor of SB 771A.

310

Sen. Starr

Comments on his conversations and work with the Governor which indicates his support.

315

Rep. Greenlick

Asks about some critiques of the bill.

320

Sen. Starr

Comments on that dissention.

330

Rep. Mabrey

Offers an example in his district which illustrates the importance and need for SB 771A.

375

Janet Adkins

Enters into record written testimony (EXHIBIT E) from John Rosenberger of the Oregon Department of Transportation.

380

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 771A, and opens a work session on SB 771A.

SB 771A – WORK SESSION

385

Rep. Zauner

MOTION:  Moves SB 771A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

390

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

395

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves SB 771A be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

400

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 771A, and reopens the public hearing on SB 787A.

SB 787A – PUBLIC HEARING

405

Tom O’Connor

Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities. Offers testimony in support of SB 787A with reference to a submitted letter (EXHIBIT F).

430

Chair Brown

Clarifies the proposed use of the Segway Vehicle.

TAPE 104, A

030

Troy Costales

Oregon Department of Transportation, Transportation Safety Division. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in support of SB 787A, with reference to submitted table (EXHIBIT H).

060

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks why the Segway were kept off of sidewalks in SB 173 (2001).

065

Costales

Discusses the issues which were addressed by SB 173 (2001).

070

Rep. Zauner

Asks why other states have addressed this issue before Oregon.

075

Costales

Indicates that he is not sure.

080

Dave Barrows

Segway Corp. Explains the timing issues which required that the issues in SB 787A not be addressed until this legislative session.

090

Rep. Greenlick

Points out that Ms. Vanderslice is one of his constituents.

095

Ellen Vanderslice

Willamette Pedestrian Coalition. Offers testimony in opposition to SB 787A, but in favor of the proposed -3 amendments.

160

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 787A, and opens a work session on SB 787A.

SB 787A – WORK SESSION

165

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 787-3 amendments dated 04/01/03.

170

Janet Adkins

Points out that the -3 amendments amend the original bill, while the

-A7 amendments (EXHIBIT I) would amend the A-engrossed version currently before the committee.

175

Rep. Dingfelder

Rescinds the motion to adopt the -3 amendments to SB 787A.

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 787A-7 amendments dated       05/09/03.

185

Rep. Greenlick

Points out his support for the –A7 amendments.

190

Rep. Mabrey

Points out the number of cities in Oregon, and indicates his opposition to the –A7 amendments.

210

Rep. Zauner

Expresses his opposition to the –A7 amendments, and discusses the possible Segway use in his district.

220

 

VOTE:  2-4

AYE:               2 - Dingfelder, Greenlick

NAY:               4 - Gilman, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown

EXCUSED:     1 - Beyer

 

Chair Brown

The motion FAILS.

225

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves SB 787A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

230

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Beyer (Aye vote recorded later: Tape 104, #235)

 

Chair

The motion CARRIES.

REP. GREENLICK will lead discussion on the floor.

235

Rep. Brown

MOTION:  Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BEYER to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the MOTION:  Moves SB 787A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

240

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 787A, and opens a public hearing on SB 596A.

SB 596 A – PUBLIC HEARING

245

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 596A.

285

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that specific language in the bill would excluded ODOT employees from the protections allowed to police officers by the bill.

290

Adkins

Acknowledges, recalling that the original bill included ODOT employees but that inclusion was amended out of the bill on the Senate side.

295

Rep. Greenlick

Points out that the Oregon Department of Transportation employees are often the first on the scene of an accident and expresses his wish to see an amendment which would re-include ODOT employees.

305

John Raichl

Clatsop County Sheriff. Offers testimony in support of SB 596A.

345

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the citation would be issued before or after the vehicles are moved.

355

Raichl

Explains that often there is no police presence at the scene of an accident. Discusses the ways in which fault is determined.

375

Chair Brown

Asks about the severity of the violation.

380

John Powell

Oregon State Sheriffs Association. Points out that this is the existing penalty in statute. Addresses Rep. Greenlick’s question regarding the removal of ODOT employees from the bill.

TAPE 103, B

005

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that Mr. Powell is saying that ODOT employees currently have the authority to clear roads, while police officers do not have that authority.

010

Powell

Explains that, while the police currently have the ability to remove vehicles from the road, SB 596A addresses the liability issue.

015

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies ODOT’s liability is currently protected.

020

Powell

Explains that he does know whether ODOT’s liability is protected.

025

Chair Brown

Clarifies specific language in the bill.

030

Powell

Explains that they would not object for changing the language in question.

035

Rep. Greenlick

Points out that the “must” might need to be changed.

040

Janet Adkins

Comments on the language in question.

050

Rep. Dingfelder

Points out that the “as soon as possible” language would allow some leeway on this issue.

055

Powell

Expresses his willingness to amend the bill clarifying the language.

065

Chair Brown

Asks the Oregon Department of Transportation to address the issue.

070

Doug Tindal

Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers testimony regarding HB 596.

095

Larry Campbell

American Automobile Association. Offers testimony regarding HB 596.

105

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 596 and expresses the need to carry the bill over until the next meeting. Opens a public hearing on SB 508 A.

SB 508 – PUBLIC HEARING

110

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 508 A, and adjourns the meeting at 10:37 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 787 A, fiscal impact statement, Staff, 1 p.

B – SB 787 A, written testimony, Dave Barrows, 2 pp.

C – SB 787 A, -3 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

D – SB 787 A, submitted poll, Andrea Fogue, 1 p.

E – SB 771 A, written testimony, John Rosenberger, 1 p.

F – SB 787 A, submitted letter, Tom O’Connor, 1 p.

G – SB 787A, written testimony, Troy Costales, 1 p.

H – SB 787A, submitted table, Troy Costales, 3 pp.

I – SB 787A, -A7 amendments, Staff, 1 p.