HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

May 14, 2003 Hearing Room 357

8:00 AM Tapes  105 – 106

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. John Mabrey Vice-Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

Rep. Cliff Zauner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            SB 596A – Work Session

                                                SB 549A – Public Hearing

                                                SB 83A – Work Session                                               

                                                HB 2217 – Work Session

                                                SB 508A – Work Session

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 105, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls meeting to order at 8:10 a.m., and opens a work session on SB 596A.

SB 596A – WORK SESSION

005

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 596A, and the proposed –A3 amendments (EXHIBIT A).

030

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies the effects on statute of the proposed –A3 amendments.

035

Adkins

Further comments on the effects of the –A3 amendments.

040

John Powell

Oregon State Sheriffs Association. Indicates his groups support for the –A3 amendments.

045

Larry Campbell

American Automobile Association. Indicates his groups support for the –A3 amendments.

050

Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 596A-3 amendments dated 05/13/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

055

 Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves SB 596A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

060

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair

The motion CARRIES.

065

Rep. Greenlick

MOTION:  Moves SB 596A be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

070

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 596A, and opens a public hearing on SB 549A.

SB 549A – PUBLIC HEARING

075

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 549A, with reference to the issued fiscal impact statement (EXHIBIT B), and issued revenue impact statement (EXHIBIT C).

085

Olivia Clark

TriMet. Offers written testimony and packet (EXHIBIT D) in support of SB 549A, with reference to submitted news article (EXHIBIT E).

110

Fred Hansen

TriMet. Offers testimony in support of SB 549A.

200

Rep. Greenlick

Indicates his support for the bill, but questions the amendments which were applied on the Senate side.

205

Hansen

Comments on the Senate amendments to SB 549.

210

Rep. Dingfelder

Points out her constituents’ support for TriMet. Clarifies that there has not been a rate increase since 1969.

220

Hansen

Discusses the history of the rate caps which were implemented on the payroll tax.

235

Lynn Lundquist

Oregon Business Association. Offers testimony in support of SB 549A.

285

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the restaurant association still opposes the bill.

290

Lundquist

Explains that he does not know.

295

Rep. Zauner

Asks what happens if during the ten year phase-in, after two years there is an economic downturn.

300

Hansen

Comments on the situation presented by Rep. Zauner.

305

Rep. Mabrey

Clarifies the revenue impact of the bill.

320

Hansen

Acknowledges, and comments on that revenue impact.

330

Rep. Mabrey

Clarifies the intent of the bill.

335

Rep. Zauner

Asks about the Senate vote on the bill.

340

Hansen

Comments on the Senate vote.

350

Linda Lynch

Lane Transit District (LTD). Offers written testimony packet (EXHIBIT F) in support of SB 549A.

TAPE 106, A

005

Mike Salsgiver

Portland Business Alliance. Offers testimony in support of SB 549A.

035

Rep. Beyer

Asks for Ms. Lynch to address where LTD is with the rate.

045

Lynch

Indicates that LTD is at the cap with their rate, and further discusses the LTD rate history.

050

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether LTD should be at the top of the cap in light of the recent economic downturn.

055

Lynch

Points out the business groups which support the bill even considering the current economic climate.

060

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the cap has ever gone down.

065

Lynch

Explains that the cap has not changed since 1969.

070

John Charles

Cascade Policy Institute. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in opposition to SB 549A.

225

Rep. Greenlick

Comments on the arguments offered by Mr. Charles. Asks why local Portland businesses support TriMet.

240

Charles

Discusses his research regarding Rose City Transit, and comments taxation of businesses.

245

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that Mr. Charles is not speaking for the business community.

250

Charles

Acknowledges, that he does not represent the business community, and points out that his group is a free market think tank.

255

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that Mr. Charles group then would be against the bill because it is a government enterprise.

260

Charles

Explains that he is opposed to placing the funding of TriMet on the businesses, and further discusses the funding issue.

270

Rep. Gilman

Clarifies that Mr. Charles proposes to eliminate the “free zone.” Points out those benefits of the free zone.

280

Charles

Expresses his concerns with the “free zone” and outlines the problems it creates as he sees it.

305

Jeff Carlson

Iron Workers, Local 29. Offers testimony in support of SB 549A.

355

Chair Brown

Asks that Mr. Hansen address the concerns raised by Mr. Charles.

360

Hansen

Points out that TriMet is not apart of the PERS program, and further discusses TriMet’s benefit program.

TAPE 105, B

005

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on SB 549A, and opens a work session on SB 83A.

SB 83A – WORK SESSION

010

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 83A, and introduces the proposed –A3 amendments (EXHIBIT H).

015

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 83A-3 amendments dated 05/01/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

020

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves SB 83A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

 

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 83A, and opens a work session on HB 2217.

HB 2217 – WORK SESSION

050

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 2217.

060

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks how much the federal funding in question is.

065

Chair Brown

Indicates the federal funding as $4.8 million per biennium.

070

Adkins

Continues with the description of the issue, and introduces the proposed -2 amendments (EXHIBIT I).

072

Chair Brown

Points out that this would put into statute what the department currently practices.

075

Rep. Greenlick

Asks whether the exemption for “intrastate commerce” created by the amendments would still place the federal funding in question.

080

Adkins

Comments on the language in question, explaining that the federal funding would be safe.

085

Rep. Greenlick

Further clarifies the possible risk to the federal funds.

090

Adkins

Acknowledges the clarification.

095

Gregg Dal Ponte

Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers testimony in support of HB 2217 and the proposed -2 amendments.

105

Chair Brown

Discusses the recent debate over the issue, clarifies that the agreement which has been reached with the farm interests would divert the funding to the State Police rather than ODOT.

110

Dal Ponte

Discusses the accounting issue.

120

Jean Wilkinson

Oregon Farm Bureau. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 2217, but in favor of the proposed -2 amendments.

145

Rep. Zauner

Asks whether the farmers will ever be comfortable with the bill.

150

Wilkinson

Points out that they will have to become comfortable, and further discusses the issue.

160

Rep. Beyer

Clarifies that Oregon is the only state which has not accepted this change. Asks Ms. Wilkinson if she has been in contact with the farm interests from other states regarding the affects on them due to compliance.

175

Wilkinson

Explains that she has not talked with any other states, but further discusses the issue.

185

Chair Brown

Thanks Ms. Wilkinson for her testimony. Asks Mr. Dal Ponte to address the time frame of implementing the new regulations.

190

Dal Ponte

Points out that the bill does have an emergency clause which makes it effective upon passage, but comments on the extension of implementation until after the fall harvest.

210

Rep. Zauner

Thanks Mr. Dal Ponte for his work with the farmers in his district.

215

Dal Ponte

Acknowledges.

220

Sen. Chair Brown

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2217-2 amendments dated 05/13/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

225

Rep. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2217 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

230

Rep. Mabrey

Points out his problems with intricacies of the issues on both sides, but expresses his support for the bill.

265

Rep. Gilman

Comments on his problems with the bill and expresses his intent to vote No on the bill.

275

Rep. Beyer

Agrees that farm vehicles do represent a small safety concern, but expresses her concerns for losing the federal money. Indicates her support for the bill.

290

Chair Brown

Comments on the inspection process, and their impact on the farm industry, and the other issues at hand.

315

Rep. Greenlick

Comments on the Oregon agriculture industry and economy.

345

 

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Beyer, Dingfelder, Greenlick, Mabrey, Zauner, Brown

NAY:               1 - Gilman

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

355

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2217, and opens a work session on SB 508A.

SB 508A – WORK SESSION

360

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of SB 508A, and the proposed –A2 amendments (EXHIBIT J).

400

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation. Offers testimony in support of SB 508A.

TAPE 106, B

035

Chair Brown

Asks Ms. Taylor to address the changes in the -2 amendments.

040

Taylor

Comments on the affects of, and reasoning for the -2 amendments.

050

Rep. Greenlick

Asks for a clarification of which type of plate is considered in the -2 amendments.

055

Taylor

Discusses which plates are included.

060

Rep. Greenlick

Asks how many types of plates there are.

061

Taylor

Comments on the different plates.

065

Rep. Greenlick

Clarifies that the current number of plates would be the maximum.

066

Taylor

Acknowledges, explaining that to create a new plate would require the elimination of a current one.

070

Adkins

Comments on the statutory changes.

075

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 508A-2 amendments dated 05/08/03.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

080

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves SB 508A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

085

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

090

Rep. Dingfelder

MOTION:  Moves SB 508A be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on SB 508A.

095

Committee

Discusses the upcoming schedule for the committee.

100

Chair Brown

Adjourns the meeting at 9:39 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 596A, -A3 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

B – SB 549A, fiscal impact statement, Staff, 1 p.

C – SB 549A, revenue impact statement, Staff, 1 p.

D – SB 549A, written testimony packet, Olivia Clark, 15 pp.

E – SB 549A, submitted news article, Olivia Clark, 2 pp.

F – SB 549A, written testimony packet, Linda Lynch, 4 pp.

G – SB 549A, written testimony, John Charles, 7 pp.

H – SB 83A, -A3 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

I – HB 2217, -2 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

J – SB 508A, -2 amendments, Staff, 3 pp.