HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER

 

 

January 30, 2003   Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M.   Tapes 9 – 11

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair

Rep. Linda Flores

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Mike Schaufler

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:            Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Pete Test, Administrator

Mike Reiley, Administrative Support

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            Informational Meeting – Oregon Plan Overview

    

Monitoring the Oregon Plan

-Kelly Moore, Monitoring Policy Advisor, Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board (OWEB)

-Bruce McIntosh, Conservation and Restoration Program Manager, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW)

-Rick Hafele, Bio-Monitoring Program Manager, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ)

 

Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST)

-Dr. William Percy, Co-Chair

 

Agency Relationships to the Oregon Plan

-Oregon DEQ

     Stephanie Hallock, Director

-Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF)

     Ted Lorensen, Assistant State Forester

     Jo Emrick, Aquatic Policy Analyst

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 9, A

004

Vice-Chair Kropf

Calls meeting to order at 8:36 am. Opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

041

Kelly Moore

Monitoring Policy Advisor, Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board (OWEB). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony regarding Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT A).

133

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks about monitoring assessment consistency.

139

Moore

Explains monitoring assessment.

167

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about monitoring.

172

Moore

Explains monitoring.

178

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about monitoring protocol.

184

Moore

Responds that it is part of process.

187

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about accuracy of information collected.

192

Moore

Explains information collection.

204

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about collection of baseline information.

217

Moore

Explains information collection and analysis.

232

Rep. Kruse

Asks about federal agencies’ data collection.

238

Moore

Explains federal agencies’ data collection.

250

Rep. Kruse

Asks about stream temperature protocol.

256

Moore

States that he can obtain it.

258

Rep. Schaufler

Asks how habitat protection success is determined.

270

Moore

Explains success of habitat and recovery.

294

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about management actions and effect on salmon propagation.

304

Moore

Explains actions and effects.

318

Bruce McIntosh

Acting Assistant Conservation and Recovery Program Manager, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony on Oregon Plan Monitoring (EXHIBIT B).

TAPE 10, A

023

Rick Hafele

Manager, Bio-Monitoring Section, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony regarding Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT C).

090

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about state sharing information with landowners.

100

Hafele

Responds that landowners are contacted with information.

108

McIntosh

Concurs.

114

Moore

Emphasizes need for collected data to be interpretable to everyone.

137

Dr. William Percy

Co-Chair, Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST). Offers history of IMST. Explains how research is conducted and data is analyzed.

323

Rep. Kruse

Discusses salmon survival.

330

Dr. Percy

Responds regarding salmon survival.

335

Rep. Kruse

Describes proper intent of management activities.

345

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about definition of recovery.

348

Dr. Percy

Answers that a report is forthcoming.

355

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about time frame.

356

Dr. Percy

Explains time frame for report.

361

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about impacts of predation.

368

Dr. Percy

Explains predation impacts.

402

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks if study is continuing.

403

Dr. Percy

Responds that there are ongoing studies.

427

Rep. Kruse

Asks about pinniped populations and recovery.

TAPE 9, B

017

Dr. Percy

Explains recovery.

028

Rep. Kruse

Asks how much historical data exists regarding predation.

049

McIntosh

States that Robin Brown from ODFW is best to answer.

070

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about management of species throughout their lifecycles.

082

McIntosh

Explains management work done by ODFW.

094

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks how successful work will be in managing species.

096

McIntosh

Responds that work is ongoing.

103

Vice-Chair Kropf

Discusses his legislation proposed during 2001 session to petition federal government to allow Oregon to control pinniped populations for salmon recovery.

122

McIntosh

Responds that ODFW is open to working on such issues.

132

Stephanie Hallock

Director, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ). Offers overview of DEQ and explains relationship of DEQ to Oregon Plan. Submits and explains prepared map and letter regarding Hawes Decision (EXHIBIT D).

318

Rep. Tomei

Asks for clarification of Hawes Decision.

322

Hallock

Explains Hawes case and implications.

356

Rep. Tomei

Asks for further clarification of Hawes case.

360

Hallock

Offers further clarification.

371

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks about Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) and impacts.

404

Hallock

Explains work on TMDL implementation.

414

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks if there are any basins where TMDL process has been completed.

419

Hallock

Explains process of TMDL implementation.

442

Rep. Kruse

Asks about Hawes cases and impacts.

TAPE 10, B

012

Hallock

Refers to later hearing discussing TMDL and 303d listing.

027

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about the specific complaint of Hawes Decision.

039

Hallock

Responds.

048

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about non-point source regulation.

056

Hallock

Explains that it is a grant program.

057

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks how it is distributed.

061

Mike Llewelyn

Administrator, Water Quality Division, DEQ. Explains how money is distributed.

080

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks about amount of money allocated for process.

082

Llewelyn

Responds yes.

083

Rep. Kruse

Asks if amount is designated.

085

Llewelyn

Responds yes.

088

Rep. Tomei

Asks for example of funded projects.

089

Llewelyn

Provides examples of funded projects.

103

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks for list of funded projects.

113

Ted Lorensen

Assistant State Forester, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF). Submits and summarizes presentation of ODF’s role in Oregon Plan and summary of Hinkle Creek project (EXHIBIT E).

212

Rep. Tomei

Asks for clarification of assessment process.

213

Lorensen

Explains assessment process. Continues presentation.

280

Jo Emrick

Aquatic Policy Advisor, ODF. Continues presentation.

TAPE 11, A

024

Rep. Flores

Asks for example of “unintended consequences.”

028

Emrick

Provides example.

043

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about role of federal agency.

050

Emrick

Explains relationship of ODF to federal agencies.

059

Lorensen

Explains philosophical differences regarding agencies.

067

Rep. Schaufler

Asks for clarification.

069

Lorensen

Offers clarification.

081

Vice-Chair Kropf

Asks if strategic plan will change fire issues.

086

Lorensen

Explains fire protection on public lands.

095

Rep. Kruse

Asks about President’s fire management plans.

098

Lorensen

Explains how ODF relates to Forest Service and fire management plan.

111

Rep. Kruse

Expresses additional interest in implementation of President’s fire management plan.

118

Vice-Chair Kropf

Discusses President’s fire plans.

137

Lorensen

States that he could provide presentation regarding fire seasons.

149

Vice-Chair Kropf

Closes informational meeting. Adjourns meeting at 10:36 am.

Prepared testimony submitted by Michael Carrier, Director, Oregon Parks and Recreation Department (OPRD) (EXHIBIT F).

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Informational, prepared information, Kelly Moore, 67 pp

B – Informational, prepared testimony, Bruce McIntosh, 2 pp

C – Informational, prepared information, Rick Hafele, 2 pp

D – Informational, prepared information, Stephanie Hallock, 3 pp

E – Informational, prepared information, Ted Lorensen, 19 pp

F – Informational, prepared information, Michael Carrier, 2 pp