HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER

January 30, 2003 Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M. Tapes 9 – 11

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair

Rep. Linda Flores

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Mike Schaufler

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

STAFF PRESENT: Pete Test, Administrator

Mike Reiley, Administrative Support

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Informational Meeting – Oregon Plan Overview

Monitoring the Oregon Plan

-Kelly Moore, Monitoring Policy Advisor, Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board (OWEB)

-Bruce McIntosh, Conservation and Restoration Program Manager, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW)

-Rick Hafele, Bio-Monitoring Program Manager, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ)

Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST)

-Dr. William Percy, Co-Chair

Agency Relationships to the Oregon Plan

-Oregon DEQ

Stephanie Hallock, Director

-Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF)

Ted Lorensen, Assistant State Forester

Jo Emrick, Aquatic Policy Analyst

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 9, A
004	Vice-Chair Kropf	Calls meeting to order at 8:36 am. Opens informational meeting.
INFORMATIONAL MEETING
041	Kelly Moore	Monitoring Policy Advisor, Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board (OWEB). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony regarding Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT A).
133	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks about monitoring assessment consistency.
139	Moore	Explains monitoring assessment.
167	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about monitoring.
172	Moore	Explains monitoring.
178	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about monitoring protocol.
184	Moore	Responds that it is part of process.
187	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about accuracy of information collected.
192	Moore	Explains information collection.
204	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about collection of baseline information.
217	Moore	Explains information collection and analysis.
232	Rep. Kruse	Asks about federal agencies’ data collection.
238	Moore	Explains federal agencies’ data collection.
250	Rep. Kruse	Asks about stream temperature protocol.
256	Moore	States that he can obtain it.
258	Rep. Schaufler	Asks how habitat protection success is determined.
270	Moore	Explains success of habitat and recovery.
294	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about management actions and effect on salmon propagation.
304	Moore	Explains actions and effects.
318	Bruce McIntosh	Acting Assistant Conservation and Recovery Program Manager, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony on Oregon Plan Monitoring (EXHIBIT B).
TAPE 10, A
023	Rick Hafele	Manager, Bio-Monitoring Section, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony regarding Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT C).
090	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about state sharing information with landowners.
100	Hafele	Responds that landowners are contacted with information.
108	McIntosh	Concurs.
114	Moore	Emphasizes need for collected data to be interpretable to everyone.
137	Dr. William Percy	Co-Chair, Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST). Offers history of IMST. Explains how research is conducted and data is analyzed.
323	Rep. Kruse	Discusses salmon survival.
330	Dr. Percy	Responds regarding salmon survival.
335	Rep. Kruse	Describes proper intent of management activities.
345	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about definition of recovery.
348	Dr. Percy	Answers that a report is forthcoming.
355	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about time frame.
356	Dr. Percy	Explains time frame for report.
361	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about impacts of predation.
368	Dr. Percy	Explains predation impacts.
402	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks if study is continuing.
403	Dr. Percy	Responds that there are ongoing studies.
427	Rep. Kruse	Asks about pinniped populations and recovery.
TAPE 9, B
017	Dr. Percy	Explains recovery.
028	Rep. Kruse	Asks how much historical data exists regarding predation.
049	McIntosh	States that Robin Brown from ODFW is best to answer.
070	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about management of species throughout their lifecycles.
082	McIntosh	Explains management work done by ODFW.
094	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks how successful work will be in managing species.
096	McIntosh	Responds that work is ongoing.
103	Vice-Chair Kropf	Discusses his legislation proposed during 2001 session to petition federal government to allow Oregon to control pinniped populations for salmon recovery.
122	McIntosh	Responds that ODFW is open to working on such issues.
132	Stephanie Hallock	Director, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ). Offers overview of DEQ and explains relationship of DEQ to Oregon Plan. Submits and explains prepared map and letter regarding Hawes Decision (EXHIBIT D).
318	Rep. Tomei	Asks for clarification of Hawes Decision.
322	Hallock	Explains Hawes case and implications.
356	Rep. Tomei	Asks for further clarification of Hawes case.
360	Hallock	Offers further clarification.
371	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks about Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) and impacts.
404	Hallock	Explains work on TMDL implementation.
414	Rep. Dingfelder	Asks if there are any basins where TMDL process has been completed.
419	Hallock	Explains process of TMDL implementation.
442	Rep. Kruse	Asks about Hawes cases and impacts.
TAPE 10, B
012	Hallock	Refers to later hearing discussing TMDL and 303d listing.
027	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about the specific complaint of Hawes Decision.
039	Hallock	Responds.
048	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about non-point source regulation.
056	Hallock	Explains that it is a grant program.
057	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks how it is distributed.
061	Mike Llewelyn	Administrator, Water Quality Division, DEQ. Explains how money is distributed.
080	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks about amount of money allocated for process.
082	Llewelyn	Responds yes.
083	Rep. Kruse	Asks if amount is designated.
085	Llewelyn	Responds yes.
088	Rep. Tomei	Asks for example of funded projects.
089	Llewelyn	Provides examples of funded projects.
103	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks for list of funded projects.
113	Ted Lorensen	Assistant State Forester, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF). Submits and summarizes presentation of ODF’s role in Oregon Plan and summary of Hinkle Creek project (EXHIBIT E).
212	Rep. Tomei	Asks for clarification of assessment process.
213	Lorensen	Explains assessment process. Continues presentation.
280	Jo Emrick	Aquatic Policy Advisor, ODF. Continues presentation.
TAPE 11, A
024	Rep. Flores	Asks for example of “unintended consequences.”
028	Emrick	Provides example.
043	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about role of federal agency.
050	Emrick	Explains relationship of ODF to federal agencies.
059	Lorensen	Explains philosophical differences regarding agencies.
067	Rep. Schaufler	Asks for clarification.
069	Lorensen	Offers clarification.
081	Vice-Chair Kropf	Asks if strategic plan will change fire issues.
086	Lorensen	Explains fire protection on public lands.
095	Rep. Kruse	Asks about President’s fire management plans.
098	Lorensen	Explains how ODF relates to Forest Service and fire management plan.
111	Rep. Kruse	Expresses additional interest in implementation of President’s fire management plan.
118	Vice-Chair Kropf	Discusses President’s fire plans.
137	Lorensen	States that he could provide presentation regarding fire seasons.
149	Vice-Chair Kropf	Closes informational meeting. Adjourns meeting at 10:36 am.
Prepared testimony submitted by Michael Carrier, Director, Oregon Parks and Recreation Department (OPRD) (EXHIBIT F).

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – Informational, prepared information, Kelly Moore, 67 pp

B – Informational, prepared testimony, Bruce McIntosh, 2 pp

C – Informational, prepared information, Rick Hafele, 2 pp

D – Informational, prepared information, Stephanie Hallock, 3 pp

E – Informational, prepared information, Ted Lorensen, 19 pp

F – Informational, prepared information, Michael Carrier, 2 pp