HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER

February 11, 2003 Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M. Tapes 15 – 17

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair

Rep. Linda Flores

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Mike Schaufler

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair

STAFF PRESENT: Pete Test, Administrator

Mike Reiley, Administrative Support

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2033 – Work Session

Informational Meeting

Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife Update

Introduction – Ed Bowles

Native Fish Policy

Hatchery Policy

Predator Policy and Research – Robin Brown

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 15, A
003	Chair Jenson	Calls meeting to order at 8:37 am. Opens work session on HB 2033.
HB 2033 – WORK SESSION
015	Pete Test	Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2033.
020	Rep. Kruse	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2033-4 amendments dated 2/5/03 (EXHIBIT A).
025	Rep. Kruse	Thanks ODFW for their work on HB 2033.
		VOTE: 5-0 EXCUSED: 2 - Dingfelder, Kropf
	Chair Jenson	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
030	Rep. Kruse	MOTION: Moves HB 2033 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.
		VOTE: 5-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Dingfelder, Kropf
038	Chair Jenson	The motion CARRIES.
046	Chair Jenson	Closes work session on HB 2033. Opens informational meeting.
INFORMATIONAL MEETING
050	Ed Bowles	Fish Division Administrator, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW). Submits and summarizes presentation (EXHIBIT B).
068	Chair Jenson	Clarifies subject matter of presentations.
080	Bowles	Submits and summarizes prepared presentation
130	Bowles	Native Fish Conservation Policy
270	Chair Jenson	Asks about funding.
275	Bowles	Explains funding and continues presentation.
321	Rep. Kruse	Asks about de-listing.
333	Bowles	Explains sustainability.
373	Rep. Kruse	Asks about timeframe for NOAA fisheries.
377	Bowles	Explains that it depends on location.
387	Rep. Kruse	Asks if focus is on Coho.
390	Bowles	Responds that it is dependent on location.
404	Rep. Kruse	Would like further info on NOAA and state.
410	Bowles	Continues presentation.
TAPE 16, A
038	Chair Jenson	Asks about designation of area watersheds.
052	Bowles	Responds intention is biological.
091	Rep. Kruse	Asks for clarification about maps.
100	Bowles	Explains acclimation facilities.
108	Rep. Kruse	Asks about hatch boxes.
110	Bowles	Responds and continues presentation.
139	Rep. Schaufler	Asks for clarification of maps.
141	Bowles	Clarifies maps and continues presentation.
173	Chair Jenson	Asks for comment on March 2002 Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST) hatchery policy vs. native fish policy.
205	Bowles	Comments on IMST report.
237	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about treatment of hatchery fish.
246	Bowles	Responds that he will address it in Hatchery Policy presentation and begins presentation.
301	Rep. Kruse	Asks about difference between harvest objective and conservation objective.
320	Bowles	Explains difference between objectives.
363	Rep. Kruse	Asks follow-up about hatchery vs. wild fish.
388	Bowles	Responds.
396	Rep. Kruse	Asks about wild-wild crosses in hatcheries.
398	Bowles	Responds that it would blur the line between wild and hatchery fish.
TAPE 15, B
018	Rep. Kruse	Asks about behavior in hatchery vs. wild fish.
028	Bowles	Explains work done to address potential differences between hatchery and wild fish.
079	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about uses of hatchery fish.
092	Bowles	Explains how hatchery fish are intended to be used. Continues presentation.
153	Chair Jenson	Asks for clarification of Food share.
154	Bowles	Explains Food share program.
169	Rep. Kruse	Asks about exporting harvest hatchery industry and impacts on coastal economies.
180	Bowles	Explains that it is policy issue.
190	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about haploid and triploid fish.
195	Bowles	Explains.
200	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about concerns with outside fish.
205	Bowles	Explains concerns. Continues presentation.
262	Chair Jenson	Asks if fish policy would be adopted at ODFW workshop.
264	Bowles	Responds it would be up to discretion of those involved. Concludes presentation.
317	Rep. Kropf	Asks about other efforts to mimic nature in hatchery environment.
320	Bowles	Explains other efforts.
372	Rep. Kropf	Asks about Fall Creek site development.
376	Bowles	Explains issues relating to Fall Creek site development.
394	Chair Jenson	Notes difficulties regarding Fall Creek.
TAPE 16, B
001	Robin Brown	Marine Mammal Research Program Leader, ODFW. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony regarding Oregon Seals and Sea Lions (EXHIBIT C).
117	Rep. Kruse	Explains his legislation that would allow state to manage predators.
136	Brown	Explains laws and policies regarding state predator management.
175	Rep. Kruse	Notes impacts of taking pinniped.
185	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about conditioning of pinniped.
196	Brown	Explains pinniped conditioning.
222	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about pinniped relations to prey.
228	Brown	Explains pinniped and prey.
252	Rep. Kropf	Asks about overall stellar sea lion population.
256	Brown	Offers figures for population.
267	Rep. Kropf	Asks about stellar population range.
268	Brown	Explains population range.
272	Rep. Kropf	Asks about sustainable populations of sea lions.
276	Brown	Explains management techniques for sea lions.
303	Rep. Kropf	Asks about dams’ impact on pinniped predation.
312	Brown	Explains dams’ impacts on pinniped predation.
354	Rep. Kropf	Asks about protection measures at dams.
361	Brown	Explains measures implemented at dams.
371	Rep. Kropf	Asks about effectiveness.
374	Brown	Explains effectiveness.
393	Rep. Kropf	Asks about 1999 National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) study to Congress.
402	Brown	Explains study and impacts.
TAPE 17, A
011	Rep. Schaufler	Asks about acceptable loss for seals.
022	Brown	Explains regulations regarding predator management.
045	Rep. Schaufler	Comments that there is imbalance in protection of predators vs. fish.
048	Brown	Responds.
066	Chair Jenson	Closes informational meeting. Adjourns meeting at 10:32 am.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2033, -4 amendments, staff, 1 p

B – Informational, prepared information, Ed Bowles, 16 pp

C – Informational, prepared information, Robin Brown, 2 pp