HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER

 

 

March 04, 2003   Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M. Tapes  31 - 32

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair

Rep. Linda Flores

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Mike Schaufler

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Pete Test, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2138 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2459 & HB 2460 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 31, A

002

Chair Jenson

Calls meeting to order at 8:38 a.m. Opens public hearing on HB 2138.

HB 2138 – PUBLIC HEARING

020

Wayne Giesy

Member, Native Fish Conservation Policy Task Force. Offers suggestions for addressing HB 2138.

039

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2138. Expresses concern with language in bill.

050

Rep. Tomei

Asks for clarification of language.

052

Stonebrink

Clarifies language.

064

Dennis Richey

Executive Director, Oregon Anglers. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2138 (EXHIBIT A).

097

Chair Jenson

Asks about anti-hatchery bias.

109

Ed Bowles

Fish Division Administrator, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. Explains hatchery and non-hatchery fish.

128

Chair Jenson

Asks about listing regarding hatchery and native fish.

139

Bowles

Explains criteria for listing.

152

Chair Jenson

Asks for clarification of definition of hatchery and wild fish.

166

Bowles

Offers clarification.

167

Chair Jenson

Asks for further clarification.

174

Bowles

Offers further clarification.

184

Chair Jenson

Recesses meeting.

186

Chair Jenson

Reconvenes meeting. Closes public hearing on HB 2138. Opens work session on HB 2138.

HB 2138 – WORK SESSION

194

Rep. Tomei

Speaks in support of HB 2138.

201

Chair Jenson

Explains work done by federal agencies regarding definition of recovery.

224

Rep. Tomei

MOTION:  Moves HB 2138 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

232

Rep. Kropf

States support for HB 2138. Notes that there is more work to be done.

242

Rep. Flores

States support for HB 2138.

258

Rep. Kruse

Notes concerns about hatchery and wild fish definitions regarding HB 2138.

290

Rep. Dingfelder

Expresses support for HB 2138.

295

Chair Jenson

Explains work done by Umatilla Tribe in restoring salmon run in Umatilla River.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

342

Chair Jenson

The motion CARRIES.

CHAIR JENSON will lead discussion on the floor. Closes work session on HB 2138. Opens public hearing on HB 2459 and HB 2460.

HB 2459 & HB 2460 – PUBLIC HEARING

361

Pete Test

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2459.

385

Dale Blanchard

West Linn. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460 (EXHIBIT B).

TAPE 32, A

028

Chair Jenson

Asks for clarification of Mr. Blanchard’s view of politicians’ qualifications.

035

Blanchard

Clarifies his view of qualifications.

050

Kaitlin Lovell

Trout Unlimited. Submits prepared information (EXHIBIT C) and testifies in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460.

166

Tom Wolf

Oregon Council, Trout Unlimited. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 & HB 2460 (EXHIBIT D). Submits prepared testimony from Les Helgeson, Native Fish Society (EXHIBIT E).

229

Rep. Kropf

Asks about success of hatcheries in restoring fish runs.

231

Wolf

Cites magazine article addressing degree of success of hatcheries.

246

Rep. Kropf

Asks how recovery of species such as California condor, bred in captivity is different from using hatchery fish.

255

Lovell

Clarifies differences between Rep. Kropf’s examples.

268

Rep. Kropf

Asks for clarification of recovery under Endangered Species Act.

280

Lovell

Clarifies provisions of Endangered Species Act.

300

Rep. Kropf

Comments on recovery and sustainable populations. Notes political aspect of issue.

338

Rep. Tomei

Asks about context of Ms. Lovell’s comments regarding fish farms and hatcheries.

340

Lovell

Clarifies her comments.

342

Rep. Tomei

Asks if Ms. Lovell was involved in Salmon Recovery Task Force.

345

Lovell

Explains her work done with Salmon Recover Task Force.

349

Rep. Tomei

Asks if she agrees with it’s conclusions.

353

Lovell

States her opinions of work done by task force.

359

Chair Jenson

Notes that Endangered Species Act was created by politicians and is now being addressed by politicians.

371

Mary Buckman

President, Oregon Chapter, American Fisheries Society. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460 (EXHIBIT F).

TAPE 31, B

039

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. Testifies in support of HB 2459 and HB 2460.

076

Rep. Kruse

Clarifies intention for HB 2459 and HB 2460.

085

Aubrey Russell

Oregon Trout. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460 (EXHIBIT G).

171

Rep. Kropf

Asks about proposal of Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW) to devise more natural hatchery.

178

Russell

Explains that natural hatcheries are worth exploring.

194

Rep. Tomei

Asks about allowing more fish to naturally travel upstream to spawn.

198

Russell

Explains survivability and spawning of fish populations.

263

Chair Jenson

Comments on putting issues before voters.

290

Dennis Richey

Executive Director, Oregon Anglers. Testifies in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460.

397

Phil Donovan

Northwest Sportfishing Industry, Association of Northwest Steelheaders. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460 (EXHIBIT H).

TAPE 32, B

030

Ed Bowles

Fish Division Administrator, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2459 and HB 2460 (EXHIBIT I).

078

Chair Jenson

Clarifies future intentions for HB 2459 and HB 2460.

085

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about work done and future plans for fish populations.

089

Bowles

Explains work being done and goals for work.

103

Chair Jenson

Closes public hearing on HB 2459 and HB 2460. Opens public hearing on HB 2513.

HB 2513 – PUBLIC HEARING

109

Pete Test

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2513.

118

Chuck Craig

Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Agriculture. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2513 (EXHIBIT J).

198

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks about number of violations issued since SB 1010 inception.

205

Craig

States that there were 51 complaints and 15 water quality advisories issued from 1998.

223

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks if HB 2513 is an unnecessary proposal.

230

Craig

States that he is unsure of intention for HB 2315.

244

John McDonald

Director, Oregon Association of Conservation Districts, District Director, Tualatin Soil and Water Conservation District. Testifies in opposition to HB 2513.

353

Rep. Kropf

States that he would like to keep good direction going regarding Confined Animal Feeding Operations (CAFO).

370

Chair Jenson

Discusses development of SB 1010 and its implementation.

410

McDonald

Describes positive aspect of work being done on issue.

418

Chair Jenson

Closes public hearing on HB 2513. Adjourns meeting at 10:32 am.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2138, written testimony, Dennis Richey, 1 p

B – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Dale Blanchard, 2 pp

C – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written information, Kaitlin Lovell, 1 p

D – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Tom Wolf, 2 pp

E – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Les Helgeson, 2 pp

F – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Mary Buckman,  6 pp

G – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Aubrey Russell, 25 pp

H – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony, Phil Donovan, 2 pp

I – HB 2459 & HB 2460, written testimony and information, Ed Bowles, 13 pp

J – HB 2513, written testimony, Chuck Craig, 2 pp