HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER
April 01, 2003 Hearing Room B
8:30 AM Tape 44
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Kruse
Rep. Linda Flores
Rep. Mike Schaufler
Rep. Carolyn Tomei
STAFF PRESENT: Pete
Test, Committee Administrator
Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 3108 – Public Hearing
HB 3534 – Public Hearing
HB 3094 – Public Hearing
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 44, A |
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003 |
Chair Jenson |
Calls meeting to order at 8:40 a.m., and opens a public
hearing on HB 3108. |
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HB 3108
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Pete Test |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3108. |
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025 |
Rep. Krieger |
House District 1. Offers testimony in support of HB
3108. Gives a history of the issue and reasoning for the bill. |
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135 |
Rep. Tomei |
Asks about specific wording in the bill, and
inquires as to how individuals catch these fish. |
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140 |
Rep. Krieger |
Explains that there are several ways to catch the
fish, and point out the wording in the bill which defines those methods. |
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145 |
Rep. Tomei |
Asks what a pot is in reference to fishing. |
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150 |
Rep. Krieger |
Explains what the function of a fishing pot. |
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155 |
Rep. Tomei |
Clarifies the function of a pot. |
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165 |
Rep. Krieger |
Discusses those fish which can be caught by pot. |
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170 |
Rep. Tomei |
Further questions the use of a pot. |
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175 |
Rep. Krieger |
Further comments on the use of fishing pots. |
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180 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks whether the bill would require additional
staff. |
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185 |
Rep. Krieger |
Explains that the additional work load should be
absorbed by existing positions. |
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195 |
Sen. Dukes |
Senate District 16. Offers testimony in opposition
to HB 3108. |
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255 |
Chair Jenson |
Recesses the public hearing on HB 3108, and opens a
public hearing on HB 3534. |
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HB 3534
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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260 |
Rep. Krieger |
House District 1. Offers testimony in support of HB
3534, including reference to document “Science 101.” |
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370 |
Rep. Kropf |
Asks that Rep. Krieger provide the committee with
the “Science 101” document. |
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385 |
Sen. Dukes |
Senate District 16. Offers testimony in opposition
to HB 3534. |
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TAPE 45, A |
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015 |
Chair Jenson |
Asks Sen. Dukes what she thinks the bill needs to
cover. |
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020 |
Sen. Dukes |
Discusses what she sees as needed in the bill. |
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025 |
Chair Jenson |
Comments on the cooperation among costal
representatives and senators. |
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030 |
Sen. Dukes |
Acknowledges the cooperation. |
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035 |
Chair Jenson |
Recesses the public hearing on HB 3534, and reopens
the public hearing on 3108. |
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HB 3108
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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040 |
Paul Hanneman |
Tillamook County. Offers testimony regarding HB
3108, pointing out the bill need amendments before being passed. |
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060 |
Ray Monroe |
Pacific City, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT A) in opposition to HB 3108
as currently written, with reference to Fish and Game Commission: Notice of
Proposed Changes in Regulations (EXHIBIT
B), and submitted testimonies (EXHIBITS
C, D, E, F). |
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135 |
Rep. Tomei |
Asks how one currently becomes eligible to catch
live fish. |
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140 |
Monroe |
Explains the requirements. |
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145 |
Rep. Tomei |
Clarifies Mr. Monroe’s response. |
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150 |
Monroe |
Acknowledges the clarification, and concludes
testimony. |
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160 |
Rep. Schaufler |
Asks if, in Mr. Monroe’s experience, he has seen any
evidence of these fish populations being lessoned. |
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175 |
Monroe |
Explains that while he has seen decreases in his
catch, he does not think there has been any decrease in the population of fish.
Further discusses the state of the fishing industry in his port. |
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195 |
Hanneman |
Thanks the committee for hearing his and Mr.
Monroe’s testimony. |
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205 |
Chair Jenson |
Recesses the hearing on HB 3108, and reopens the
public hearing on HB 3534. |
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HB 3534
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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210 |
Bill Bradbury |
Oregon Secretary of State. Offers testimony
regarding HB 3534, including an overview for the reasoning and function of
the Ocean Policy Advisory Council (OPAC). |
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TAPE 44, B |
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001 |
Bradbury |
Continues with, and concludes testimony regarding HB
3534. |
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045 |
Rep. Flores |
Refers to Senator Dukes testimony, and clarifies
what authority rests with OPAC. |
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055 |
Bradbury |
Discusses the authorities of OPAC. |
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065 |
Rep. Flores |
Asks if the OPAC plan has been modified over the
years. |
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070 |
Bradbury |
Discusses recent changes in OPAC, and the Land
Conservation and Development Commission (LCDC). |
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080 |
Chair Jenson |
Asks about the concerns that the LCDC does not have
the biological expertise to make some of the decision it does. |
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100 |
Bradbury |
Points out the need for cooperation between OPAC and
the Department of Fish and Wildlife. |
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115 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Asks about the membership of OPAC, and asks for a
brief history of how members were selected for the Council. |
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125 |
Bradbury |
Discusses the current membership issues. |
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165 |
Chair Jenson |
Recesses the public hearing on HB 3534, and reopens
the public hearing on HB 3108. |
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HB 3108
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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180 |
Don Stevens |
Oregon Salmon Commission, Regulatory Committee
Member. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT
G) in opposition to HB 3108. |
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190 |
Tomei |
Asks why salmon trolling is affected. |
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200 |
Stevens |
Points out relevant language in the bill and
continues with testimony. |
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330 |
Rep. Schaufler |
Clarifies, in reference to Mr. Stevens thirty years
of experience, that he is saying the industry has attempted to catch less
incidental fish, and clarifies Mr. Stevens problems with the incidental
limits in the bill. |
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340 |
Stevens |
Discusses his concerns with the incidental limits as
proposed. |
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385 |
Chair Jenson |
Thanks Mr. Stevens for his testimony. |
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400 |
Janice Green |
Oregon Anglers, and Recreational Fishing Alliance.
Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H)
regarding HB 3108. |
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425 |
Dennis Richey |
Oregon Anglers. Offers testimony regarding HB 3108. |
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460 |
Green |
Continues with testimony. |
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TAPE 45, B |
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001 |
Green |
Continues with testimony. |
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090 |
Patty Burke |
Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. Offers
testimony regarding HB 3108. |
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110 |
Vice Chair Dingfelder |
Asks if there would need to be any increases in
staffing to handle the workload proposed by HB 3108. |
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115 |
Burke |
Explains that there would be staffing implications,
but she would not be able to estimate those. |
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120 |
Vice Chair Dingfelder |
Points out that the there is an emergency clause in
the bill. |
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125 |
Lucie La Bonte |
Curry County Commissioner. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) regarding HB 3108. |
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150 |
Scott Boley |
Gold Beach, Oregon. Offers testimony in support of
HB 3108. |
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195 |
Ralph Brown |
Curry County Commissioner. Offers testimony in
support of HB 3108. |
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275 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3108, and reopens
the public hearing on HB 3534. |
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HB 3534
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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290 |
Onno Husing |
Oregon Coastal Zone Management Association. Offers
written testimony (EXHIBIT J) in
support of HB 3534. |
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TAPE 46, A |
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001 |
John Griffith |
Coos County Commissioner. Offers testimony in
support of HB 3534. |
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070 |
Dennis Richey |
Oregon Angers, Executive Director. Offers written
testimony (EXHIBIT K) regarding HB
3534. |
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090 |
Lucie La Bonte |
Curry County Commissioner. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT L) regarding HB 3534. |
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140 |
Rep. Schaufler |
Thanks Ms. La Bonte for her candor. |
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145 |
La Bonte |
Thanks Rep. Schaufler. |
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150 |
Scott McMullen |
OPAC, member. Offers testimony in support of HB
3534. |
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190 |
Ralph Brown |
Curry County. Offers testimony in opposition to HB
3534. |
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275 |
Terry Thompson |
Lincoln County Commissioner. Offers testimony in
support of HB 3534. |
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305 |
Rep. Schaufler |
Apologizes to Mr. Thompson for the condescending
attitude of Portlanders directed at others in the state. |
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315 |
Robin Hartmann |
Oregon Shores Conservation Coalition, Legislative Director.
Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT M)
in opposition to HB 3534. |
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390 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3534, and opens a
public hearing on HB 3094. |
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HB 3094
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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410 |
Pete Test |
Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB
3094 and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT
N). |
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TAPE 47, A |
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005 |
Jon Westerholm |
Columbia River Fishermen’s Protective Union. Offers
written testimony (EXHIBIT O) in
support of HB 3094. |
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050 |
Chuck Haglund |
Columbia River Fishermen’s Protective Union. Offers
testimony in support of HB 3094. |
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080 |
Tod Jones |
Clatsop Economic Development Council Fisheries
Project. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT
P) in support of HB 3094. |
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110 |
Brenda Wall |
Astoria, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT Q) in support of HB 3094. |
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130 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3094 and adjourns
the meeting at 11:07 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 3108, written testimony, Ray Monroe, 1 p.
B – HB 3108, Fish and Game
Commission: Notice of Proposed Changes in Regulation, Ray Monroe, 1 p.
C
– HB 3108, written testimony, Mark Freeman, 5 pp.
D
– HB 3108, written testimony, Craig Wenrick, 1 p.
E
– HB 3108, written testimony, Marty Johnson, 1 p.
F
– HB 3108, written testimony, Ralph Dairy, 1 p.
G
– HB 3108, written testimony, Don Stevens, 3 pp.
H
– HB 3108, written testimony, Janice Green, 5 pp.
I
– HB 3108, written testimony, Lucie La Bonte, 1 p.
J
– HB 3108, written testimony, Onno Husing, 9 pp.
K
– HB 3534, written testimony, Dennis Richey, 1 p.
L
– HB 3534, written testimony, Lucie La Bonte, 1 p.
M
– HB 3534, written testimony, Robin Hartmann, 2 pp.
N
– HB 3094, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p.
O
– HB 3094, written testimony, John Westerholm, 2 pp.
P
– HB 3094, written testimony, Tod Jones, 1 p.
Q
– HB 3094, written testimony, Brenda Wall, 3 pp.