HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WATER

 

 

April 01, 2003 Hearing Room B

8:30 AM Tape  44 - 47

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kropf, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Linda Flores

Rep. Mike Schaufler

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Pete Test, Committee Administrator

Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 3108 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3534 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3094 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 44, A

003

Chair Jenson

Calls meeting to order at 8:40 a.m., and opens a public hearing on HB 3108.

HB 3108 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Pete Test

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3108.

025

Rep. Krieger

House District 1. Offers testimony in support of HB 3108. Gives a history of the issue and reasoning for the bill.

135

Rep. Tomei

Asks about specific wording in the bill, and inquires as to how individuals catch these fish.

140

Rep. Krieger

Explains that there are several ways to catch the fish, and point out the wording in the bill which defines those methods.

145

Rep. Tomei

Asks what a pot is in reference to fishing.

150

Rep. Krieger

Explains what the function of a fishing pot.

155

Rep. Tomei

Clarifies the function of a pot.

165

Rep. Krieger

Discusses those fish which can be caught by pot.

170

Rep. Tomei

Further questions the use of a pot.

175

Rep. Krieger

Further comments on the use of fishing pots.

180

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks whether the bill would require additional staff.

185

Rep. Krieger

Explains that the additional work load should be absorbed by existing positions.

195

Sen. Dukes

Senate District 16. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3108.

255

Chair Jenson

Recesses the public hearing on HB 3108, and opens a public hearing on HB 3534.

HB 3534 – PUBLIC HEARING

260

Rep. Krieger

House District 1. Offers testimony in support of HB 3534, including reference to document “Science 101.”

370

Rep. Kropf

Asks that Rep. Krieger provide the committee with the “Science 101” document.

385

Sen. Dukes

Senate District 16. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3534.

TAPE 45, A

015

Chair Jenson

Asks Sen. Dukes what she thinks the bill needs to cover.

020

Sen. Dukes

Discusses what she sees as needed in the bill.

025

Chair Jenson

Comments on the cooperation among costal representatives and senators.

030

Sen. Dukes

Acknowledges the cooperation.

035

Chair Jenson

Recesses the public hearing on HB 3534, and reopens the public hearing on 3108.

HB 3108 – PUBLIC HEARING

040

Paul Hanneman

Tillamook County. Offers testimony regarding HB 3108, pointing out the bill need amendments before being passed.

060

Ray Monroe

Pacific City, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT A) in opposition to HB 3108 as currently written, with reference to Fish and Game Commission: Notice of Proposed Changes in Regulations (EXHIBIT B), and submitted testimonies (EXHIBITS C, D, E, F).

135

Rep. Tomei

Asks how one currently becomes eligible to catch live fish.

140

Monroe

Explains the requirements.

145

Rep. Tomei

Clarifies Mr. Monroe’s response.

150

Monroe

Acknowledges the clarification, and concludes testimony.

160

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if, in Mr. Monroe’s experience, he has seen any evidence of these fish populations being lessoned.

175

Monroe

Explains that while he has seen decreases in his catch, he does not think there has been any decrease in the population of fish. Further discusses the state of the fishing industry in his port.

195

Hanneman

Thanks the committee for hearing his and Mr. Monroe’s testimony.

205

Chair Jenson

Recesses the hearing on HB 3108, and reopens the public hearing on HB 3534.

HB 3534 – PUBLIC HEARING

210

Bill Bradbury

Oregon Secretary of State. Offers testimony regarding HB 3534, including an overview for the reasoning and function of the Ocean Policy Advisory Council (OPAC).

TAPE 44, B

001

Bradbury

Continues with, and concludes testimony regarding HB 3534.

045

Rep. Flores

Refers to Senator Dukes testimony, and clarifies what authority rests with OPAC.

055

Bradbury

Discusses the authorities of OPAC.

065

Rep. Flores

Asks if the OPAC plan has been modified over the years.

070

Bradbury

Discusses recent changes in OPAC, and the Land Conservation and Development Commission (LCDC).

080

Chair Jenson

Asks about the concerns that the LCDC does not have the biological expertise to make some of the decision it does.

100

Bradbury

Points out the need for cooperation between OPAC and the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

115

Rep. Dingfelder

Asks about the membership of OPAC, and asks for a brief history of how members were selected for the Council.

125

Bradbury

Discusses the current membership issues.

165

Chair Jenson

Recesses the public hearing on HB 3534, and reopens the public hearing on HB 3108.

HB 3108 – PUBLIC HEARING

180

Don Stevens

Oregon Salmon Commission, Regulatory Committee Member. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT G) in opposition to HB 3108.

190

Tomei

Asks why salmon trolling is affected.

200

Stevens

Points out relevant language in the bill and continues with testimony.

330

Rep. Schaufler

Clarifies, in reference to Mr. Stevens thirty years of experience, that he is saying the industry has attempted to catch less incidental fish, and clarifies Mr. Stevens problems with the incidental limits in the bill.

340

Stevens

Discusses his concerns with the incidental limits as proposed.

385

Chair Jenson

Thanks Mr. Stevens for his testimony.

400

Janice Green

Oregon Anglers, and Recreational Fishing Alliance. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT H) regarding HB 3108.

425

Dennis Richey

Oregon Anglers. Offers testimony regarding HB 3108.

460

Green

Continues with testimony.

TAPE 45, B

001

Green

Continues with testimony.

090

Patty Burke

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. Offers testimony regarding HB 3108.

110

Vice Chair Dingfelder

Asks if there would need to be any increases in staffing to handle the workload proposed by HB 3108.

115

Burke

Explains that there would be staffing implications, but she would not be able to estimate those.

120

Vice Chair Dingfelder

Points out that the there is an emergency clause in the bill.

125

Lucie La Bonte

Curry County Commissioner. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT I) regarding HB 3108.

150

Scott Boley

Gold Beach, Oregon. Offers testimony in support of HB 3108.

195

Ralph Brown

Curry County Commissioner. Offers testimony in support of HB 3108.

275

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on HB 3108, and reopens the public hearing on HB 3534.

HB 3534 – PUBLIC HEARING

290

Onno Husing

Oregon Coastal Zone Management Association. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT J) in support of HB 3534.

TAPE 46, A

001

John Griffith

Coos County Commissioner. Offers testimony in support of HB 3534.

070

Dennis Richey

Oregon Angers, Executive Director. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT K) regarding HB 3534.

090

Lucie La Bonte

Curry County Commissioner. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT L) regarding HB 3534.

140

Rep. Schaufler

Thanks Ms. La Bonte for her candor.

145

La Bonte

Thanks Rep. Schaufler.

150

Scott McMullen

OPAC, member. Offers testimony in support of HB 3534.

190

Ralph Brown

Curry County. Offers testimony in opposition to HB 3534.

275

Terry Thompson

Lincoln County Commissioner. Offers testimony in support of HB 3534.

305

Rep. Schaufler

Apologizes to Mr. Thompson for the condescending attitude of Portlanders directed at others in the state.

315

Robin Hartmann

Oregon Shores Conservation Coalition, Legislative Director. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT M) in opposition to HB 3534.

390

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on HB 3534, and opens a public hearing on HB 3094.

HB 3094 – PUBLIC HEARING

410

Pete Test

Committee Administrator. Offers a description of HB 3094 and the proposed -1 amendment (EXHIBIT N).

TAPE 47, A

005

Jon Westerholm

Columbia River Fishermen’s Protective Union. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT O) in support of HB 3094.

050

Chuck Haglund

Columbia River Fishermen’s Protective Union. Offers testimony in support of HB 3094.

080

Tod Jones

Clatsop Economic Development Council Fisheries Project. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT P) in support of HB 3094.

110

Brenda Wall

Astoria, Oregon. Offers written testimony (EXHIBIT Q) in support of HB 3094.

130

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on HB 3094 and adjourns the meeting at 11:07 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 3108, written testimony, Ray Monroe, 1 p.

B – HB 3108, Fish and Game Commission: Notice of Proposed Changes in Regulation, Ray Monroe, 1 p.

C – HB 3108, written testimony, Mark Freeman, 5 pp.

D – HB 3108, written testimony, Craig Wenrick, 1 p.

E – HB 3108, written testimony, Marty Johnson, 1 p.

F – HB 3108, written testimony, Ralph Dairy, 1 p.

G – HB 3108, written testimony, Don Stevens, 3 pp.

H – HB 3108, written testimony, Janice Green, 5 pp.

I – HB 3108, written testimony, Lucie La Bonte, 1 p.

J – HB 3108, written testimony, Onno Husing, 9 pp.

K – HB 3534, written testimony, Dennis Richey, 1 p.

L – HB 3534, written testimony, Lucie La Bonte, 1 p.

M – HB 3534, written testimony, Robin Hartmann, 2 pp.

N – HB 3094, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p.

O – HB 3094, written testimony, John Westerholm, 2 pp.

P – HB 3094, written testimony, Tod Jones, 1 p.

Q – HB 3094, written testimony, Brenda Wall, 3 pp.