SENATE COMMITTEE ON
AGRICULTURE
AND NATURAL RESOURCES
February 26, 2003 Hearing
Room B
8:30 a.m. Tapes
24 - 26
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Frank Shields, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair
Sen. Tony Corcoran
Sen. Bill Fisher
VISITING MEMBERS: Sen. Ken Messerle
Rep. Susan Morgan
STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator
Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Informational Meeting
Forest Legacy Program Overview
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 24, A |
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005 |
Chair Shields |
Calls meeting to order at 8:37 a.m. Opens informational meeting. |
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INFORMATIONAL MEETING Forest
Legacy Program Overview |
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010 |
Jimmy Kagan |
Oregon Natural Heritage Information Center, Oregon
State University (OSU) Institute of Natural Resources. Presents slides giving overview of the
Forest Legacy program (EXHIBIT A). Discusses history, legislation and intent
of program. Provides assessment
report and booklet “Forests Farms and People” (EXHIBITS B, C). |
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110 |
Rep. Morgan |
Asks about percentage of land classified as forest
land which has been converted to other uses. |
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115 |
Kagan |
Discusses.
Continues presentation: ·
Forest losses in
Oregon ·
Identification of
forest legacy areas ·
Site selection
criteria |
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235 |
Hillary Abraham |
Oregon Forest Lands Coordinating Group. Discusses activities of the group, and
projects to be undertaken under the Forest Legacy Program. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). Discusses selection criteria for projects.
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315 |
Ted Lorensen |
Assistant State Forester, Oregon Department of
Forestry (ODF). Presents slides and
discusses Forest Legacy Program status in Oregon (EXHIBIT E). Submits
written testimony (EXHIBITS F, G). Discusses policy objective: Maintaining
the forestland base by conserving forestlands threatened with non-forest
development so as to continue forest commodity production while enhancing
non-commodity resource values.
Addresses specific issues: ·
Consistency with local
government land use plans and compatibility with statewide land use goals |
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TAPE 25, A |
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025 |
Lorensen |
Continues discussing specific issues: ·
Maintaining working
landscape involving forestlands with high conservation values ·
Impacts to local
government tax base and taxes ·
Environmental nexus
with respect to federal laws ·
Maintaining forestland
in private ownership ·
Monitoring
conservation easements and implementation of management plans |
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110 |
Chair Shields |
Asks about monitoring of easements to prevent abuse. |
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120 |
Dr. Jim Cathcart |
OSU Department of Forestry. Discusses monitoring of conservation
easements. |
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135 |
Chair Shields |
Asks about conservation easements in other areas of
the nation. |
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145 |
Cathcart |
Explains legal structure of conservation easement
entity. Describes models for
interaction between Forest Legacy Program and easements. |
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190 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about funding for the program. |
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195 |
Lorensen |
Responds the funds come from the cooperative forestry
grant from the U.S. Forest Service. |
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200 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about number of full-time equivalent positions
(FTE) working on the project. |
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205 |
Cathcart |
Explains he has worked one-third time for a
year. Describes federal funds. |
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215 |
Sen. Beyer |
Discusses struggle with urban-rural interface, and efforts
of private landowners trying to reduce Forestry Department involvement. Asks about policy for interaction. |
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225 |
Lorensen |
Responds and discusses issues of scope for the
Forest Legacy Program. Describes
potential conflicts with land uses for urban forest areas. |
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275 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about the origins of the program in Oregon
during the early 1990s, when it was decided that land use laws adequately
protected forest land. Asks whether
that position has changed and who decided to reconsider the policy. |
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280 |
Cathcart |
Describes entities which approached the Governor in
2001 asking for an assessment of need for the program. |
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290 |
Chair Shields |
Asks about other states which are involved in the
program. |
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295 |
Lorensen |
Responds there are thirty states with operational
programs. |
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355 |
Sen. Messerle |
Asks about funding the program from federal and
state budgets, as well as what matching funding will be required from
participants. |
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380 |
Abraham |
Defers to upcoming presenters to explain specific
funding. |
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390 |
Cathcart |
Discusses federal funding available and matching
requirements. |
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TAPE 24, B |
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020 |
Rep. Morgan |
Refers to written email submitted (EXHIBIT G), and discusses ODF
position on Forest Legacy program participation. Asks for clarification. |
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035 |
Lorensen |
Discusses federal funding. |
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040 |
Cathcart |
Responds further. |
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065 |
Chair Shields |
Comments on legislative decision not to pursue some
projects. |
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070 |
Cathcart |
Clarifies. |
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075 |
Lorensen |
Responds further. |
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085 |
Chair Shields |
Comments on differing support of the program. |
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095 |
Rep. Morgan |
Discusses policy implications of participation in
the program. Refers to submitted
written statement discussing issues to be addressed (EXHIBIT H). |
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115 |
Sen. Messerle |
Asks for specific information about application from
the City of Gresham. |
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120 |
Cathcart |
Discusses Hogan Butte project application. |
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135 |
Edward Miesen |
Landowner, South Eugene Hills Forest Legacy project. Testifies and describes the project. Discusses his goals as a
conservation-minded developer.
Describes reasons for participating in the program. |
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215 |
Chair Shields |
Asks how the $1 million remained in the federal
budget. |
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220 |
Miesen |
Responds. |
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240 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about regulations of the property. |
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245 |
Miesen |
Discusses zoning issues. |
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300 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments that many landowners face the same issues. |
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335 |
Larry Smith |
Jacksonville Woodlands Association. Discusses his involvement in the voluntary
conservation association. Submits
written testimony and maps (EXHIBITS
I, J, K). Discusses association
activities in Jacksonville area. |
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TAPE 25, B |
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005 |
Smith |
Continues discussing Jacksonville Woodlands area and
economic support from tourism.
Describes participation in the Forest Legacy Program. |
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070 |
Leonard Goodwin |
City of Springfield. Testifies in support of participation in the Forest Legacy
Program. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L). Discusses potential project in Springfield
with the Jaqua farm. |
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150 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks about current zoning. |
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155 |
Goodwin |
Explains. |
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160 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks whether there is a flood plain issue. |
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165 |
Goodwin |
Describes flood plain area. |
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170 |
Bob Keefer |
Wilamalane Parks and Recreation, City of Springfield. Testifies in favor of participation in the
program with the Jaqua farm project. |
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220 |
Chair Shields |
Asks about responding to public opposition. |
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230 |
Keefer |
Explains. |
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255 |
Andrea Riner |
Division of Parks and Open Space, City of Eugene. Discusses voter support in the city for
acquisition and renovation of city parks, as well as acquisition of open
space within the city. Describes
acquisition program developed in Eugene.
Testifies in support of participation in Forest Legacy Program with
local land parcels. |
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380 |
Rob Fussell |
City Manager, City of Gresham. Appears and testifies in support of
participation in the legacy program with Hogan Butte property. Describes community master plan and public
support. |
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TAPE 26, A |
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005 |
Fussell |
Continues and responds to Rep. Morgan’s evaluation
regarding the interaction between Oregon’s land use system and the Forest Legacy
Program. Encourages accepting the
program for use in Oregon. |
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055 |
Adam Novick |
Landowner, Eugene.
Testifies in support of participation in the program. Discusses perceived costs and benefits of
program: ·
Protect private
landowners from financial harm from regulations under land use laws and Goal
5 and the Endangered Species Act ·
Allows accomplishment
of stated goal to preserve wildlife ·
Potential loss of tax
revenue is not significant, because most land is under reduced tax assessment ·
Bringing dollars to
Oregon through not forcing local entities to purchase property themselves Concludes and expresses support for the program. |
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145 |
Chair Shields |
Summarizes and concludes. Closes informational meeting.
Adjourns the committee at 10:40 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– Informational, Forest Legacy Program slides, Jimmy Kagan, 16 pp
B
– Informational, Forest Legacy Program assessment report, Jimmy Kagan, 120 pp
C
– Informational, Forests Farms and People booklet, Jimmy Kagan, 51 pp
D
– Informational, written testimony, Hilary Abraham, 2 pp
E
– Informational, written report, Ted Lorensen, 5 pp
F
– Informational, written testimony, Ted Lorensen, 5 pp
G
– Informational, written testimony, Ted Lorensen, 1 p
H
– Informational, written testimony, Rep. Susan Morgan, 3 pp
I
– Informational, written testimony, Larry
Smith, 5 pp
J
– Informational, map, Larry Smith, 2 pp (oversized exhibit)
K
– Informational, map, Larry Smith, 1 p (oversized exhibit)
L
– Informational, written testimony, Leonard Goodwin, 2 pp