SENATE COMMITTEE ON

 AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

 

February 26, 2003                                                                                                   Hearing Room B

8:30 a.m.                                                                                                                       Tapes 24 - 26

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Frank Shields, Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair

Sen. Tony Corcoran

Sen. Bill Fisher

 

VISITING MEMBERS:         Sen. Ken Messerle

Rep. Susan Morgan

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           Informational Meeting

      Forest Legacy Program Overview

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 24, A

005

Chair Shields

Calls meeting to order at 8:37 a.m.  Opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

Forest Legacy Program Overview

010

Jimmy Kagan

Oregon Natural Heritage Information Center, Oregon State University (OSU) Institute of Natural Resources.  Presents slides giving overview of the Forest Legacy program (EXHIBIT A).  Discusses history, legislation and intent of program.  Provides assessment report and booklet “Forests Farms and People” (EXHIBITS B, C).

110

Rep. Morgan

Asks about percentage of land classified as forest land which has been converted to other uses.

115

Kagan

Discusses.  Continues presentation:

·         Forest losses in Oregon

·         Identification of forest legacy areas

·         Site selection criteria

235

Hillary Abraham

Oregon Forest Lands Coordinating Group.  Discusses activities of the group, and projects to be undertaken under the Forest Legacy Program.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).  Discusses selection criteria for projects.

315

Ted Lorensen

Assistant State Forester, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF).  Presents slides and discusses Forest Legacy Program status in Oregon (EXHIBIT E).  Submits written testimony (EXHIBITS F, G).  Discusses policy objective: Maintaining the forestland base by conserving forestlands threatened with non-forest development so as to continue forest commodity production while enhancing non-commodity resource values.  Addresses specific issues:

·         Consistency with local government land use plans and compatibility with statewide land use goals

TAPE 25, A

025

Lorensen

Continues discussing specific issues:

·         Maintaining working landscape involving forestlands with high conservation values

·         Impacts to local government tax base and taxes

·         Environmental nexus with respect to federal laws

·         Maintaining forestland in private ownership

·         Monitoring conservation easements and implementation of management plans

110

Chair Shields

Asks about monitoring of easements to prevent abuse.

120

Dr. Jim Cathcart

OSU Department of Forestry.  Discusses monitoring of conservation easements.

135

Chair Shields

Asks about conservation easements in other areas of the nation.

145

Cathcart

Explains legal structure of conservation easement entity.  Describes models for interaction between Forest Legacy Program and easements.

190

Sen. Beyer

Asks about funding for the program.

195

Lorensen

Responds the funds come from the cooperative forestry grant from the U.S. Forest Service.

200

Sen. Beyer

Asks about number of full-time equivalent positions (FTE) working on the project.

205

Cathcart

Explains he has worked one-third time for a year.  Describes federal funds.

215

Sen. Beyer

Discusses struggle with urban-rural interface, and efforts of private landowners trying to reduce Forestry Department involvement.  Asks about policy for interaction.

225

Lorensen

Responds and discusses issues of scope for the Forest Legacy Program.  Describes potential conflicts with land uses for urban forest areas.

275

Sen. Beyer

Asks about the origins of the program in Oregon during the early 1990s, when it was decided that land use laws adequately protected forest land.  Asks whether that position has changed and who decided to reconsider the policy.

280

Cathcart

Describes entities which approached the Governor in 2001 asking for an assessment of need for the program.

290

Chair Shields

Asks about other states which are involved in the program.

295

Lorensen

Responds there are thirty states with operational programs. 

355

Sen. Messerle

Asks about funding the program from federal and state budgets, as well as what matching funding will be required from participants.

380

Abraham

Defers to upcoming presenters to explain specific funding.

390

Cathcart

Discusses federal funding available and matching requirements. 

TAPE 24, B

020

Rep. Morgan

Refers to written email submitted (EXHIBIT G), and discusses ODF position on Forest Legacy program participation.  Asks for clarification.

035

Lorensen

Discusses federal funding.

040

Cathcart

Responds further.

065

Chair Shields

Comments on legislative decision not to pursue some projects.

070

Cathcart

Clarifies.

075

Lorensen

Responds further.

085

Chair Shields

Comments on differing support of the program.

095

Rep. Morgan

Discusses policy implications of participation in the program.  Refers to submitted written statement discussing issues to be addressed (EXHIBIT H).

115

Sen. Messerle

Asks for specific information about application from the City of Gresham.

120

Cathcart

Discusses Hogan Butte project application.

135

Edward Miesen

Landowner, South Eugene Hills Forest Legacy project.  Testifies and describes the project.  Discusses his goals as a conservation-minded developer.  Describes reasons for participating in the program. 

215

Chair Shields

Asks how the $1 million remained in the federal budget.

220

Miesen

Responds.

240

Sen. Beyer

Asks about regulations of the property.

245

Miesen

Discusses zoning issues.

300

Sen. Beyer

Comments that many landowners face the same issues.

335

Larry Smith

Jacksonville Woodlands Association.  Discusses his involvement in the voluntary conservation association.  Submits written testimony and maps (EXHIBITS I, J, K).  Discusses association activities in Jacksonville area.

TAPE 25, B

005

Smith

Continues discussing Jacksonville Woodlands area and economic support from tourism.  Describes participation in the Forest Legacy Program. 

070

Leonard Goodwin

City of Springfield.  Testifies in support of participation in the Forest Legacy Program.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L).  Discusses potential project in Springfield with the Jaqua farm.

150

Sen. Corcoran

Asks about current zoning.

155

Goodwin

Explains.

160

Sen. Corcoran

Asks whether there is a flood plain issue.

165

Goodwin

Describes flood plain area.

170

Bob Keefer

Wilamalane Parks and Recreation, City of Springfield.  Testifies in favor of participation in the program with the Jaqua farm project.

220

Chair Shields

Asks about responding to public opposition.

230

Keefer

Explains.

255

Andrea Riner

Division of Parks and Open Space, City of Eugene.  Discusses voter support in the city for acquisition and renovation of city parks, as well as acquisition of open space within the city.  Describes acquisition program developed in Eugene.  Testifies in support of participation in Forest Legacy Program with local land parcels.

380

Rob Fussell

City Manager, City of Gresham.  Appears and testifies in support of participation in the legacy program with Hogan Butte property.  Describes community master plan and public support. 

TAPE 26, A

005

Fussell

Continues and responds to Rep. Morgan’s evaluation regarding the interaction between Oregon’s land use system and the Forest Legacy Program.  Encourages accepting the program for use in Oregon.

055

Adam Novick

Landowner, Eugene.  Testifies in support of participation in the program.  Discusses perceived costs and benefits of program:

·         Protect private landowners from financial harm from regulations under land use laws and Goal 5 and the Endangered Species Act

·         Allows accomplishment of stated goal to preserve wildlife

·         Potential loss of tax revenue is not significant, because most land is under reduced tax assessment

·         Bringing dollars to Oregon through not forcing local entities to purchase property themselves

Concludes and expresses support for the program.

145

Chair Shields

Summarizes and concludes.  Closes informational meeting.  Adjourns the committee at 10:40 a.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Informational, Forest Legacy Program slides, Jimmy Kagan, 16 pp

B – Informational, Forest Legacy Program assessment report, Jimmy Kagan, 120 pp

C – Informational, Forests Farms and People booklet, Jimmy Kagan, 51 pp

D – Informational, written testimony, Hilary Abraham, 2 pp

E – Informational, written report, Ted Lorensen, 5 pp

F – Informational, written testimony, Ted Lorensen, 5 pp

G – Informational, written testimony, Ted Lorensen, 1 p

H – Informational, written testimony, Rep. Susan Morgan, 3 pp

I –  Informational, written testimony, Larry Smith, 5 pp

J – Informational, map, Larry Smith, 2 pp (oversized exhibit)

K – Informational, map, Larry Smith, 1 p (oversized exhibit)

L – Informational, written testimony, Leonard Goodwin, 2 pp