SENATE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

April 04, 2003                                                                                                         Hearing Room B

10:00 a.m.                                                                                                                     Tapes 60 - 61

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Frank Shields, Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair

Sen. Tony Corcoran

Sen. Bill Fisher

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Megan Jensen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 672 Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 60, A

003

Chair Shields

Calls meeting to order at 10:10 a.m. and opens public hearing on SB 672.

SB 672 - PUBLIC HEARING

010

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of SB 672.

040

Rep. Floyd Prozanski

District 8 State Representative. Provides testimony in support of SB 672. Discusses the background of SB 672 and asserts that Oregon farmers should be allowed to produce industrial hemp.

140

Rep. Prozanski

Continues testimony in support of SB 672 and discusses the benefits of hemp.

195

Rep. Bob Ackerman

District 13 State Representative. Provides testimony in support of SB 672. Demonstrates a jacket made of a hemp-cotton blend, which was made in China. Asserts that hemp can produce valuable products.

218

Chair Shields

Asks about the texture of the jacket material.

220

Rep. Ackerman

Responds that it is durable material.

227

Chair Shields

Asks if clothing in China is made with hemp.

232

Rep. Ackerman

Responds that he is unsure.

240

Chair Shields

Asks if the woolen mill in Pendleton could be retooled to use hemp.

244

Rep. Ackerman

Responds that it is possible but that the hemp would still have to be imported.

254

Chair Shields

Asks for clarification about competition against hemp.

258

Rep. Prozanski

Responds that producers of other types of materials are threatened by hemp’s versatility.

301

Chair Shields

Inquires about the ability to grow marijuana in a field with industrial hemp.

315

Rep. Prozanski

Discusses issues of cross-pollination of hemp with marijuana.

356

Jeremy Arling

Lane County. Provides testimony in support of SB 672. Explains that he doesn’t support the use of hemp for drug use but for environmentally sound products.

375

Rep. Prozanski

Refers to the use of hemp during World War II (EXHIBIT A).

TAPE 61, A

010

Carolyn Moran

Living Tree Paper Company. Provides testimony in support of SB 672 (EXHIBIT B). Discusses the uses of hemp for paper products. Explains that she could save money and support local farmers by not having to import the hemp for paper production.

056

Sen. Corcoran

Asks for comments on the claim that hemp producers would like to grow marijuana.

060

Moran

States it is a ludicrous claim and explains that many other countries use hemp to produce environmental products, not for drug use.

078

Candi Penn

Hemp Industries Association. Provides testimony in support of SB 672 (EXHIBIT C). Discusses the many uses for hemp fibers.

097

Sen. Corcoran

Asks for comments on the claim that hemp producers would like to grow marijuana.

100

Penn

Responds that industrial varieties of hemp have a lower drug content and are different plants from marijuana plants.

105

Sen. Corcoran

Inquires if the production of industrial hemp would be profitable for local farmers.

111

Penn

Believes that the current market is good and is continually expanding.

114

Sen. Corcoran

Asks about the total market value of United States hemp imports.

116

Penn

Talks about value added to hemp products. Mentions that some automobile manufacturers use hemp in the production of car parts.

130

Chair Shields

Inquires why automobile manufacturers do not advertise the use of hemp materials.

132

Penn

Replies that some people still think of hemp as a drug because of its relationship to marijuana

142

Moran

Comments on the industrial issues surrounding hemp use.

155

Sen. Corcoran

Talks about the uses of hemp.

176

Moran

Reiterates the great potential of hemp production.

179

Sen. Corcoran

Believes hemp could be used in an economic development.

186

Monte Mathews

University Lip Balm Company. Provides testimony in support of SB 672 (EXHIBIT D). Comments that people seem to prefer hemp lip balms over other types of lip balms.

196

Chair Shields

Asks how long his company has been in existence.

200

Mathews

Explains that he has been in business for one year and that sales are constantly increasing.

213

Chair Shields

Clarifies that he must import hemp for lip balm production.

217

Mathews

Confirms he imports hemp from Canada.

220

Moran

Comments on using the hemp seed for oil and the rest of the hemp plant for paper and building materials.

228

Rep. Prozanski

Talks about interest in hemp production by wheat farmers looking for a rotation crop.

260

Sen. Beyer

States that in Oregon the government requires that farmers grow a commercial product that is profitable to qualify for a home on that property.

270

Rep. Prozanski

Replies that hemp could be one of the commodities the farmers grow for profit.

282

Sen. Corcoran

Talks about the potential subsidization of hemp producers.

304

Penn

Discusses using hemp as a rotation crop for the detoxification of soils.

322

Mathews

Comments that he would open a hemp seed oil production company in Oregon if hemp could be grown locally.

347

Moran

Talks about attitudes towards hemp.

351

Chair Shields

Comments on the prejudicial attitude towards hemp as a drug.

366

Rep. Prozanski

Talks about the history of the campaign against industrial hemp.

TAPE 60, B

025

Craig Durbin

Oregon State Police, Oregon Chiefs of Police Association. Provides testimony against SB 672 (EXHIBIT E). Expresses concerns:

  • Drug Enforcement Administration policies prohibit the use of any product containing any amount of THC
  • The legalization of hemp is one step towards legalizing marijuana
  • Economic gain to Oregon farmers is questionable

136

Durbin

Discusses potential consequences of legalizing hemp:

  • Creates a law that is in direct conflict with federal law
  • Creates a significant obstacle for law enforcement to investigate and obtain probable case for search warrant in the manufacturing of illegal marijuana
  • Legalizes the production of a product that has not been proven to be safe for human use
  • Creates a very complex and costly program that will require close monitoring

165

Chair Shields

Wonders about the success of hiding a marijuana plant in an industrial hemp field.

182

Durbin

Explains that marijuana would not grow well within a field of industrial hemp and discusses the issue of probable cause to search an industrial hemp field.

220

Rep. Prozanski

Believes most farmers will not attempt to grow marijuana in hemp fields because of severe consequences.

268

Chair Shields

Asks how many states have gone on record for hemp production.

270

Rep. Prozanski

Explains which states have voted for the production of hemp and elaborates.

335

Sen. Beyer

Asks for information on feasibility studies done by universities.

345

Rep. Prozanski

Offers to provide that information.

368

Chair Shields

Asks about hemp bio-fuel production.

376

Rep. Prozanski

Responds that there are two companies in Oregon using hemp bio-fuel.

401

Durbin

Talks about DEA regulations on hemp production in Hawaii. Addresses the issue of probable cause for searching an industrial hemp field.

TAPE 61, B

004

Chair Shields

Asks about the visual differences between hemp and marijuana.

011

Durbin

Talks about identifying a plant as a controlled substance.

032

Chair Shields

Raises the issue of states’ rights conflicting with trade restraint issues.

052

Rep. Prozanski

Comments on hemp trade issues.

064

Chair Shields

Comments on restraint of trade issues.

068

Rep. Prozanski

Talks about global issues surrounding hemp production.

105

Moran

States support for the production of bio-fuels from hemp.

110

Chair Shields

Comments on other states encouraging legalization of industrial hemp production and discusses issues of legality.

130

Durbin

Responds that the law enforcement agencies are required to support drug enforcement policies. Comments that if the drug THC could be removed from the plant it would be possible to support the production of hemp and states that otherwise hemp and marijuana are viewed by youth as one and the same.

175

Chair Shields

Inquires if it is a societal prejudice.

178

Durbin

Discusses the youth drug culture and comments on marijuana and hemp websites.

190

Chair Shields

Comments that the people who maintain the drug websites do a disservice to the hemp issue. Asks about the 1999 House bill in the House dealing with a similar hemp issue.

195

Rep. Prozanski

Explains why the bill did not pass during the 1999 legislative session.

263

Chair Shields

Asks about different THC levels in hemp plants.

272

Rep. Prozanski

Explains that trace amounts can be difficult to define and therefore difficult to obtain.

310

Angling

Discusses issues surround the level of THC in hemp and the ability to detect pot aerially. Explains why smoking hemp will not induce a high.

350

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 672 and adjourns meeting at 12:00 p.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 672, written testimony, Rep. Prozanski, 13 pp.

B – SB 672, written testimony, Carolyn Moran, 4 pp.

C – SB 672, written testimony, Candi Penn, 57 pp.

D – SB 672, written testimony, Mark Mathews, 1 pp.

E – SB 672, written testimony, Craig Durbin, 34 pp.