SENATE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

 

April 9, 2003                                                                                                           Hearing Room B

9:00 a.m.                                                                                                                       Tapes 64 - 65

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Frank Shields, Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair

Sen. Tony Corcoran

Sen. Bill Fisher

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 576 – Public Hearing

HB 2533A – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 594 – Public Hearing

SB 595 – Public Hearing

SB 597 – Public Hearing

SB 674 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 64, A

005

Chair Shields

Calls meeting to order at 9:06 a.m.  Opens public hearing on SB 576.

SB 576 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 576, which requires Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team to accept input and opinions from nonmember scientists with certain expertise when discussing potential official action of team.

015

Rich Angstrom

Oregon Concrete Aggregate Producers Association (OCAPA).  Testifies in support of SB 576.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).  Discusses research report by Legislative Counsel regarding Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST) compliance with public meeting laws (EXHIBIT B).  Describes IMST recommendations made under the Oregon Plan for Salmon and Watersheds (Oregon Plan).  Discusses confidentiality issues.

170

Dr. Stan Gregory

Co-chair IMST; Fisheries and Wildlife Department, Oregon State University (OSU).  Provides background of the IMST.  Discusses charter formed for the research group and efforts to comply with Oregon’s open meeting law.  Discusses contentious nature of the issues considered by the team and confidentiality. 

250

Chair Shields

Asks whether the team publishes information that the reports are being reviewed.

255

Gregory

Explains the fact of review is published, along with the name of the reviewer, if available.  Offers to provide specific information if not confidential and to accept any input on the issues being considered.

290

Chair Shields

Asks about appropriateness of sharing draft materials.

305

Gregory

Responds there is a risk that information and discussions would be sharply constrained.  Continues some draft sections are used as preliminary information but are incomplete or too general.

340

Sen. Fisher

Compares experience of drafting legislation.

345

Gregory

Discusses process of synthesizing research to produce a report.

355

Chair Shields

Clarifies whether debate is open and whether materials being discussed are shared with the public.

370

Gregory

Confirms and explains the meetings are open and public with published agendas and notice.

390

Sen. Beyer

Asks about statutory exemption for keeping draft material out of the public record.

405

Gregory

Explains it was put in the charter, which was reviewed by the Governor’s Natural Resources Office and by the Joint Stream Restoration and Species Recovery Committee.

410

Chair Shields

Asks about review process.

TAPE 65, A

005

Gregory

Discusses legislative review of the established process.

010

Sen. Beyer

Comments on statutory language referencing confidentiality of drafts.

015

Sen. Fisher

Suggests the team’s material does not fall within the exemption.

020

Chair Shields

Asks how independent the IMST should be, and whether it will truly be independent if draft materials are made available.

040

Gregory

Emphasizes that IMST will accept any input regarding legality and application of open meetings law.  Advises the goal is for the process to be open, legal and of service to the state. 

060

Dr. Richard Shepard

OCAPA; Applied Ecosystem Services Inc.; specialist in river ecology and fluvial geomorphology.  Discusses experiences in attending IMST meetings.  Explains the meeting was ineffective, because he had no opportunity to review any written material being discussed and could not make any meaningful comment.  Suggests the team should accept input from all scientific disciplines.

095

Chair Shields

Asks whether it would be helpful if he had been one of the reviewers, or if the team made sure all stakeholders were consulted and offered a chance to review.

115

Sen. Beyer

Predicts there would be criticism that IMST is hand-picking people to provide reviews.

130

Sen. Fisher

Recommends making the whole process more open.

150

Shepard

Explains the bill is actually asking for non-member scientists to be more involved in the process.  Suggests the process would be more credible.

170

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 576.  Opens public hearing on
HB 2533A.

HB 2533A – PUBLIC HEARING

180

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of HB 2533A, which exempts propane produced by process other than refining crude oil and for nonvehicle use from payment of part of fee for possession of hazardous substances.

200

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

District 33; Chair of work group which created the legislation.  Testifies in support of HB 2533A.  Discusses background of the issue resulting from three DEQ programs and the fees which support them:

·       Toxic Use Reduction program

·       Community Right to Know program

·       Orphan Site Cleanup program

Explains propane holders pay disproportionately high fees for toxic use reduction program.  Discusses fee structure.

280

Lana Butterfield

Northwest Propane Gas Association.  Testifies in support of HB 2533A.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

285

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on HB 2533A.  Opens work session on HB 2533A.

HB 2533A – WORK SESSION

300

Sen. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2533A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

305

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

325

Chair Shields

Closes work session on HB 2533A.  Opens public hearing on SB 594.

SB 594 – PUBLIC HEARING

330

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 594, which creates Task Force on Land Conservation Programs.

332

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 594.  Opens public hearing on SB 595.

SB 595 – PUBLIC HEARING

335

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 595, which creates Task Force on Federal Forest Programs.

337

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 595.  Opens public hearing on SB 597.

SB 597 – PUBLIC HEARING

340

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 597, which requires person to hold shellfish license to take shellfish.

342

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 597.  Opens public hearing on SB 674.

SB 674 – PUBLIC HEARING

345

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 674, which repeals petition and referendum statutes pertaining to Oregon Beef Council.

350

Chair Shields

Closes public hearing on SB 674.  Adjourns the committee at 9:57 a.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 576, written testimony, Rich Angstrom, 2 pp

B – SB 576, legal research memo, Rich Angstrom, 2 pp

C – HB 2533A, written testimony, Lana Butterfield, 3 pp