SENATE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

June 13, 2003 Hearing Room B

8:00 a.m. Tapes 78 - 79

MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Frank Shields, Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair

Sen. Tony Corcoran

Sen. Bill Fisher

STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Megan Jensen, Committee Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2473A Work Session

HB 2209 Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2468A Public Hearing

SB 854 Work Session

HB 3013 Work Session

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 78, A
003	Chair Shields	Calls meeting to order at 8:15 a.m. and opens work session on HB 2473A
HB 2473A – WORK SESSION
007	Rep. Tom Butler	District 60 State Representative. Provides testimony in support of HB 2473A and –A3 amendments (EXHIBITS A and B).
050	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2473-A3 amendments dated 5/28/03.
052		VOTE: 3-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Corcoran
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES.
060	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves HB 2473A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.
063	Sen. Beyer	Speaks about the advisory committee.
070	Chair Shields	Comments on the wording of the –A3 amendments.

077		VOTE: 3-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Corcoran
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES. SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.
081	Chair Shields	Closes work session on HB 2473A and opens public hearing on HB 2209.
HB 2209 – PUBLIC HEARING
090	Judith Callens	Committee Administrator. Provides overview of HB 2209 and -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C).
113	Roy Elicker	Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) Deputy Director. Provides testimony in support of HB 2209 and -3 amendments. Discusses benefits of utilizing aircraft in conducting wildlife management activities or protecting human safety.
150	Ron Anglin	ODFW Wildlife Administrator. Provides testimony in support of HB 2209. Talks about situations where using aircraft is necessary.
202	Chair Shields	Asks how the -3 amendments allow ODFW to protect property.
210	Anglin	Explains specific instances where ODFW would protect property.
236	Sen. Beyer	Asks if HB 2209 would include protection for timber companies affected by timber damage done by bears.
240	Anglin	Replies that HB 2209 would most likely cover the situation but would not be the most effective tool available for private timber damage.
279	Sen. Beyer	Asks about the term “necessary.”
281	Elicker	Discusses the use of “necessary” in the context of HB 2209.
284	Sen. Beyer	Asks about the inclusion of the wolf and states the wolf does not exist in Oregon.
295	Elicker	Agrees
298	Sen. Beyer	Inquires why all animals that don’t exist in Oregon are not included in HB 2209.
302	Elicker	Replies that HB 2209 is looking forward to when wolves will eventually come to Oregon.
330	Stephen Kafoury	Wildlife Society Oregon Chapter. Provides testimony on HB 2209 and states a neutral stance on the issue.
338	Warren Aney	Wildlife Society Wildlife Ecologist. Provides neutral testimony on HB 2209. Talks about the use of aircraft for wildlife management in other states.
372	Al Elkins	Oregon Hunters Association. States support for HB 2209.
390	Glen Stonebrink	Oregon Cattlemen Association. States support for HB 2209 and discusses the management of wolves.
The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for HB 2209:
	Phil Donovan	Oregon Guides and Packers Association. Submits written testimony in opposition to HB 2209 (EXHIBIT D).
420	Chair Shields	Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB 2209.
HB 2209 – WORK SESSION
440	Sen. Corcoran	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2209-3 amendments dated 6/12/03.
442		VOTE: 3-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Fisher
	Chair Shields	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
450	Sen. Corcoran	MOTION: Moves HB 2209 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
452		VOTE: 4-0
	Chair Shields	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.
455	Chair Shields	Closes work session on HB 2209 and opens public hearing on HB 2468A.
TAPE 79, A
HB 2468A – PUBLIC HEARING
010	Judith Callens	Committee Administrator. Provides overview of HB 2468A and –A5 amendments (EXHIBIT E).
070	Roy Elicker	Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) Deputy Director. Provides neutral testimony on HB 2468A and –A5 amendments. Discusses the goals of the –A5 amendments.
095	Ron Anglin	ODFW Wildlife Administrator. Provides information on the –A5 amendments and discusses how HB 2468A will affect species management.
128	Stephen Kafoury	Wildlife Society Oregon Chapter. Provides neutral testimony on HB 2468A and –A5 amendments.
139	Warren Aney	Wildlife Society Wildlife Ecologist. Provides neutral testimony on HB 2468A and –A5 amendments. Remarks on the need for Oregon to have a list of species it can effectively manage.
168	Chair Shields	Asks about using objective versus subjective criteria.
170	Aney	Discusses non-scientific criteria.
179	Chair Shields	Comments on the subjectivity issue.
180	Aney	Agrees.
191	Glen Stonebrink	Oregon Cattlemen Association. Provides testimony in support of HB 2468A and –A5 amendments. Believes HB 2468A provides the flexibility to make appropriate decisions on species management.
230	Shields	Asks about the subjectivity of listing and delisting species.
233	Stonebrink	Believes that very few things can be determined to be completely factual.
250	Greg Addington	Oregon Farm Bureau. Provides testimony in support of HB 2468A and –A5 amendments. Discusses the recovery language and the benefits of the –A5 amendments.
320	Chair Shields	Believes HB 2468A and –A5 amendments require more work.
328	Stonebrink	Comments that HB 2468A should be passed and the Commission be allowed to work on the bill for two years.
362	Martin Taylor	Sierra Club. Provides testimony in opposition to HB 2468A and –A5 amendments (EXHIBIT F). Discusses the importance of species protection.
TAPE 78, B
005	Taylor	Continues testimony in opposition to HB 2468A. Talks about using scientific criteria in endangered species management. Questions whether the agencies are effectively implementing recovery plans in practice.
100	Taylor	Continues testimony in opposition to HB 2468A. Expresses concerns of Sierra Club members.
180	Chair Shields	Comments that other issues need to be addressed before working HB 2468A.
202	Sen. Beyer	Offers support for HB 2468A and –A5 amendments.
210	Chair Shields	Closes public hearing on HB 2468A and opens work session on SB 854.
SB 854 – WORK SESSION
220	Mike Dewey	Oregon Commodity Commission Consortium. Provides testimony in support of SB 854 and -5 amendments and discusses commodity commissions.
280	John McCulley	Oregon Commodity Commission Consortium. Provides testimony in support of SB 854. Explains the -5 amendments (EXHIBIT G AND EXHIBIT H) and the areas of compromise reached in SB 854: · Use of pesticides · Refunds · Use of remaining funds from an abolished commodity commission
395	Chair Shields	Brings up the issue of potential lawsuits.
411	Dewey	Talks about potential lawsuits.
TAPE 79, B
018	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 854-5 amendments dated 6/12/03.
020		VOTE: 4-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES.
030	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves SB 854 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.
032		VOTE: 4-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES. SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.
044	Chair Shields	Closes work session on SB 854 and opens work session on HB 3013.
HB 3013 – WORK SESSION
046	Judith Callens	Committee Administrator. Submits HB 3013-4 amendments (EXHIBIT H).
049	Bob Rindy	Provides testimony in support of HB 3013 and explains -4 amendments (EXHIBIT I).
070	Chair Shields	Asks for explanations of specific sections of HB 3013.
076	Rindy	Explains the different proposals.
085	Chair Shields	Commends the participating parties and supports moving HB 3013 to a conference committee. Discusses the continuation of work on HB 3013.
128	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3013-4 amendments dated 6/12/03.
130		VOTE: 4-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES.
140	Sen. Beyer	MOTION: Moves HB 3013 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
142		VOTE: 4-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Shields	The motion CARRIES. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.
The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for HB 3013:
	Aileen Kaye	Provides written testimony in opposition to HB 3013 (EXHIBIT J).
	Roger Kaye	Provides written testimony in opposition to HB 3013 (EXHIBIT K).
	Suzanne Devlin	Provides written testimony in opposition to HB 3013 (EXHIBIT L).
	Elise Lynch	Provides written testimony in opposition to HB 3013 (EXHIBIT M).
	Ron Ball	Provides written testimony in opposition to HB 3013 (EXHIBIT N).
160	Chair Shields	Closes work session on HB 3013 and adjourns meeting at 9:50 a.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2473A, written testimony, Rep. Tom Butler, 1 p.

B – HB 2473A, HB 2473-A3 amendments dated 5/28/03, staff, 2 pp.

C – HB 2209, HB 2209-3 amendments dated 6/12/03, staff, 1 p.

D – HB 2209, written testimony, Phil Donovan, 1 p.

E – HB 2468A, HB 2468-A5 amendments dated 6/12/03, staff, 2 pp.

F – HB 2468A, written testimony, Martin Taylor, 4 pp.

G – SB 854, SB 854-5 amendments dated 4/25/03, staff, 78 pp.

H – SB 854, written testimony, John McCulley, 1 p.

I – HB 3013, HB 3013-4 amendments dated 6/12/03, staff, 5 pp.

J – SB 3013, written testimony, Aileen Kaye, 1 p.

K – SB 3013, written testimony, Roger Kaye, 1 p.

L – SB 3013, written testimony, Suzanne Devlin, 1 p.

M – SB 3013, written testimony, Elise Lynch, 1 p.

N – SB 3013, written testimony, Ron Bell, 1 p.