SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
February 11, 2003 Hearing
Room C
3:00 p.m. Tapes
13-14
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli
Sen. Bill Morrisette
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charles Starr, Chair
STAFF PRESENT: Jan McComb, Committee
Administrator
Romy Dye, Committee
Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 124 – Public Hearing
SB 126 – Public Hearing
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compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 13, A |
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005 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Calls the committee to order at 3:15 PM. Opens a public
hearing on SB 124. |
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SB 124
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Jan McComb |
Committee Administrator. Presents overview of SB
124. |
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014 |
Bob Siewert |
Associate Superintendent for the Office of
Curriculum Instruction and Field Services, Oregon Department of
Education. Testifies in support of SB 124. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A). |
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050 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Inquires about types of waivers. |
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053 |
Joni Gillis |
Director, Office of Curriculum Instruction and Field
Services, Oregon Department of Education. Responds have had ten waiver
requests to date of which most are waiving 20% cap of out-of-district
students. |
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070 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about whether waiver requested in the past. |
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072 |
Gillis |
Responds positively. |
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076 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about acquisition to waiver by other districts.
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|
080 |
Gillis |
Responds the waivers granted by the State Board have
been granted due to joint waiver request from outlying districts, sponsoring
districts and charter school. |
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086 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks for clarification the only waivers granted with
20% is result of coming together by all parties agreeing to the waiver. |
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087 |
Gillis |
Responds positively. |
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090 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about disputes between districts. |
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095 |
Randy Harnisch |
Executive Staff, State Board of Education. Explains
that is not an issue at this point. |
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103 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Inquires about opposition to proposal. |
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105 |
Gillis |
Responds negatively. |
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110 |
Jim Green |
Oregon School Boards Association. Advises the association is not
opposed to bill in current form but would like to discuss amendment to SB
124. |
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139 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether waiver might be denied by State Board
of Education. |
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142 |
Green |
Responds positively. |
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145 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about opposition. |
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146 |
Green |
Explains. |
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150 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Asks for examples. |
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152 |
Green |
Provides example. |
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179 |
Rob Kremer |
Oregon Education Coalition. Expresses concern with
SB 124. |
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200 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks questions about remand. |
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208 |
Kremer |
Responds remand is fruitless at this time. |
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213 |
Gillis |
Elaborates further. |
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238 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about how many times moves to State Board and
State Board said no. |
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248 |
Gillis |
Responds six denials by local school boards with
three successfully mediated resulting in charter and the other three going
through the State Board. |
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255 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about remand back from state to local districts
that have gone nowhere. |
|
268 |
Kremer |
Responds three instances where processes at the
state say they want school sponsored. |
|
275 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if they were sponsored as result. |
|
277 |
Kremer |
Responds positively. |
|
280 |
Green |
Explains further. |
|
310 |
Steve Novick |
Department of Education. Asserts that remand
procedure is valuable. |
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330 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about department involvement in discussion with
local school and local school boards. |
|
340 |
Novick |
Responds and elaborates. |
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354 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments with examples on remands. |
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360 |
Novick |
Responds on remands granted and denied. |
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383 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Closes the public hearing on SB 124 and opens a public
hearing on SB 126. |
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SB 126
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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392 |
McComb |
Presents overview on SB 126. |
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397 |
Bob Siewert |
Testifies in support of SB 126. Provides written summary
(EXHIBIT B). |
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TAPE 14, A |
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005 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Asks about whether other vendors charged fees aside
from publishers. |
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007 |
Rex Crouse |
Department of Education. Responds that this program
deals only with those publishers that request to be a part of the review
process so does not know of other vendors that deal with Department of
Education. |
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011 |
Siewert |
Elaborates. |
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017 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks what textbook is being reviewed this year. |
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020 |
Crouse |
Responds mathematics review and beginning second
world languages. |
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023 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks how many textbooks submitted for mathematics for
review. |
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025 |
Crouse |
Responds nineteen programs. |
|
027 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about whether a $50 fee per program. |
|
029 |
Crouse |
Responds it is a fee per item within a program. |
|
036 |
Green |
Clarifies. |
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038 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about fees collected for mathematics this year.
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|
039 |
Crouse |
Responds $235,416. |
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041 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Asks if Oregon’s fees are highest in the nation. |
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043 |
Crouse |
Responds twenty states are involved in adoption
process with fees in over three. |
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047 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Requests information on the rate. |
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052 |
Green |
Comments attempting to find out more information. |
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060 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about complaints from vendors about fees. |
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062 |
Crouse |
Responds there have always been comments on fees but
because of legislation fees are in existence. |
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067 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether the fee has been a disincentive for
vendors who come to Oregon. |
|
069 |
Crouse |
Explains it has not been a disadvantage. |
|
072 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether a disincentive if fees increased. |
|
076 |
Green |
Responds with examples. |
|
080 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Ask for information comparing Oregon to other
states. |
|
082 |
Green |
Responds will get information. |
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084 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks what the value of the adoptions is. |
|
093 |
Crouse |
Responds with explanation on requirements. |
|
099 |
Green |
Adds through this program initial review of
curricular material is needed to be done in order to save districts time. |
|
101 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Elaborates. |
|
130 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether there are nineteen publishers. |
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133 |
Crouse |
Responds estimate is believed to be correct. |
|
135 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies whether there are nineteen people applied. |
|
136 |
Crouse |
Responds positively. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether there are nineteen choices that can be
made to purchase the books. |
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Crouse |
Responds nineteen by category not total. |
|
138 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about retail. |
|
147 |
Crouse |
Explains $50 or actual retail whichever is higher
per item. |
|
155 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks
about price breaks involved in selling to different school districts. |
|
160 |
Crouse |
Responds there is a contract involved. |
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165 |
Vice-Chair Deckert |
Closes the public hearing on SB 126 and adjourns the
meeting at 3:55 PM. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 124, table of history of revenues and expenditures, Bob Siewert, 1 pp
B
– SB 126, overview, Bob Siewert, 2 pp