SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

February 13, 2003                                                                                                   Hearing Room C

3:00 p.m.                                                                                                                         Tapes 15-16

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen.  Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Charles Starr, Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jan McComb, Committee Administrator

Romy Dye, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:  SB 127 –Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 131 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 15, A

005

Vice-Chair Deckert

Calls the committee to order at 3:09 PM. Opens a public hearing on SB 127. 

SB 127 – PUBLIC HEARING

008

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of SB 127.

020

Diana Allen

Director of the Early Intervention Early Childhood Special Education and Regional Programs, Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in favor of SB 127. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).

076

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if a parent wants an evaluation if they can have one.

091

Allen

Responds positively.

093

Sen. Morrisette

Asks how time consuming the review is.

099

Allen

Responds that it varies on the child.

119

Sen. Morrisette

Expresses concern that family may feel they are not entitles to a six month review and asks if a family ever requires a review more than six months.

123

Allen

Answers positively.

135

Sen. Ferrioli

Asks why the six month individual learning plan review that was placed there for a reason is no longer valid.

143

Allen

Responds additional testimony to come on why there is a change.

161

Sen. Ferrioli

Asks whether review will be every six months, annually , or as needed.

163

Allen

Responds review must be held at least annually and parent or team member can ask for review at any time.

170

Wilma Wells

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators. Testifies in favor  of SB 127.

222

Sharon Lewis

Co-Chair- Family Action and Coalition Team, Portland, Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 127.

230

Janice Richards

Family Action and Coalition Team, Executive Director of Parent Training and Information Center for the State of Oregon. Testifies in favor of SB 127. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B ).

250

Lewis

Elaborates in support of SB 127.

265

Richards

Comments regarding suggesting to adding to the ISP form a line to call an IFS meeting when necessary and suggesting a release form filled out.

305

Judy Newman

Legislative Representative for the State and Regency Coordinating Counsel and service provider for Regent 7 of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 127. 

380

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about staff initiating a meeting and not just parents.

385

Newman

Answers positively.

398

Vice-Chair Deckert

Closes the public hearing  on SB 127 and opens a work session on SB 127.

SB 127 – WORK SESSION

410

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves SB  127 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Chair C. Starr

415

Vice-Chair Deckert

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor.

420

Vice-Chair Deckert

Closes the work session on SB 127 and opens a public hearing on SB 131.

SB 131 – PUBLIC HEARING

TAPE 16, A

005

Jan McComb

Provides overview of SB 131.

006

Bob Siewert

Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in support of SB 131 Submits written material (EXHIBIT C).

031

Cliff Brush

Oregon Department of Education. Agrees with previous speaker.

035

Vice-Chair Deckert

Asks if option is available today why does legislation have to give them that option.

038

Siewert

Responds by the letter of the law the Oregon assessment is not permitted as the assessment test for grades 3, 5, 8 and 10 for home- schooled children.

046

Rodger Williams

Oregon Christian Home Education Network (OCEA).  Testifies in opposition of SB 131. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

130

Vice-Chair Deckert

Asks about if parent not given the option to allow a child to take an assessment test.

135

Williams

Responds it is unfair for children to be judged on differing standards.  

143

Vice-Chair Deckert

Asks if parents should have the choice or option should not be allowed.

147

Williams

Responds disadvantage for those not knowing about the test.

163

Sen. Morrisette

Asks how it is different than what is happening now.

167

Williams

Responds requirement is to take a national norm test and can take a statewide assessment if they choose.

170

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if this would eliminate requirement to take a national test..

172

Williams

Responds positively.

174

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about penalization to the child choosing to take the national test.

176

Williams

Responds depends on whether national test harder or not.

178

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about always having the option to take the state test.

180

Williams

Responds only if they knew about it.

181

Dorothy Karman

Oregon Christian Home Education Network (OCEA). Testifies in opposition of SB 131.

231

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether textbooks approved by the state.

236

Karman

Responds there is no requirement for the textbooks to be approved by the State of Oregon  and families choose own educational materials.

241

Sen. Morrisette

Asks what is national average on achievement test.

243

Karman

Responds average is 50th percentile.

263

Sen. Morrisette

Asks what percent of home-schooled students choose to use the state standard.

275

Karman

Responds 750 students and the last record the Department of Education has is 14,000 home educated students.

278

Vice-Chair Deckert

Asks why the 750 children and parents the should not be allowed the option and children choose to exercise that option.

281

Williams

Responds most of the home-schoolers use independent publishers and gives an example on fairness.  

301

Vice-Chair Deckert

Asks why it should not  be an option for parents and students if they choose to take the test.

303

Williams

Responds with an example on fairness. 

312

Karman

Elaborates further on fairness issue.  

336

Williams

Comments if the department when they get the money goes ahead and nationally norms the state assessments it is great and would fit into the existing framework.  

345

Sen. Morrisette

Comments home-schooled people do not want to be told what to do and asks why home schooled kids choose to do the state test should be denied that option.

360

Williams

Rephrases question that the best thing is parents making choices that are best for their children but huge disadvantage for those who do not use the public school curriculum if they choose to take the statewide assessment because they will score lower.

381

Bob Siewert

Comments cost is minimal and parents will have a variety of options with tests if this bill is passed.

400

Sen. Morrisette

Comments about having an advantage depending on what curriculum is used.  

414

Siewert

Responds positively.

TAPE 15, B

011

Sen. Morrisette

Comments on knowing outstanding home schooled students and has confidence in system.

027

Vice-Chair Deckert

Closes the public hearing on SB 131 and adjourns the meeting at 4:07 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 127, written testimony, Diana Allen, 3 pp

B – SB 127, written testimony, Janice Richards, 1 p

C – SB 131, overview, Bob Siewert, 1 p

D – SB 131, written testimony, Rodger Williams, 1 pp