SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

February 25, 2003                                                                                                   Hearing Room C

3:00 p.m.                                                                                                                         Tapes 21-23

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen.  Charles Starr, Chair

Sen.  Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jan McComb, Committee Administrator

Romy Dye, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 388 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 282 – Public Hearing

                                                SB 283 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 21, A

005

Chair Starr

Calls meeting to order at 3:04 PM. Opens a public hearing on SB 388.         

SB 388 – PUBLIC HEARING

007

Sen. Metsger

Provides overview of SB 388.

033

Tom Welter

Executive Director, Oregon School Activities Association (OSAA). Provides overview of OSAA program. Submits written material. (EXHIBIT A).

086

Mike Wallmark

Assistant Executive Director, Oregon School Activities Association (OSAA). Discusses proposed amendment to SB 388. Discusses OSAA program and process for school classification and district placement.  

160

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether research on reclassification criteria found.

164

Wallmark

Answers it is Article 9.

170

Chair Starr

Asks if review by the Department of Education of criteria is not opposed if moved forward.

175

Welter

Responds that is correct.

191

Jeff Baker

Attorney, Hood River County School District. Testifies in favor of SB 388. Discusses redistricting experience in Hood River. Suggests process for other schools be reviewed by Department of Education without increasing costs. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

256

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about concern for unclear guidelines for reviewing Hood River case because whether or not a law had been violated was the focus.

261

Baker

Responds process was unclear.

296

Sen. Morrisette

Asks for comment on  SB 388 amendment.

297

Baker

Elaborates on amendment and positive aspects of it.

307

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about transfer in Hood River.

308

Baker

Responds they have moved to intermountain conference.  

317

Steve Fisk

Co-Principal Hood River Valley High School. Testifies in support of SB 388.  Provides examples of what transpired since move to intermountain conference. Comments that lessening sports is not a good thing. 

368

Rick Dills

School District Administrator, Gresham Barlow Schools. Testifies in support of SB 388. Discusses personal experience of parenting a student competing in sports with son’s negative experiences and impact it has on kids and education.

TAPE 22, A

005

Dills

Discusses benefits of supporting SB 388.

044

Sen. Morrisette

Comments main focus for redistricting is enrollment numbers in schools.

048

Dills

Responds this issue had nothing to do with enrollment.  

059

Jim Keene

Superintendent, Pendleton, Oregon. Testifies in opposition of SB 388. Comments OSAA is complete in their processes and has fine criteria for defining school placement and supports amendment. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

138

Paul Curtis

Director of Secondary Services, Pendleton, Oregon. Testifies  in opposition of SB 388 but with amendment possibility of further clarification and organization better off. Discusses needing organization that mentions there is a process of appeal. 

180

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 388 and opens a work session on SB 388.

SB 388 – WORK SESSION

183

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 388-2 amendments dated 02/24/03.  (EXHIBIT F)

185

 

VOTE:  3-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Deckert

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

190

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves SB 388 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

195

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Deckert

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. METSGER will lead discussion on the floor.

205

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 388 and opens a public hearing on SB 282. 

SB 282 – PUBLIC HEARING

210

Roger Beyer

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in support of SB 282. Provides summary of SB 282.  

274

Sen. Deckert

Asks whether students would switch to suburban school districts in next three or four months..

293

Sen. Beyer

Responds that could happen and comments on importance of space available issue in SB 282.

311

Chair Starr

Close the public hearing on SB 282 and opens a public hearing on SB 283.

SB 283 – PUBLIC HEARING

318

Roger Beyer

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in support of SB 283. Provides summary of SB 283.

376

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether there is a K-12 in each district. that would split.

383

Beyer

Responds SB 283 does not address that issue.

390

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 283 and reopens the public hearing on SB 282.

SB 282 – PUBLIC HEARING

412

Chuck Bennett

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators (COSA). Testifies in opposition of SB 282. Provides example of a district impacted by student’s moving to other districts. Submits written material (EXHIBIT D).

TAPE 21, B

005

Bennett

Discusses need for SB 282 to be worked substantially.

027

John Marshall

Oregon School Boards Association (OSBA). Discusses opposition of SB 282. Believes procedure in place to allow students to attend school in another school district works well and should be left alone.

059

Sen. Ferrioli

Asks about a district making policy decision to consider case by case which would force reconsideration of policy reasonable people make work until someone decides not to be reasonable and look at case-by-case situation.

068

Marshall

Responds referring to Gervais decision.  

079

Sen. Deckert

Asks opinion on allowing choice amongst parents and their child attending school.

090

Marshall

Responds on local boards needing to make decisions for striking a balance in giving students and parents options while recognizing when students leave money also leaves creating financial strain on school and kids left.

110

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if school districts consistently refuse letting students transfer out of the district without making a rule that no way are they going to let someone transfer out.  

126

Marshall

Respond does not have information on inter-district transfers available.

128

Sen. Morrisette

Expresses concerned for need of inter-district communication.

134

Bennett

Responds that shared responsibility exists.

150

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks how to answer critics to our system when they see us as protecting mediocrity in our schools.  

176

Bennett

Responds issue is broad and flexibility is in districts to arrive at choice.

183

Sen. Ferriolli

Comments need to focus attention on popularity of private schools and home-schooling knowing academically some schools in Oregon are suffering. Suggests the need to look at it as a case by case basis. Asks if there is an appeal process.

221

Marshall

Responds not aware of any statutory appeals process.

228

Sen. Deckert

Comments on schools needing to be funded.

238

Marshall

Responds bills would not be here if proper funding.

245

Sen. Ferriolli

Elaborates further on school funding.

266

Patty O’Sullivan

Portland Public Schools (PPS). Testifies in opposition of SB 282. Explains PPS system. Discusses parameters for transfers. 

332

Don Hansen

Oregon resident, Cresswell, Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 282. 

TAPE 22, B

005

Brian Reeder

Department of Education. Discusses concern to bill’s language regarding definition of space available. 

016

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if there can be space available.

019

Reeder

Responds there can be but capacity hard to do.

023

Doug Morgan

Vice-Chair, Silver Falls School District. Testifies in support of SB 282 for allowing school choice. People are on edge especially with Gervais School District and want to keep kids in school district and now robbed of opportunity.

066

Chair Starr

Asks for clarification on whether door is closed for future transfers.

072

Morgan

Responds there are no more transfers.

077

Sen. Deckert

Asks how many families affected retroactively.

080

Morgan

Responds at least 25 children mainly from same school.

091

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 282 and opens a public hearing on SB 283. 

SB 283 – PUBLIC HEARING

107

Chuck Bennett

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators (COSA). Testifies in opposition of SB 283. Discusses small districts and proper funding.

147

Sen. Ferriolli

Comments on consolidation of districts and things can change.

156

Bennett

Responds now is not the time to change.

160

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks if that advice tracks to adjustments to funding formulas and other controversial issues.

164

Bennett

Comments not asking for changes in funding formulas.

168

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if unified school district was part of the action.

171

Bennett

Responds does not know.

174

Sen. Morrisette

Elaborates further.

178

Chair Starr

Comments on underserved students. Asks whether charter schools would help meet the needs of students that might want to opt-out of the district they are presently engaged with.

201

Bennett

Responds charter schools is a successful choice developed in Oregon in a number of districts. States that array is available but problems arise where stable funded school districts break up around issues not addressing finance question.

220

Brian Reeder

Department of Education (DOE). Testifies DOE neutral on SB 283. Provides information on school study that district size matters in relation to costs. Suggests finances on school needs to be addressed with impact on community as well.

310

Alan Brown

Oregon State Representative. Discusses concern in Lincoln County  regarding balancing budget.

315

Ray Grady

Oregon resident, Lincoln County. Testifies in support of SB 283. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

TAPE 23, A

005

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether net personal income loss is per year.

008

Grady

Responds that is for salaries in the first year.

015

Sharon Branstiter

Mayor, City of Toledo. Testifies in support of SB 283. Discusses longstanding dissatisfaction in Lincoln County pertaining to schools.  Plea is to study districts and propose for smaller districts with need to protect smaller schools but not at a cost increase.

098

Sen. Morrisette

Comments would like to keep small schools intact.

113

Grady

Comments on cost of students leaving Eddyville School District.

133

Chair Starr

Closes the  public hearing on SB 283 and adjourns the meeting at 5:10 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 388, OSAA information packet, Tom Welter, 11 pp

B – SB 388, written testimony, Jeff Baker, 2 pp

C – SB 388, written testimony, Jim Keene, 6 pp

D – SB 282, new article, Chuck Bennett, 1 pp

E – SB 283, written testimony, Ray Grady, 4 pp

 

The following exhibit is listed out of order in the body of the tape log:

F – SB 388, -2 amendments dated 02/24/03, staff, 1 p