SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

March 11, 2003                                                                                                       Hearing Room C

3:00 PM                                                                                                                          Tapes 32-33

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charles Starr, Chair

Sen. Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Sen. Bill Morrisette

           

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jan McComb, Committee Administrator

Romy Dye, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 413 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 10 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 455 – Public Hearing and Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 32, A

005

Chair Starr

Calls the committee to order at 3:09 PM. Opens a public hearing on SB 413 .

SB 413 – PUBLIC HEARING

007

Greg Smith

Oregon State Representative. Testifies in favor of SB 413. States SB 413 will direct Eastern Oregon University (EOU) to study and plan for the expansion of Pierce Library at EOU which is a needed project.

025

David Nelson

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in favor of SB 413. States SB 413 is a step forward in preparing for the future at EOU.   

035

Phillip Creighton

President, Eastern Oregon University (EOU). Testifies in support of SB 413. Provides history of EOU. Discusses growth of Pierce Library. Submits written material (EXHIBIT A).

085

Patricia Cutright

Library Director, Eastern Oregon University (EOU). Testifies in support of SB 413. Discusses partnering aspects of Pierce Library. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

107

Jim Scheppke

Director, State Library. Testifies in favor of SB 413. States Pierce Library is inadequate and needs more space for books, technology and students. Adds no library in Oregon University System does more to serve their region of the state as Pierce Library.

127

Rob Wagner

Government Relations Director, American Federation Teachers Oregon (AFTO). Testifies in favor of SB 413. Reads testimony of Shirley Roberts, (EOU) librarian.

153

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 413 and opens a work session on SB 413.

SB 413 – WORK SESSION

158

Sen. Deckert

MOTION:  Moves SB 413 to Ways and Means by prior reference with a DO PASS recommendation.

163

 

VOTE:  4-0

 

Chair Starr

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

166

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 413 and opens a public hearing on SB 10.

SB 10 – PUBLIC HEARING

179

Peter Courtney

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

233

Laura Lanka

Principal, Woodburn High School. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Discusses well-prepared students not eligible for in-state tuition to continue to college. States SB 10 provides an affordable way to provide a university program.

289

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks how young Hispanic graduates of high school demonstrate future plans relative to legal status.

323

Courtney

Responds It is left up to administrative rule to be decided by the Board of the University System will decide kind of evidence or how want to deal with it.

344

Sen. Deckert

Feels not necessary to include language on becoming a citizen.

348

Courtney

Comments to refer to committee expertise and work session on how to handle situation. Adds language can be adjusted if offensive.

360

Sen. Ferrioli

Refers to issue of the alien status meant to possibly deal with issue of  asking why should Oregonians pay for education of residents in the state that are not legal residents or citizens of the United States. Asks why a question for just the higher education system.

376

Courtney

Responds there are very strict residency requirements to be admitted into our Oregon University System (OUS).

401

Sen. Ferriolli

Agrees for tuition purposes but feels there is not any other purpose. Asks if there is a student within the state who attended for three consecutive years in a secondary school and had a high school diploma would they be considered a resident for tuition purposes. Asks for clarification from OUS.

413

Courtney

Suggests bringing in someone from Legislative Counsel as well as OUS to help clarify.

418

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks whether liability follows if at some future date a student changes plans. Feels not adequate to base resident rate on assertion made by a student.

TAPE 33, A

005

Sen. Morrisette

Asks the minimum age for applying for citizenship.

010

Lanka

Responds eighteen years old and a resident for five years.

014

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if application for citizenship could be done simultaneously with the application for enrollment.

016

Chair Starr

Responds that is a possibility. Feels people around with good intentions of becoming citizens and if in system five years they have applied themselves to system and succeeded

018

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if unreasonable if students apply for enrollment for school in Oregon they also start citizenship process.

019

Courtney

Responds were attempting to suggest that in SB 10. States SB 10 is a good bill and main thing is students having a chance at in-state tuition.

022

Sen. Morrisette

Feels makes no difference if applying for citizenship, taking advantage of rates and making a decision on whether to leave or not. 

040

Kate Brown

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in favor of SB 10. States the goal of SB 10 is to allow students who have attended high school in Oregon for a number of years to be able to obtain in-state  tuition rates at Oregon colleges and universities. Feels really important to get college education if choose to do so that is critical for being successful in life. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

051

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks if there is something that connects tuition with immigration status.  

054

Brown

Responds has nothing to do with that issue.

073

Grattan Kerans

Director of Government Relations, Oregon University System (OUS). Testifies in favor of SB 10. Discusses purpose of amendment and administrative flexibility. Submits written testimony and material (EXHIBITS E, F).

187

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks if there is a solution being made more difficult than the problem.

197

Kerans

Responds need SB 10 in order to allow students to avail themselves to have resident tuition rates.

207

Sen. Ferriolli

Refers to question #5 on the written testimony questions stating that students who do not indicate their residency status in application are still eligible to attend the university system.

217

Kerans

Responds it may be possible for a student to represent their citizenship.

221

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks if a student arrives at the administration office with a high school diploma from Oregon or a GED what triggers question on residency status.

239

Kerans

Responds every student who comes would have to in the application process execute a notarized OUS residence information affidavit form. .

239

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks about tuition, citizenship and residence status.

244

Kerans

Discusses qualifications and requirements.

260

Sen. Ferriolli

Refers to Section 4 and whether this qualifies to the addition in filing of documentation.

268

Kerans

Responds if file affidavit and say no to demonstrate what status is there are elements of status in which person can qualify for and be eligible for consideration as an Oregon resident for tuition purposes.

280

Sen. Ferriolli

Comments it appears already have that authority.

282

Kerans

Reiterates SB 10 is needed but would be helpful but not necessary with the amendments.

290

Agnes Hoffman

Associate Vice-Provost for Enrollment Management and Student Affairs, Portland State University. Testifies in support of SB 10. Comments issue is mainly cost. Discusses benefits of SB 10:

·         Make education more affordable

·         Boost retention at K-12 level

·         Develop state’s human resources

·         Promote lawful pursuit of legal status and end price discrimination.

393

Sen. Ferriolli

States issue is about who shall pay in-state tuition. Asks how to write the rule to determine whether a student plans to be a citizen of this country or pursue legal status.

401

Hoffman

Responds if part of legislation, students would be asked to state that and it would be out in his or her confidential student file.

418

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks if confidential student file is confidential.

425

Hoffman

Responds yes it is.

432

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks who would see the document and would it be legally binding.

440

Hoffman

Responds would not show it to anyone but the student if they ask or if provided with legal subpoena. Adds cannot answer legal binding status question.

TAPE, 32, B

005

Leo Rasca-Hidalgo

Transfer Admission Advising Specialist, Western Oregon University (WOU). Testifies in support of SB 10. Discusses teaching career with students. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).

078

Sen. Ferriolli

Asks why SB 10 does not say a student needs to have resided here for three years or have a high school diploma or equivalency.

091

Hoffman

Responds that students who graduate from Oregon high schools and apply for admission to a state university system are not automatically granted tuition at resident rates because there must be continuous presence.

124

Chris Catbagan

Law student, University of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 10. Believes SB 10 is a way of rewarding deserving students. 

132

Brenda Sifuentez

Co-Chair, Oregon Students of Color Coalition. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H).

190

Jay Breslow

Member, Centro Latino Americano Multicultural Access Project. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Provides introduction of students present and asks for them to stand and state name and school.

200

Students

State name and school.

338

Breslow

Feels SB 10 is an amazing opportunity for students and graduates.

360

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if SB 10 affects the community colleges.

363

Andrea Henderson

Executive Director, Oregon Community College Association. Responds that it is not affected.

387

Sen. Morrisette

Asks for clarification of out-of-state tuition.

389

Henderson

Responds community colleges currently have different tuition rates for people who are in-state or out-of-state which only affects people who are permanent residents of out of this state. States by administrative rule community colleges have a ninety day residency requirement.

400

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether it has regard to citizenship.

403

Henderson

Responds no it does not.

405

Sen. Morrisette

Asks whether by administrative rule.

407

Henderson

Responds yes it is.

408

Eduardo Angulo

Chairman, Salem-Keizer Coalition for Equality. Testifies in support of SB 10. States every child has a constitutional guarantee and SB 10 would better the economy in Oregon.

TAPE 33, B

010

Rosemary Cooperrider

Oregon resident. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I).

031

Verne Cooperrider

Board Member, Oregon Farm Worker Ministry. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Feels great opportunity for those who otherwise would not be able to afford a college education.

059

Cassandra Villanueva

Student, Chemeketa Community College. Testifies in support of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J).

090

Abel Carbajal

Chair, Latinos Unidos Siempre (LUS). Testifies in favor of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K).

105

Peter Hainley

Executive Director, Community and Shelter Assistance Corporation. Testifies in favor of SB 10. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L).

120

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 10 and opens a work session on SB 10.

SB 10 – WORK SESSION

134

Sen. Deckert

Comments testimony was invigorating.

136

Sen. Ferriolli

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 10 -2 amendments dated 04/25/03.  (EXHIBIT V)

137

 

VOTE:  4-0

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

138

Sen. Ferriolli

MOTION:  Moves SB 10 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

143

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. COURTNEY will lead discussion on the floor.

154

Chair Starr

Expresses gratitude for testimony. Provides personal example. Closes the work session on SB 10 and opens a public hearing on SB 455.

SB 455 – PUBLIC HEARING

183

Bill Morrisette

Oregon State Senator. Testifies in support of SB 455. Summarizes SB 455.

219

Chair Starr

Asks about -1 amendments.

223

Sen. Morrisette

Responds others will speak on -1 amendments.  

227

Andrea Henderson

Executive Director, Oregon Community College Association. Testifies in support of  SB 455 with -1 amendments.

253

Cam Preus-Braly

Commissioner for Community Colleges. Testifies in favor of SB 455. Feel SB 455 would be step in right direction to know what it costs to educate over 400,000 community colleges a year.   

271

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 455 and opens a work session on SB 455.

SB 455 – WORK SESSION

275

Sen. Ferriolli

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 455-1 amendments dated 03/11/03.  (EXHIBIT W)

277

 

VOTE:  4-0

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

280

Sen. Ferriolli

MOTION:  Moves SB 455 to Ways and Means by prior reference with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

285

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

291

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 455 and adjourns the meeting at 4:58 PM.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for SB 455:

                      Deisy Monzon             Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M)

                     Guadalupe Quinn        Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N)

                      Alejandro Vazquez     Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O)

                      Amy Torres                 Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P)

                      Carlos Garcia              Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q)

                      Jose de Jesus                Submits written testimony (R)

                      Sandoval-Arellano     

                      Alicia Garcia               Submits written testimony (S)

                      Roscoe Caron              Submits written testimony (T)

                      Javier Cervantes        Submits written testimony (U)

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 413, Eastern Oregon University information packet, Phillip Creighton, 7 pp

B – SB 413, written testimony, Patricia Cutright, 1 p

C – SB 10, written testimony, Senator Peter Courtney, 2 pp

D – SB 10, written testimony, Senator Kate Brown, 1 p

E – SB 10, written testimony, Grattan Kerans 2 pp

F – SB 10, question sheet regarding determining in-state residency at OUS institutions , Grattan Kerans, 3 pp

G – SB 10, overview packet, Dr. Leo Rasca-Hidalgo, 6 pp

H – SB 10, written testimony, Brenda Sifuentez, 1 p

I – SB 10, written testimony, Rosemary Cooperrider, 1 p

J – SB 10, written testimony, Cassandra Villanueva, 1 p

K – SB 10, written testimony, Abel Carbajal, 1 p

L – SB 10, written testimony, Peter Hainley, 1 p

M – SB 10, additional written testimony, Deisy Monzon, 1 p

N – SB 10, additional written testimony, Guadalupe Quinn, 1 p

O – SB 10, additional written testimony, Alejandro Vazquez, 1 p

P – SB 10, additional written testimony, Amy Torres, 1 p

Q – SB 10, additional written testimony, Carlos Garcia, 1 p

R – SB 10, additional written testimony, Jose de Jesus Sandoval-Arellano, 1 p

S – SB 10, additional written testimony, Alicia Garcia, 1 p

T – SB 10, additional written testimony, Roscoe Caron, 1 p

U – SB 10, additional written testimony, Javier Cervantes, 1 p

 

The following exhibits are listed out of order in the body of the log:

V - SB 10, -2 amendments dated 04/25/03,  staff,

W – SB 455, -1 amendments dated 03/11/03, staff,