SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

May 1, 2003                                                                                                            Hearing Room C

3:00 PM                                                                                                                           Tape 69-70

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charles Starr, Chair

Sen. Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jan McComb, Committee Administrator

Heather Gravelle, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 272 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 767 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 69, A

005

Chair Starr

Calls the meeting to order at 3:05 p.m.Opens a public hearing on SB 272.

SB 272 – PUBLIC HEARING

008

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of SB 272. Presents the -2 amendments, dated 5/1/03 to SB 272 (EXHIBIT A).

010

Frank Brawner

Fair Dismissal Board. Testifies in support of SB 272 with the -2 amendments.

020

Karen Brazeau

Director, Oregon Youth Authority. Testifies in support of SB 272 with the -2 amendments. Provides Written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

036

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 272. Opens a public hearing on SB 767.

SB 767 – PUBLIC HEARING

050

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 767, and the -1, -2 and -3 amendments.

060

Rob Kremer

Oregon Education Coalition. Testifies in support of SB 767 with the -2 amendments. Provides written testimony (EXHIBIT C). Explains position and states intent of the -2 amendments.

085

Kremer

States SB 767 will eliminate both the CIM and the CAM testing. Mentions ongoing problems with testing students in Oregon.

122

Kremer

Continues explaining the challenges the schools are facing regarding testing. Comments on having third party testing. Explains it would end up costing less money than maintaining the current testing system.

180

Dawn Phillips

Chief of Staff, Rep. Randy Miller. Here to answer any questions. States she brought research to prove the current system is flawed. Adds the issue needs to be addressed immediately, on behalf of the children and their parents.

220

Diane Waldron

Retired Public School Teacher. Testifies in support of SB 767. Relates personal experience with the current testing system. States the current tests are not standard, model or typical.

260

Steve Novick

Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in opposition of SB 767. Provides written testimony (EXHIBITS D) and presents statistical information (EXHIBIT E). States the current CIM and CAM assessment testing system is working fine. Adds it is a valid system that has undergone outside reviews.

TAPE 70, A

005

Novick

Explains the Federal Government approved the CIM and CAM testing system. Believes it is not a conflict of interest to the teachers or the department to create the exam questions.

020

Sen. Morrisette

Asks why health education wasn’t added to the system.

025

Bill Auty

Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in opposition of SB 767. Answers health education is part of the current testing system.

108

Chair Starr

Inquires what percentage of those who graduated went through CIM and CAM assessment testing.

115

Auty

Responds 25-35%.

120

Sen. Morrisette

Comments it’s not a gradation requirement. Adds as far as being accepted at a college or university, other national exams are the determining factor.

245

Sen. Morrisette

Clarifies the parents should have some kind of influence on what kind of testing is conducted at the schools.

250

Auty

Responds and explains if there is a problem with the testing system, that specific school is notified.

270

Chair Starr

Speaks in regards to the three level exams. Asks if a student took the test three times, would the placement be the same.

310

Auty

Explains in detail how the tests function. Adds either the child is well above the standard, or well below the standard.

350

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if all the tests before CIM and CAM are invalid. Explains how it worked before. Adds more information is need on the current system.

TAPE 69, B

010

Sen. Ferrioli

States what he understood of the three level of testing.

020

Chair Starr

Explains that three different tests are  utilized for each grade level. States as an example, if a second grader was tested on a subject, they would take all three tests on that subject until they pass.

050

Kremer

Agrees.

075

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 767. Opens a work session on SB 272.

SB 272 – WORK SESSION

085

Sen. Deckert

MOTION: Moves adoption of the -2 amendments, dated 5/1/03 to SB 272.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

090

Chair Starr

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

095

Sen. Deckert

MOTION: Moves SB 272 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

105

Chair Starr

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor.

115

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 272. Adjourns the meeting at 4:20 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 272, -2 amendments dated 5/1/03, staff, 7 pp

B – SB 272, written testimony, Karen Brazeau, 1 p

C – SB 767, written testimony, Rob Kremer, 2 pp

D – SB 767, written testimony, Steve Novick, 12 pp

E – SB 767, statistical information, Steve Novick, 1 p