SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

May 20, 2003                                                                                                          Hearing Room C

3:00 PM                                                                                                                          Tapes 71-72

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charles Starr, Chair

Sen. Ryan Deckert, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Ted Ferriolli

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jan McComb, Committee Administrator

Romy Dye, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 897 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2894A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3557 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 456A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2744A – Public Hearing and Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 71, A

005

Chair Starr

Calls the committee to order at 3:06 PM . Opens a public hearing on SB 897.

SB 897 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of SB 897.

017

Eduardo Angulo

Chairman, Salem/Keizer Coalition for Equality. Testifies in favor of SB 897. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).

090

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if there is any anecdotal information on how money is not being spent.

093

Angulo

Responds yes. States they have been working with Salem Keizer School District. Provides example.

116

Annalivia Palazzo-Angulo

Teacher. Testifies in support of SB 897. Discusses programs. States bilingual programs and trained professionals are what needs to be funded. Lists problems experiencing that need to be addressed.

210

Samuel Davila

Former Director, Commission on Hispanic Affairs. Testifies in favor of SB 897. Discusses SB 897. Comments more people being sent to prisons than enrolling in a college. Comments understanding how these monies are used is not just good business policy but good public policy.

248

Steve Novick

Legislative Coordinator, Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in favor of SB 897. States the superintendent will comply with the bill. States the Department has some misleading information acquired on how much money has been spent on ELL programs. Comments know districts are doing something but look at numbers and it does not seem like it.  

271

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if Mr. Novick’s districts do a municipal audit.

275

Novick

Responds yes.

278

Sen. Morrisette

Comments that is required of charter school and hopes that a public school system could keep track of finances too.

280

Novick

Comments the Department in this study hopes to hire an ELL specialist to go out to a few schools in each category and come back with a report and recommendations on how department can rephrase question when goes to ask all districts. 

293

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if language is adequate enough.  

297

Novick

Responds the language in the bill is adequate. 

303

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if you will write administrative rules on the language and require school districts to respond because this is a legislative direction.

310

Novick

Responds does not know if administrative rules will be written but based on the fact the legislature will have passed a bill the district will understand this is a subject the legislature and department are interested in and hope to get good cooperation.

313

Sen. Morrisette

Feels directing you to do a study is not adequate language.  

317

Laurie Wimmering

Oregon Education Association. Testifies in favor of SB 897. Comments on problem that exists which is inadequate resources to do what like to do for students of Oregon.   

338

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 897 and opens a work session on SB 897.

SB 897 – WORK SESSION

365

Sen. Deckert

MOTION:  Moves SB 897 with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

370

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if there is a fiscal.

373

Chair Starr

Responds no fiscal but a referral.

376

Sen. Deckert

Comments on never having seen so many referrals.

379

Sen. Morrisette

Comments if no visible fiscal impact moves to rescind.

383

Sen. Deckert

Claims this does not need to go to Ways and Means.

385

Chair Starr

Comments just received testimony they would be hiring someone with experience to go out.

389

Sen. Morrisette

Feels inadequate direction and a copout needing stronger language. Urges better guidance and management. Hopes if dedicate money to particular program that there be some way of tracking it and if money not used it should be withdrawn. States should not allow the district for something else with pretext it will be used for this program. Adds good intent but hope to revisit next session.

397

 

VOTE:  3-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Ferriolli

 

Chair Starr

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

403

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 897 and opens a public hearing on HB 2894A.

HB 2894A – PUBLIC HEARING

424

Phil Barnhart

Oregon State Representative, District 11. Testifies in favor of HB 2894A.

TAPE 72, A

005

Barnhart

Continues discussion on purpose of the bill. Feels -A2 amendments are okay.

017

Steve Novick

Legislative Coordinator, Department of Education. Testifies in favor of HB 2894A. States the Superintendent supports the bill. Discusses -2 amendments. Presents -A2 amendments dated 5-9-03 (EXHIBIT G).

041

Randy Harnisch

Department of Education. Discusses shorter school year for over twenty-five school districts. Discusses the bill in compliance within and not within statutory framework.

058

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on HB 2894A and opens a work session on HB 2894A.

HB 2894A –WORK SESSION

063

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2894A -A2 amendments dated 5/9/03.

065

 

VOTE:  3-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Ferriolli

 

Chair Starr

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

068

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves HB 2894A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

070

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Ferriolli

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor.

071

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on HB 2894A and opens a public hearing on HB 3557.

HB 3557 – PUBLIC HEARING

080

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3557.

088

Jim Green

Oregon School Boards Association. Testifies in support of HB 3557. Discusses the bill. Explains cost problem. Comments on charter schools. States the bill is a mechanism to allow school districts looking to create charter schools a way to save money, get rid of duplicative requirements for nonprofit and 501 C3 and give them ability to go ahead and create charter school without having additional costs.

138

Sen. Morrisette

Comments on cost issue.  

142

Green

Responds there are school districts who form charter school boards. .States some places need to hire someone to make the 501 C3 application which is not difficult but is a timely process with forms that need filling out properly.

155

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on HB 3557 and opens a work session on HB 3557.

HB 3557 – WORK SESSION

160

Sen. Deckert

MOTION:  Moves HB 3557 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

165

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Ferriolli

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

CHAIR STARR will lead discussion on the floor.

172

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on HB 3557 and opens a public hearing on SB 456A.

SB 456A – PUBLIC HEARING

175

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of SB 456A. Discusses reason why bill pulled back to floor.

185

Sen. Morrisette

Reads pages of material from an internet website. Expresses interest in the bill.  

230

Sen. Deckert

Asks if it is known the federal government is going to pass.

233

Sen. Morrisette

Responds have no reason to believe it will not pass.

250

Sen. Deckert

Comments on why a no vote before. Adds hesitant to support the bill but he will.

272

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on SB 456A and opens a work session on SB 456A.

SB 456A – WORK SESSION

278

Sen. Morrisette

MOTION:  Moves SB 456A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

285

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Ferriolli

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor.

293

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on SB 456A and opens a public hearing on HB 2744A.

HB 2744A – PUBLIC HEARING

300

Jan McComb

Committee Administrator. Provides overview of HB 2744A.

366

Pat Burk

Deputy Superintendent for Education Policy at Oregon Department of Education. Discusses main points of the bill. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

TAPE 71, B

005

Burk

Discusses off the shelf tests. Comments on being proud of test questions on the test. Summarizes cost of administering certain tests. Explains portfolios and work samples.

081

Vic Backlund

Oregon State Representative. Provides history leading to development of HB 2744A.

142

Elaine Hopson

Oregon State Representative. Adds a few key points in what has been done with the bill. States higher education is ready to step in and support the program.. Comments progress has been made and developed by state holders and modified a lot in twelve years. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

201

Sen. Morrisette

Reads email received on kids nutrition., obesity, etc. Asks if aware of data information that has come out about problems with school kids. Expresses concerns with taking out physical education program from schools.  

223

Backlund

Comments this bill does not change graduation requirements and high school curriculum requirements. Feels physical education will not go away but won’t be as ideal as would like.

249

Sen. Morrisette

Expresses concern that nutrition would possibly suffer and it needs to continue to be developed. 

257

Backlund

Believes this bill does address that.

261

Hopson

Comments in addition to physical education and health areas concerned with, foreign language and social studies were also discussed to a great extent. Adds would have liked to keep everything but it was a compromised position to slow the forward progress down and not take things away.

274

Backlund

Comments on reasons for the bill. Discusses the value of the CIM. States this is a good bill.

323

Sen. Deckert

Comments on loss of three areas of study. Asks how the Governor when the bill is signed will deal with three areas which are math, physical education and social studies.  

343

Hopson

Believes the area impacted will be second language. Comments foreign language is needed to be a success but unfortunately some things will be cut.

362

Ozzie Rose

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators. Speaks on behalf of John Marshall. Discusses creating subjects and getting endorsements in other areas. Describes as standards are moved higher they have to make sure kids meet standards.

TAPE 72, B

005

Rose

Continues discussion. Discusses CIM.

018

BethAnne Darby

Oregon Education Association.. Believes HB 2744A is a reasonable modification of CIM requirements to align them with No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) given tough economic times we are in. Discusses purpose of HB 2744A. Discusses needs of programs with tough economy. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

035

John Valley

Oregon Advocacy Director for American Heart Association. Testifies in opposition of HB 2744A in current version. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

119

Chair Starr

Asks about whether Department of Health develops health standards for using national standards.  

124

Burk

Responds that is correct.

126

Chair Starr

Asks if that would be accomplished within the department’s budget.

129

Burk

Responds that is correct.

133

Sen. Morrisette

Concerned there will be no assessment on how children throughout the state meet standards.  

140

Burk

Responds it is true of a mandatory assessment of health or physical education knowledge. States high state standards form core foundation around which the state curriculum is billed. Adds assessments may not be mandatory but core content is contained in mandatory curriculum. 

152

Sen. Morrisette

Asks how long Mr. Burk has been with Department of Education.

154

Burk

Responds since October.

156

Sen. Morrisette

Expresses concern but supporting bill as written. States nutrition is a big problem.

173

Burk

Believes strongly in health and physical education program. Comments it should not be ignored or taken lightly. Expresses need to maintain standards and assessments. 

216

Chair Starr

Closes the public hearing on HB 2744A and opens a work session on HB 2744A.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for HB 2744A:

                      Bob Willner                   Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F)

HB 2744A – WORK SESSION

230

Sen. Deckert

Echoes concerns John Valley had with the bill for Don Zaring, a teacher in his district who helped author HB 3307.

237

Sen. Deckert

MOTION:  Moves HB 2744A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

243

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Starr

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor.

247

Chair Starr

Closes the work session on HB 2744A. Adjourns the committee meeting at 4:50 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 897, written testimony, Eduardo Angulo, 2 pp

B – HB 2744A, written testimony, Pat Burk, 4 pp

C – HB 2744A, written testimony, Elaine Hopson, 1p

D – HB 2744A, written testimony, BethAnne Darby, 1p

E – HB 2744A, written testimony, John Valley, 2 pp

F – HB 2744A, written testimony, Bob Willner, 2 pp

 

The following exhibits are listed out of order in the body of the tape log:

 

G – HB 2894A, -A2 amendments dated 5/19/03, Steve Novick, 3 pp