SENATE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT

 

 

May 19, 2003                                                                                                          Hearing Room B

3:00 P.M.                                                                                                                        Tapes 56-57

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Tony Corcoran, Chair

Sen. John Minnis, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bruce Starr

Sen. Vicki Walker

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Mark Ellsworth, Committee Administrator

Heather Gravelle, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           HB 2893 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 2743 A – Work Session

                                                HB 3061 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SJM 6 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 3212 – Public Hearing and Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 56, A

005

Chair Corcoran

Calls the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 2893 A.

HB 2893 A – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Sen. Frank Morse

District 8. Testifies in opposition of HB 2893. Provides information on the roles of the Board of Geologists Examiners. Explains the Board provides the boundaries in which the profession will operate.

025

Sen. Morse

States in respect to HB 2893 A, you need to distinguish what is a broad public policy and the interest of one individual.

035

Rep. Phil Barnhart

District 11. Testifies in support of HB 2893 A. Provides background and history of the bill. Explains HB 2893 A establishes fundamental rights, and the scope of the practice of geology, which does not include testifying at a public hearing.

100

Chair Corcoran

States as an outsider, the Board seems to make decisions that are highly questionable constitutionally.

115

Rep. Barnhart

Clarifies HB 2893 A does not allow anyone to start practicing geology. Explains it won’t change the requirements to become a geologist. Adds it simply says anyone can come to a public hearing and testify on a geology issue.

140

Sen. Starr

Inquires why the Consulting Engineer Geologists are so upset over HB 2893 A.

145

Rep. Barnhart

Suggests people are reviewing the earliest version of HB 2893 A. Explains it has been amended and is now simplified.

155

Mark Reed

Professor of Geology, University of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2893 A. States the bill clarifies the practice of geology. Provides written testimony (EXHIBITS A & B).

185

Reed

Explains the bill is narrowly defined.

225

John Beaulieu

Director of Geology. Testifies in opposition of HB 2893 A. Provides written testimony (EXHIBIT C).Provides background and history. Adds the specific case that brought the issue forward. Expresses the need to maintain some kind of standards and ethics regarding geology.

305

Sen. Walker

Inquires if HB 2893 A passed, would it allow a person to give false testimony without being reviewed by the Board first.

310

Beaulieu

Answers he feels it will.

340

Gary Peterson

Registered geologist. Testifies in opposition of HB 2893 A. Provides written testimony (EXHIBIT D). Explains why he is opposed. States the bill undermines accountability. States he doesn’t believe the language in current statute is unconstitutional.

TAPE 57, A

030

Dr. Steve Taylor

Assistant Director of Geology. Mentions credentials. Testifies as neutral on HB 2893 A. Provides written testimony (EXHIBIT E). Expresses there is a regulated framework for standards and practicing geology. Appreciates the freedom of speech, but on this issue, there is the potential of weakening licensing standards.

085

Chair Corcoran

Closes the public hearing on HB 2893 A. Opens a work session on HB 2893 A.

HB 2893 A – WORK SESSION

095

Sen. Minnis

MOTION: Moves HB 2893 A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

100

Chair Corcoran

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. MINNIS will lead discussion on the floor.

115

Chair Corcoran

Closes the work session on HB 2893 A. Opens a work session on HB 2743 A.

HB 2743 A – WORK SESSION

120

Sen. Minnis

MOTION: Moves HB 2743 A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

125

Chair Corcoran

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. CORCORAN and SEN. MINNIS will lead discussion on the floor.

130

Chair Corcoran

Closes the work session on HB 2743 A. Opens a public hearing on HB 3061 A.

HB 3061 A – PUBLIC HEARING

140

Mark Ellsworth

Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3061 A.

145

Jon Chandler

Land Use Specialist, Oregon Building Industry Association. Testifies in support of HB 3061 A. Provides written testimony. (EXHIBIT F). Explains the intent of HB 3061 A.

150

Chair Corcoran

Closes the public hearing on HB 3061 A. Opens a work session on HB 3061 A.

HB 3061 A – WORK SESSION

165

Sen. Starr

MOTION: Moves HB 3061 A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

170

Chair Corcoran

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. STARR will lead discussion on the floor.

175

Chair Corcoran

Closes the work session on HB 3061 A. Opens a public hearing on SJM 6.

SJM 6 – PUBLIC HEARING

180

Mark Ellsworth

Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SJM 6.

185

Jon Mangis

Veterans Affairs. Testifies in support of SJM 6. States the history and background. Expresses changing how things are done now to help those in the future. Continues explaining that many states are working on similar legislation.

200

Chair Corcoran

Asks why the issue hasn’t been addressed before.

225

Mangis

Responds and provides information.

255

Walter Crews

Legislative representative. Testifies in support of SJM 6. Explains position and why he is supportive. Adds NCOA does support the bill.

260

Greg Warnock

Oregon Veteran’s Association. Testifies in support of SJM 6. States position. Mentions credentials.

280

Sen. Walker

Expresses it is shameful that no one has moved on the issue. Adds it needs to be changed in Congress.

283

Chair Corcoran

Closes the public hearing on SJM 6. Opens a work session on SJM 6.

SJM 6 – WORK SESSION

285

Sen. Minnis

MOTION: Moves SJM 6 to the floor with a DO ADOPT recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

290

Chair Corcoran

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. MINNIS will lead discussion on the floor.

295

Chair Corcoran

Closes the work session on SJM 6. Opens a public hearing on HB 3212 A.

HB 3212 A – PUBLIC HEARING

300

Mark Ellsworth

Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3212.

325

Greg Warnock

Oregon Veteran’s Association. Testifies in support of HB 3212 A. Explains position. States the intent of the bill. Expresses the reason he is supportive, is because it distinguishes and offers a leave of absence for employees of the National Guard.

360

Dennis Hooyman

Veteran. Testifies in support of HB 3212 A. States position and expresses how important it is to pass the bill.

365

Jon Mangis

Department of Veterans Affairs. Testifies in support of HB 3212 A. Expresses the difference between HB 3212 A and SB 325.

TAPE 56, B

005

Chair Corcoran

Closes the public hearing on HB 3212 A. Opens a work session on HB 3212 A.

HB 3212 – WORK SESSION

005

Sen. Starr

MOTION: Moves HB 3212 A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-0

010

Chair Corcoran

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. STARR will lead discussion on the floor.

015

Chair Corcoran

Closes the work session on HB 3212 A. Adjourns the meeting at 4:05 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2893 A, written testimony, Mark Reed, 11 pp

B – HB 2893 A, written testimony, Mark Reed, 4 pp

C – HB 2893 A, written testimony, John Beaulieu, 2 pp

D – HB 2893 A, written testimony, Gary L. Peterson, 4 pp

E – HB 2893 A, written testimony, Steve Taylor, 2 pp

F – HB 3061 A, written testimony, Jon Chandler, 1 p