SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
February 27, 2003 Hearing
Room B
1:00 PM Tapes
26 - 28
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Bill Morrisette, Chair
Sen. Bill Fisher, Vice-Chair
Sen. John Minnis
Sen. Frank Shields
Sen. Charles Starr
Sen. Vicki Walker
STAFF PRESENT: Marjorie Taylor, Administrator
Saranelle Allen, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 436 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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Comments |
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Tape 26, A |
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Chair Morrisette |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:08 p.m. Opens a public hearing on SB 436. |
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SB 436
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Marjorie Taylor |
Administrator.
Gives a brief description of the bill. |
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Kathleen Haley |
Executive Director, Board of Medical Examiners. Speaks in opposition of portions of SB 436
on pain philosophy. Explains the
information packet concerns intractable pain and the philosophy on pain
management (EXHIBIT A). Recommends the use of a second opinion
from a specialist. |
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Sen. Minnis |
Asks for clarification on the 1997 changes on the statute. |
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Haley |
Responds concerning the issue of having a specialist
give a second opinion on a patient with chronic pain, and if none were
available a waiver could be utilized. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Gives more information on the changes made in the
statute mentioned. |
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Dr. Vern Williams |
Medical Director, NARA clinic in Portland. Speaks in favor of SB 436 as written,
since his experiences in the trenches allow him to prescribe and treat
patients as the law permits. Gives
specifics on reasons he does not support the proposed changes. |
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Sen. Minnis |
Conversations continue back and forth with Williams.
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Sen. Joan Dukes |
Senate District 16.
Speaks in favor of SB 436, with some background on her involvement
with the Oregon Commission on Pain Management, and states that Representative
Hansen and she have been appointed as ex-officio members to that
commission. Reviews that intractable
pain, for which Oregon requires a second opinion, is the only condition that
causes delay in treating pain. States
that this statute is the only one that is considered a ‘barrier’. |
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Rep. Gary Hansen |
House District 44.
Gives testimony on pain management encountered when his wife was
diagnosed with cancer. Reviews
differences in pain management rules with specific diseases. Speaks in favor of SB 436, and feels all
three bills on today’s agenda would benefit acute pain management. |
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Tape 27, A |
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Rep. Hansen |
States he would like to see some of these barriers
to pain management removed. |
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Sen. Walker |
Asks several questions for understanding of pain
treatment issues. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Asks about removing waivers, and would it help the
situation. |
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Sen. Dukes |
States it may help, but in rural communities waivers
would be needed every time, since a second opinion may not be easy to access. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Asks why the bills were rearranged on the program, since
they all were tied in together. |
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Sen. Dukes |
Gives further clarification on the intent of the
other bill. |
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Kathy Hann |
Doctor of Pharmacy and Chair of Pain Commission. Explains her concern over why pain
management doesn’t happen the way it’s intended in Oregon. Explains that there are two parts in the
program, 1) continuing education for physicians, and 2) understanding what
barriers we have and how to free them up.
Reviews the Wisconsin Pain and Policies group that sets the standards
in the nation, and explains where Oregon stands. States that the Oregon Intractable Pain Act is way too narrow. Feels the law has intimidated doctors. |
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Sen. Minnis |
Asks questions on how a pharmacy tracks prescriptions,
and are doctors writing more script than appears reasonable. |
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Hann |
Replies through computer files and interacting with
the Pain Society of Oregon. |
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Sen. Shields |
Asks how many states require the double law. |
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Hann |
States that about 45 states are less restrictive in
pain management laws than Oregon. |
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Hann |
Reviews the procedure a doctor would have to go thru
if the Board has complaints on his processing of medication. |
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Dr. Allan Chino |
Clinical Health Psychologist and President of
American Academy of Clinical Health Psychology and on the Pain Management Commission. |
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Reviews how difficult it is for patients to find
doctors to treat chronic pain, and most of the reasons are due to the law
being so strong in prescribing medications. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Asks if changing the wording on the bill would
eliminate the barrier. |
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Chino |
Reviews pain and addiction question, and how to find
specialists to treat these cases. States that a lot of cases are under medicated. |
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Tape 26, B |
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Dr. Hank Holmes |
Family physician. Gives testimony on practicing
chronic pain management medicine, and has been a medical director for pain
centers. States his support to SB 436 and submits model guidelines from the Federation
of State Medical Boards (EXHIBIT B). |
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Stresses that there is a need for education in the use
of drugs for managing pain, but the main issue is that the law inhibits the
doctor’s ability to assist patients.
Asks that Oregon state adopt the pain guidelines as noted in the exhibit. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Asks if some of the wording was changed in SB 434,
how it would impact the other bills. |
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Sen. Shields |
Notes that in the model guidelines #4 & #5, on periodic
review and consultation, there is no mention of a second opinion. |
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Holmes |
States that there are only two states that have any
requirement for a second opinion.
Feels we have fallen behind in the country. |
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Tape 27, B |
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Edward Johnston |
Lincoln County.
Gives testimony on his chronic pain.
Expresses concern on signing any waivers which would allow authorities
into his home. Gives further testimony
on his medical history. |
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Sen. Minnis |
Communicates back and forth between Haley and
Williams, on continuing education for doctors, the waiver process, and laws
enacted. |
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Kathleen Haley |
Explains the make-up of the Board of Medical
Examiners. |
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Sen. Shields |
Feels Dr. Williams’ work with NARA is dealing more
with patients who have addiction problems.
Asks if the model document is good and why haven’t we adopted the
model guidelines before now. |
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Sen. Shields |
Wants to know if there is good science. |
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Haley |
States that their board would discipline physicians for
under prescribing to patients, as well. |
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Sen. Fisher |
Explains that the problem is how to measure pain in
diagnosing medications. |
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Tape 28, A |
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Sen. Minnis |
States his personal knowledge of pain management,
and the importance of allowing physicians to prescribe drugs without
fear. |
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Chair Morrisette |
Adjourns meeting at 3:04 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 436, written testimony, Kathleen Haley, 19 pp.
B
– SB 436, written testimony, Dr. Hank Holmes, 10 pp.