SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

 

 

January 29, 2003                                                                                                 Hearing Room 343

9:00 a.m.                                                                                                                         Tapes 9 - 10

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. John Minnis, Chair

Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Sen. Charlie Ringo

Sen. Charles Starr

Sen. Vicki Walker

 

GUEST MEMBERS:             Rep. Billy Dalto

                                                Rep. Jeff Kruse

                                                Rep. Carolyn Tomei

                                                Rep. Monnes Anderson

                                                Rep. Ben Westlund

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Bill Taylor, Counsel

                                                Jane Bodenweiser, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           Informational Meeting

“People with Mental Illness in our Criminal Justice System”

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 9, A

005

Chair Minnis

Calls the meeting to order at 9:15 am and introduces the guest members of the committee on Health and Human Services.

010

Daniel Souweine

Council of State Governments, New York.  Introduces the three presenters:  Dr. Fred Osher, Captain John Caceci and Dr. David Wertheimer.

055

Dr. Fred Osher

Center for Behavioral Health, Justice & Public Safety.  Shares how other communities are dealing with mental health in the criminal justice system.  Gives a power point presentation (EXHIBIT A).

135

Rep. Kruse

Asks for clarification of “ETOH”.

136

Osher

Says it is alcohol.

139

Osher

Continues his presentation.

151

Sen. Ringo

Asks about the violence issue.

159

Osher

Says violence mainly comes from seeking funds to support a habit.

174

Osher

Continues his presentation.  Says people with mental illness have a higher rate of repeat incarceration.

274

Rep. Dalto

Asks for success stories.

284

Osher

Says there are some and will be some discussed.

333

Capt. John Caceci

Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, Monroe County, New York.  Discusses the criminal justice perspective.  Gives examples of the Monroe County Jail’s mentally ill population.

TAPE 10, A

003

Caceci

Continues his presentation.  Discusses release planning.

067

Osher

Introduces some solutions to the mental health crisis through the “Consensus Project”.

111

Osher

Discusses the fiscal implications to the mental health budget.

130

Dr. David Wertheimer

Principal, Kelly Point Partners, Seattle, WA.  Talks about the “price tags” when people with mental illness become involved in the criminal justice system.  Discusses the “Dan Van Ho” case.

297

Rep. Tomei

Asks how Dan Van Ho could have been kept incarcerated.

300

Wertheimer

Explains the evaluation process.

365

Wertheimer

Discusses programs started in Washington State to help the mentally ill offender.

TAPE 9, B

015

Chair Minnis

Talks about the failure of the criminal justice system in helping the mentally ill.

028

Vice Chair Burdick

Asks about diverting funds from other programs to assist the mentally ill.

035

Wertheimer

Gives an example of a program in Washington State.

087

Chair Minnis

Thanks the presenters for their time.  Adjourns the meeting at 10: 20 a.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Printed material presented by Fred Osher, MD, Captain John Caceci, and David

       Wertheimer, 44 pp