SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 06, 2003 Hearing
Room 343
8:00 a.m. Tapes
120-121
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. John Minnis, Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Charles Starr
Sen. Vicki Walker
STAFF PRESENT: Craig Prins, Counsel
Bill Joseph, Counsel
Jane Bodenweiser, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 27 Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2150A Work Session
SB 466 Work Session
SB 52 Work Session
SB 301 Work Session
SB 421 Work Session
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 120,
A |
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004 |
Chair Minnis |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:15 a.m. and opens a public
hearing on SB 27. |
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SB 27
PUBLIC HEARING |
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008 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Senate District 18.
Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 27 that provides
person with claim for damages for unconscionable tactic (EXHIBIT A). |
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059 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on SB 27 and opens a work
session on HB 2150A. |
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HB
2150A WORK SESSION |
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061 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces HB 2150A that specifies that copy of small estate affidavit
must be mailed or delivered to Estate Administration Unit of Department of
Human Services. |
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086 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves HB 2150A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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091 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. C. STARR will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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093 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on HB 2150A and opens a work
session on SB 466. |
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SB 466 WORK
SESSION |
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095 |
Chair Minnis |
Introduces SB 466 that creates crimes of unlawful
use of theft detection shielding device and unlawful use of theft detection
device deactivator or remover and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
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103 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 466-1 amendments dated
3/24/03. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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109 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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117 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 466 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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121 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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132 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 466 and opens a work
session on SB 52. |
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SB 52 WORK
SESSION |
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116 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces SB 52 that creates crime of aggravated identity theft and
the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C). |
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145 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 52-3 amendments dated
5/5/03. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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148 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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152 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 52 to the floor with a DO PASS AS
AMENDED recommendation. |
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155 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about another bill on identity theft. |
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158 |
Prins |
Explains the difference between the two bills. |
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208 |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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209 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. MINNIS will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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210 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 52 and re-opens the
public hearing on SB 27 that provides person with claim for damages for
unconscionable tactic. |
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SB 27
PUBLIC HEARING |
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214 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Introduces the -2 amendments to SB 27 (EXHIBIT D). |
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229 |
Sen. Ringo |
Believes that the amendments are too broad and would
prefer the exemption on page 2, line 10 be removed. |
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260 |
Cheryl Pellegrini |
Department of Justice. Testifies in support of SB 27.
Clarifies what this bill would achieve. |
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351 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Clarifies the concern about telemarketers and what
services they would be able to provide. |
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367 |
Pellegrini |
Discusses page 3 of the -2 amendments. |
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384 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks for clarification of page 3, line 3, subsection
4 that talks about class action suits. |
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412 |
Pellegrini |
Says it precludes private action. |
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441 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Explains that was the intent. |
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456 |
Sen. Ringo |
Says he does not accept that explanation. |
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TAPE 121,
A |
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003 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
She understands that most actions taken for
violations are run through the Attorney General’s office. |
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010 |
Sen. Ringo |
Believes it is very important to have a civil remedy
because the Attorney General’s office is too busy to get involved in some of
these issues. |
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017 |
Chair Minnis |
Talks about unlawful trade practices and asks if it
isn’t exclusively enforced by the Attorney General’s office. |
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018 |
Pellegrini |
Explains that it does have a private cause of action. |
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036 |
Sen. Ringo |
Contends that page 3, line 30, subsection b of the
-2 amendments states that a person cannot bring a private right of action. |
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037 |
Pellegrini |
Provides her understanding of this section of the -2
amendments. |
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054 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks how the Attorney General’s office would handle
a call. |
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061 |
Pellegrini |
Says they would not take action unless it was a wide
spread problem. |
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075 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if there is staff available to handle the
follow-up to these calls. |
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078 |
Pellegrini |
Says she has one full-time employee devoted to these
calls. |
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082 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about the operating budget. |
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085 |
Pellegrini |
Says the decision must be made by the Attorney
General. |
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102 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about junk faxes. |
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107 |
Pellegrini |
Says a person must notify the company in writing
before action can be brought. |
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121 |
Sen. Walker |
Expresses concern about the exemption of a private
right of action. |
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129 |
Pellegrini |
Says there exists in Section 1, subsection 6, a
private right of action for fax machines. |
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169 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on SB 27 and opens a work
session on SB 301. |
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SB 301
WORK SESSION |
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173 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces SB 301 and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT E) and the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT F). Says there
will be a fiscal. |
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214 |
Sen. Walker |
Expresses concern about the change that the
amendments make to page 1, line 5. |
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222 |
Prins |
Clarifies the meaning of the change. |
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264 |
Susan Russell |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies
in support of SB 301 and both amendments. |
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303 |
Doug Harkleroad |
District Attorney, Lane County, Oregon. Says he is
fine with the -1 amendments and will let the District Attorneys talk about
the -2 amendments. |
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311 |
Kamela Shugar |
Oregon District Attorneys Association. Testifies in
opposition to the -2 amendments.
Believes these amendments create a second crime of coercion. |
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355 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks for clarification of the coercion law. |
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365 |
Shugar |
Explains the law. |
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367 |
Russell |
Believes the coercion statute involves an additional
element. |
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384 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about a prank being covered under this statute. |
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390 |
Shugar |
Says that it would possibly be considered hazing. |
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442 |
Sen. Ringo |
Says he is not in favor of this bill. Says it is not in our interest to create
additional crimes. |
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470 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Says she is luke-warm on this issue. |
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TAPE 120,
B |
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025 |
Chair Minnis |
Explains his concern about the ability to get a
restraining order. |
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050 |
Sen. Walker |
Says she supports the -1 amendments. |
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076 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 301-1 amendments dated
3/21/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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077 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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089 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 301 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-1 AYE: 5 - Burdick, Ferrioli, Starr C., Walker, Minnis NAY: 1 - Ringo |
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094 |
Chair
Minnis |
The motion
CARRIES. SEN. WALKER will lead
discussion on the floor. |
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095 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 301 and opens a work
session on SB 421. |
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SB 421
WORK SESSION |
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098 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces SB 421 that directs Oregon Criminal Justice Commission to
classify manslaughter in second degree and criminally negligent homicide as
crime category 9, and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT
G) and -2 amendments (EXHIBIT H). Says there is a fiscal impact on this
bill. |
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153 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about sentencing guidelines. |
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155 |
Prins |
Explains the guidelines. |
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200 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 421-1 amendments dated
4/24/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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207 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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211 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 421-2 amendments dated
5/5/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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215 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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216 |
Chair Minnis |
Explains that the fiscal on this legislation is only
$11,616. |
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223 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 421 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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226 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. FERRIOLI will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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233 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 421 and re-opens the
public hearing on SB 27. |
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SB 27
PUBLIC HEARING |
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241 |
Julie Brandis |
Associated Oregon Industries. Testifies in opposition to SB 27. |
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305 |
Chair Minnis |
Asks if a person should have a choice not to receive
telemarketing calls. |
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311 |
Brandis |
Explains that in the instance of a business or
organization, those calls should be able to continue. |
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332 |
Sen. Ringo |
Believes it would not be too hard to craft some
language regarding prior relationships. |
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338 |
Brandis |
Thinks that is what Sen. Burdick is trying to do. |
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353 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks why people would not be required to pick up
every phone call if it is believed that telemarketing is in the public’s best
interest. |
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365 |
Brandis |
Talks about caller ID and believes it is not used
that much in business. Says a business cannot afford not to pick up the
phone. |
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418 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on SB 27 and opens a work
session. |
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SB 27
WORK SESSION |
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421 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 27-2 amendments dated
4/21/03. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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424 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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425 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 27 to the floor with a DO PASS AS
AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-1 AYE: 5 - Burdick, Ferrioli, Ringo, Starr C., Walker NAY: 1 - Minnis |
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430 |
Chair Minnis |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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438 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 27 and adjourns the
meeting at 9:40 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 27, written testimony submitted by Sen. Burdick, 1 p
B
– SB 466, -1 amendments submitted staff, 8 pp
C
– SB 52, -3 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
D
– SB 27, -2 amendments submitted by staff, 5 pp
E
– SB 301, -1 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
F
– SB 301, -2 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
G
– SB 421, -1 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
H
– SB 421, -2 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p