SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 21, 2003 Hearing
Room 343
8:00 AM Tapes
136-137
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. John Minnis, Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-Chair
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Charles Starr
Sen. Vicki Walker
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Sen. Ted Ferrioli
STAFF PRESENT: Craig Prins, Counsel
Bill Joseph, Counsel
Jane Bodenweiser, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 613 Work Session
HB 2658A Public Hearing
HB 2581A Public Hearing
HB 2592A Public Hearing
HB 2066A Public Hearing
HB 2986A Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3344A Public Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 136,
A |
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004 |
Chair Minnis |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:10 a.m. and opens a
work session on SB 613. |
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SB 613
WORK SESSION |
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006 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces SB 613 that authorizes game official to order coach, team
player or spectator to leave sports event, and the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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046 |
Sen. Peter Courtney |
Senate District 11.
Introduces Mr. Don Carter and Mr. Tom Walter. Asks that the -4 amendments be adopted. |
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073 |
Tom Walter |
Executive Director, Oregon School Activity
Association. Testifies in support of SB 613. |
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112 |
Don Carter |
Legal Counsel, Oregon School Activity
Association. Testifies in support of
SB 613, says the -4 amendments provide additional requirements of training
and certification of the officials. |
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152 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks about the relationship of this bill to the free
speech provision in the Oregon Constitution. |
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160 |
Carter |
Says that behavior is what is being addressed, not
speech. |
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177 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks if this bill would address insulting comments. |
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184 |
Carter |
Says that persistence of such conduct could rise to
the level covered in this bill. |
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190 |
Chair Minnis |
Understands that it is the refusal to leave, not the
actual conduct that constitutes the crime. |
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204 |
Prins |
Agrees with that understanding. |
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227 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about liability protection if an official
ejects the wrong person. |
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242 |
Sen. Courtney |
Explains why he chose not to address this issue. |
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280 |
Chair Minnis |
Concurs that adding the liability language puts a
burden on the official to make a good decision. |
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288 |
Sen. Courtney |
Says it is a judgment call that would be difficult
to address in the language of a bill. |
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300 |
Chair Minnis |
Acknowledges that as a policeman, he would want some
other articulation of facts that would support the justification. |
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316 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about announcements being made before a
sporting event that would inform the attendees of what is expected of them
regarding sportsmanlike conduct. |
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328 |
Walter |
Says there is suggested language offered, but there
is no guarantee that those announcements are made at all levels of
competition. |
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340 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 613-4 amendments dated
5/20/03. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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344 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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345 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 613 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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349 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. COURTNEY will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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362 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on SB 613 and opens a public
hearing on HB 2658A. |
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HB 2658A
PUBLIC HEARING |
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367 |
Rep. Jeff Merkley |
House District 47.
Introduces HB 2658A that exempts public employee and volunteer social security
numbers from disclosure under Public Records Law. |
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379 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks why we don’t prohibit the release of social
security numbers from any employer. |
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389 |
Rep. Merkley |
Explains that this bill was drafted to be narrow and
address an immediate issue. |
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416 |
Mark Landauer |
City of Portland, Government Relations. Testifies in support of HB 2658A. |
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466 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if there would be opposition to expanding this
legislation to cover any private employee. |
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TAPE 137,
A |
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010 |
Rep. Merkley |
Explains that public employers are in a different
position than private employers because Public Records Law only applies to
public employers. |
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017 |
Sen. Walker |
Believes we should not be releasing social security
numbers at all. |
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026 |
Stephanie Harper |
City of Portland.
Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2658A (EXHIBIT B). |
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071 |
Sen. Walker |
Says she would like an amendment. |
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080 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2658A and opens a
public hearing on HB 2581A. |
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HB
2581A PUBLIC HEARING |
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089 |
Rep. Robert Ackerman |
House District 13.
Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2581A that allows
governing body to commence proceeding in circuit court to determine
regularity and legality of certain actions of governing body (EXHIBIT C). |
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167 |
Jim Torrey |
Mayor, City of Eugene. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2581A (EXHIBIT D). |
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221 |
Sen. Walker |
Expresses concern about quick legal action versus
pre-determined action. |
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238 |
Torrey |
Explains that what is wanted is to allow the city to
give notice, allow challenge and then proceed accordingly. |
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259 |
Rep. Pat Farr |
House District 14. Testifies in support of HB 2581A. Says the bill is not an attempt to allow
local jurisdictions to circumvent the law. |
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292 |
Sen. Walker |
Believes that if a pre-determined ruling is received
from the court that it would preclude anyone from challenging a project from
going forward. |
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300 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Explains that this litigation tool has a very
limited purpose. |
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360 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if municipalities have legal counsel to advise
them, why pre-determined rulings are needed. |
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372 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Explains the use of the pre-determined ruling. |
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360 |
Sen. Walker |
Wonders how special interest groups would know to make
an appearance. |
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399 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Says that if nobody appears at a proceeding, the
court would be without jurisdiction to make a decision. |
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416 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about proper notice to citizens of city
planning activities. |
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428 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Says that public interest groups keep a close watch
on these issues. |
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466 |
Chair Minnis |
Talks about the broadness of the bill on page 1,
line 25, and asks in what context this procedure might be used. |
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TAPE 136, B |
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037 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Explains that it would be very difficult to write every
contingency into the bill. |
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048 |
Rep. Farr |
Provides further clarification. |
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057 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Explains that he likes the concept and thinks it
would be very useful, but asks about the fiscal impact on the court system. |
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072 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Says he believes it will not have a fiscal burden on
the courts. |
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083 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks about additional causes of harm and injury
after a project is complete. |
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091 |
Torrey |
Says that it is the intent of this legislation to
allow additional cause cases. |
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115 |
Chair Minnis |
Asks if there are any challenges to the
constitutionality of the existing statute. |
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119 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Answers that he is not aware of any. |
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128 |
Sen. Walker |
Says there is a letter being distributed from Linda
Lynch, Lane Transit District in support of this bill (EXHIBIT E). |
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131 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2581A and opens a
public hearing on HB 2592A. |
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HB
2592A PUBLIC HEARING |
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140 |
Jad Lemhouse |
Linn County Justice of the Peace. Testifies in support of HB 2592A that
authorizes assignment of judgments from justice court to Department of
Revenue for collection from refunds or other sums owed to debtor by
department. |
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190 |
Chair Minnis |
Says there will be more testimony tomorrow and
closes the public hearing on HB 2592A and opens a public hearing on HB 2066A. |
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HB
2066A PUBLIC HEARING |
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205 |
Bradd Swank |
State Court Administrator’s Office. Submits testimony and testifies in support
of HB 2066A that makes miscellaneous changes to laws governing courts (EXHIBIT F) and the –A18 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
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323 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2066A and opens a
public hearing on HB 2986A. |
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HB
2986A PUBLIC HEARING |
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336 |
Nan Heim |
Oregon Academy of Ophthalmology. Testifies in support of HB 2986A that
provides immunity from civil liability for physician or health care provider
who does not report to Department of Transportation person’s impairments
affecting ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. |
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391 |
Wayne Schumacher |
Oregon Optometric Physicians Association. Testifies in support of HB 2986A. |
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424 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about the report not being allowed in a civil
action. |
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435 |
Heim |
Says in an elderly person, vision can change
overnight. |
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TAPE 137,
B |
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002 |
Sen. Walker |
Says the burden has been put on physicians to remove
elderly person’s driver licenses. |
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019 |
Schumacher |
Says that ophthalmologists have been counseling
older people for years with regard to driving. |
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040 |
Tim Martinez |
Oregon Medical Association. Testifies in support of HB 2986A. Asks that an emergency clause be put on
the bill. |
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060 |
Kelly Taylor |
Department of Transportation. Testifies in support of HB 2986A. |
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108 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about the inadmissibility of a report. |
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110 |
Taylor |
Says the report is about a person’s condition and
can be used in an administrative hearing, but not used against a doctor in an
action. |
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117 |
Martinez |
Clarifies that Department of Motor Vehicles ultimately
decides who drives and who does not. |
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124 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments that he believes that ultimately these
reports could be used against doctors in some contexts, as well as unsafe
drivers. |
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131 |
Taylor |
Says that the driving record itself and the suspension
notice would be proof that a driver had been told not to drive anymore. |
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139 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2986A and opens a
work session. |
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HB
2986A WORK SESSION |
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141 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of adopting a conceptual amendment to HB 2986A. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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148 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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150 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to AMEND HB 2986A by adding “an
emergency clause". |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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158 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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159 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves HB 2986A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ferrioli |
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163 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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176 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on HB 2986A and opens a
public hearing on HB 3344A. |
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HB
3344A PUBLIC HEARING |
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181 |
Jack Munro |
Oregon Title Association. Testifies in support of HB 3344A that changes number of years
that intangible personal property must be held in fiduciary capacity before
being presumed abandoned from five to two. |
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221 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks when there is written evidence of a dispute, if
the dollars in that dispute would be considered abandoned. |
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230 |
Munro |
Says, no. |
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236 |
Sen. Ringo |
Gives an example of a personal experience, and asks
what problem is being solved by this legislation. |
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270 |
Munro |
Explains that the objective is simply to move some
money into the Common School Fund at an earlier point in time. |
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296 |
Jeanette Holman |
Division of State Lands. Further clarifies that there is a due diligence process in
place to notify a property owner. |
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315 |
Sen. Ringo |
Illustrates instances where the system doesn’t work. |
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326 |
Sen. Walker |
Says that one of the objections to another bill she
carried in the Senate was the shortening of the timeline for searching for
heirs. |
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347 |
Munro |
Believes there is a provision in the statute ORS 98.308
which governs the disposition of unclaimed property by banks. |
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361 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about what kind of property is involved in this
statute. |
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362 |
Munro |
Discusses the different provisions for different
kinds of businesses. |
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383 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about property in a safe deposit box. |
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391 |
Munro |
Says this particular provision does not deal with
tangible items. |
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377 |
Sen. Ringo |
Indicates additional clarification is needed. |
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401 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Says the committee needs additional information
about what this legislation applies to and what is does not. |
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450 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3344A and adjourns
the meeting at 10:00 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 613, -4 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
B
– HB 2658A, written testimony submitted by Stephanie Harper, 6 pp
C
– HB 2581A, written testimony submitted by Rep. Robert Ackerman, 3 pp
D
– HB 2581A, written testimony submitted by Jim Torrey, 2 pp
E
– HB 2581A, written testimony of Linda Lynch submitted by Sen. Vicki Walker, 1
p
F
– HB 2066A, written testimony submitted by Bradd Swank, 2 pp
G
– HB 2066A, -A18 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p