SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 16, 2003 Hearing
Room 343
8:00 AM Tapes
164-165
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. John Minnis, Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Charles Starr
Sen. Vicki Walker
STAFF PRESENT: Craig Prins, Counsel
Bill Joseph, Counsel
Jane Bodenweiser, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 620 Work Session
HB 2696A Work Session
HB 2770A Work Session
HB 2094A Work Session
HB 2368B Work Session
HB 3329B Work Session
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 164,
A |
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003 |
Chair Minnis |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:15 a.m. and opens
work sessions on SB 620, HB 2696A and HB 2770A. |
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SB 620,
HB 2696A AND HB 2770A WORK SESSIONS |
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008 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of reconsidering the previous votes on SB 620, HB 2696 and HB 2770. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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017 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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018 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which SB
620 was passed out of committee. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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022 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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025 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves SB 620 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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028 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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034 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB
2696A was passed out of committee. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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038 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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042 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves HB 2696A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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047 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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047 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB
2770A was passed out of committee. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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050 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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052 |
Sen.
Walker |
MOTION: Moves HB 2770A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on
Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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055 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. MINNIS will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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060 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work sessions on SB 620, HB 2696A and HB
2770A and opens work sessions on HB 2094A and HB 2368B. |
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HB
2094A & HB 2368B WORK SESSION |
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082 |
Jim Gardner |
Philip Morris. Submits testimony and testifies in
support of HB 2094A that requires tobacco product manufacturers to report
certain information to Attorney General (EXHIBIT
A). Recommends passage of the –A5
and –A10 amendments (EXHIBIT B and C). Testifies on HB 2368B and notes there are
technical amendments. |
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226 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks for elaboration of the –A10 amendments. |
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231 |
Gardner |
Explains the two principal purposes of the –A10
amendments. |
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254 |
Mark Nelson |
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2094A (EXHIBIT D). |
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448 |
John Valley |
American Heart Association. Submits testimony and testifies in
opposition to the amendments to HB 2094A (EXHIBIT
E). |
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TAPE 165,
A |
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022 |
Courtni Dresser |
American Cancer Society. Submits testimony and testifies in opposition to HB 2368B (EXHIBIT F). Asks that the committee support and pass
the –B22 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
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065 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if the Attorney General supports these
amendments. |
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070 |
Dresser |
Replies that he does. |
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099 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses his concern with the approach of the American
Cancer Society and the American Heart Association. |
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125 |
Dresser |
Says she definitely supports enforcement but also supports
the need to have prevention programs. |
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140 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Says illegal operators are taking funds directly out
of the programs of the Heart and Cancer Associations. |
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149 |
Valley |
Says their concerns are with the funding of the task
force. Continues testimony on the -B16 and -B18 amendments to HB 2368B (EXHIBIT H and I). |
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239 |
Marshall Coba |
Independent Tobacco Manufacturers of America. Submits
testimony and testifies in support of the -B17 amendments to HB 2368B (EXHIBIT J). |
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462 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if they accept the Center for Disease Control
numbers presented by Mr. Nelson. |
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TAPE 164,
B |
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028 |
Coba |
Says he is not familiar with the numbers. |
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034 |
Sen. Ringo |
Suggests that there has been significant leakage of
revenues. |
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038 |
Coba |
Discusses the cost differences across state borders. |
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043 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks how we solve the problem of independent
auditors not doing audits. |
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047 |
Coba |
Says he does not know what the solution is, but
feels it is important to understand that they are not auditing. |
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054 |
Chair Minnis |
Asks what this discussion has to do with this
legislation. |
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058 |
Coba |
Believes that it is relevant because we are making
policy decisions based on revenue needs and concerns. |
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068 |
Chair Minnis |
Contends that it is pretty clear that the state is
losing money based on the allocable share scheme. |
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078 |
Dave Redmond |
Chief Executive Officer, Carolina Tobacco Co. Discusses the concept of the Master Settlement
Agreement with regard to the non-participating manufacturers. |
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124 |
Chair Minnis |
Wonders about assumptions made in the Attorney
General’s draft of the Master Settlement Plan. Asks if Idaho, Montana and
Washington have currently passed the allocable share amendment. |
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140 |
Redmond |
Understands that the allocable cap may be successfully
challenged. |
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155 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks about public health members being part of the
task force. |
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160 |
Coba |
Says if there are suggestions to make it better, he
is open to that. |
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165 |
Coba |
Concludes his testimony by discussing market share
and “big tobacco’s” price increases. |
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183 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on HB 2094A and HB 2368B,
says these bills will be back on the agenda on Wednesday, June 18, and calls
for a short recess at 9:30 a.m. |
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187 |
Chair Minnis |
Reconvenes the meeting at 9:45 a.m. and opens a work
session on HB 3329B. |
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HB
3329B WORK SESSION |
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189 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel.
Introduces HB 3329B that authorizes Department of Justice to initiate
and participate in efforts to prepare for, and to assist in delivery of,
services to individuals traumatized by acts of mass violence, and the –B10
amendments (EXHIBIT K ). Says the only other amendments under
consideration are the –B8 amendments (EXHIBIT
L). |
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226 |
Kate Richardson |
Chief of Staff, Oregon State Treasury. Testifies in support of HB 3329B. Discusses section 3 of the bill. |
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280 |
Fred Boss |
Oregon Department of Justice. Testifies in support of HB 3329B. |
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309 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Asks for clarification that it will be limited to
securities. |
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317 |
Boss |
Says it is narrowly crafted solely to securities
class actions litigation. |
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322 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act
is a federal act. |
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327 |
Boss |
Says, yes. |
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329 |
Chair Minnis |
Asks for clarification of the time notice. |
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337 |
Joseph |
Explains there was a 30-day notice in the original
contract. |
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351 |
Cheryl Pellegrini |
Department of Justice. Agrees with the explanation
given. |
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377 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Discusses the –B8 amendments that have been added to
HB 3329B. |
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396 |
Julie Brandis |
Associated Oregon Industries. Expresses concerns about the –B8
amendments that address telemarketing. |
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434 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Says the source of the constitutional issues are
that there are exemptions in the bill. |
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450 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3329B-B10 amendments
dated 6/13/03. |
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457 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses his concerns about the timing of when the
contract runs out. |
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TAPE 165,
B |
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045 |
Joseph |
Discusses the possibility of breach of contract in
the –B10 amendments and suggests a change in the wording of the amendment. |
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070 |
Sen. Walker |
Believes that this is not needed. |
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072 |
Pellegrini |
Explains the procedure to be followed if this
legislation passes. Says she concurs
with the change of wording in the amendment. |
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112 |
Chair Minnis |
Asks for clarification of the wording change in the amendment. |
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113 |
Joseph |
Says in the -B10 amendments, page 1, line 4, after
vision of the contract, insert “absent stipulation of the parties to the
contract.” |
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126 |
Vice Chair Burdick |
Withdraws her original motion. |
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130 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of Conceptually amending the -B10 amendments to HB 3329B. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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133 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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138 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to AMEND HB 3329B -B10 AMENDMENTS on
page 1, in line 4, after "vision of the contract," insert
"absent stipulation of the parties to the contract,” |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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148 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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156 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3329-B8 amendments dated
5/22/03. |
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VOTE:
5-1 AYE: 5 - Burdick, Ferrioli, Ringo, Starr C., Walker NAY: 1 - Minnis |
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159 |
Chair Minnis |
The motion CARRIES. |
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163 |
Vice Chair
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves HB 3329B to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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165 |
Chair Minnis |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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167 |
Chair Minnis |
Closes the work session on HB 3329B and adjourns the
meeting at 10:15 a.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2094A and HB 2368B, printed material submitted by Jim Gardner, 13 pp
B
– HB 2094A, -A5 amendments submitted by staff, 6 pp
C
– HB 2094A, -A10 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
D
– HB 2094A, printed material submitted by Mark Nelson, 7 p
E
– HB 2368A, written testimony submitted by John Valley, 1 p
F
– HB 2368A, written testimony submitted by Courtni Dresser, 2 pp
G
– HB 2368A, -B22 amendments submitted by staff, 5 pp
H
– HB 2368A, -B16 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
I
– HB 2368A, -B18 amendments submitted by staff, 3 pp
J
– HB 2094A and 2368A, printed material submitted by Marshall Coba, 5 p
K
– HB 3329B, -B10 amendments submitted by staff, 1 p
L
– HB 3329B, -B8 amendments submitted by staff, 5 pp