PUBLIC HEARING: SB 626, HB 2135

 

PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION: SB 2312

 

TAPES 76-77, A-B

 

SENATE REVENUE COMMITTEE

March 31, 2003   1:00 PM   STATE CAPITOL BUILDING

 

Members Present:                        Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair

                                                Senator Tony Corcoran

                                                Senator Lenn Hannon

                                                Senator Charlie Ringo

                                                Senator Bruce Starr

 

Members Excused:                      Senator Ted Ferrioli, Vice Chair

 

Witnesses Present:                        Carl Hosticka, METRO Counsel

                                                Reed Wagner, Lane County

                                                Judie Hammerstad, Mayor, Lake Oswego

                                                John Hartsock, Committee for the Future of Damascas

                                                Gary Conkling, Beaverton School District

                                                Linda Ludwig, League of Oregon Cities

                                                Mark Cottle, Mayor, Sherwood Oregon

                                                Denis Molden, Washington County Board of Commissioners

                                                                       

 

Staff Present:                            Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Mazen Malik, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Richard Yates, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Ryan Sherlock, Committee Assistant

 

 

TAPE 76, SIDE A

 

003

Chair Deckert

Calls meeting to order at 1:11 a.m.

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON SB 626

 

010

Mazen Malik

Explains SB 626 which creates a revenue sharing task force to study revenue sharing by jurisdictions that share urban growth boundaries. Exhibit 1.

 

 

 

045

Carl Hosticka

Testifies in support of SB 626 because it addresses the problem of the “fiscalization of land use”. Refer to written testimony. Exhibit 2.

 

 

 

135

Chair Deckert

Asks what specific problem the proposed task force would be addressing.

 

 

 

140

Hosticka

Details the geographic regions which would be addressed, and outlines the general problem.

 

 

 

155

Chair Deckert

Asks if the state should be the convener of the task force.

 

 

 

160

Hosticka

Responds affirmatively reasoning that any proposal from the task force would come back to the legislature.

 

 

 

165

Reed Wagner

Responds that in other states that adopted task forces, it was overseen by the legislature.

 

 

 

175

Judie Hammerstad

Explains that SB 626 is outside the legislative package of her City, but offers testimony in support of SB 626 because a task force would create an incentive for districts to share in the burden of industrial land, which is needed in the Metro area.

 

 

 

250

John Hartsock

Discusses the committee on the future of Damascas. Testifies in support of SB 626 because it addresses the shortfall in funding for local land improvements and development.

 

 

 

325

Sen. Ringo

Points out that this issue underlines the severity of the local funding problem.

 

 

 

345

Gary Conkling

Testifies in neutrality for SB 626 and expresses concerns that the bill could adversely affect school funding.

 

TAPE 77, SIDE A

 

005

Linda Ludwig

Testifies in opposition to SB 626. Expresses concerns over the broad language of the bill that would affect many cities and counties outside the Metro area. Discusses concerns from various cities.

 

 

 

040

Mark Cottle

Discusses the growth of Sherwood and testifies in “cautious support” for SB 626 in regards to a sub-regional analysis rather than a blanket of the Metro area. 

 

 

 

085

Chair Deckert

Asks if Cottle is speaking for Washington County Mayors.

 

 

 

090

Cottle

Responds affirmatively.

 

 

 

100

Denis Molden

Testifies in opposition to SB 626 because it would not address the problems or succeed in offering a range of solutions.

 

 

 

135

Sen. Ringo

Points out that the bill merely proposes a task force.

 

 

 

140

Molden

Expresses his concern that the outcome of the task force has already been decided, and the task force would only work to further that pre-decision.

 

 

 

165

Sen. Ringo

Asks if the problem is really with huge development costs of the Damascus area.

 

 

 

170

Molden

Responds that it is part of the problem and that everyone needs to agree on the problems before moving on to the process of finding a solution.

 

 

 

175

Chair Deckert

Asks if Mr. Molden sees value in a sub-regional review.

 

 

 

180

Molden

Discusses the value of a sub-regional focus, and concerns regarding this option.

 

 

 

200

Hosticka

Comments on the opposition to the proposed task force.

 

 

 

235

Chair Deckert

Asks that Mr. Hosticka meet with some of mayors who have concerns regarding the bill, and introduces into the record written testimony from the City of Wilsonville.

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2312

 

270

Dick Yates

Explains HB 2312 which limits definitions in the law to the qualifying statute relating to the Master Settlement Agreement.

 

CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2312

 

OPENS WORK SESSION ON HB 2312

 

295

Sen. Starr

MOTION: MOVES HB 2312 TO THE SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

 

 

 

305

Sen. Deckert

ORDER: HEARING NO OBJECTION, MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1. SENATORS EXCUSED: FERRIOLI.

Sen. Corcoran will carry the bill on the Senate Floor.

 

CLOSES WORK SESSION ON HB 2312

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2135

 

310

Dick Yates

Explains the bill, the issues previously brought up, and the proposed changes.

 

 

 

350

Sen. Hannon

Asks Mr. Yates if the bill would allow deficit spending.

 

 

 

370

Yates

Responds that it allows the state to create a debt, but not to spend.

 

 

 

385

Paul Warner

Discusses the intent of the legislation.

 

 

 

400

Sen. Hannon

Asks that regardless of the policy implications of the bill, would this bill allow deficit spending.

 

TAPE 76, SIDE B

 

010

Warner

Explains that the state can have a cash deficit situation at any time and not have that constitute deficit spending.

 

Discussion follows.

 

 

 

035

Sen. Hannon

Asks about timing of tax payments.

 

Discussion follows.

 

CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2135

 

 

 

 

050

Chair Deckert

Adjourns the meeting at 2:08 p.m.

 

 

 

Tape Log Submitted by,

 

 

 

 

Tara Lantz, Committee Assistant

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

  1. SB 626, Mazen Malik, Staff Measure Summary, 1p.
  2. SB 626, Carl Hosticka, Written Testimony, 2pp.
  3. SB 626, City of Wilsonville, Written Testimony, 1p.
  4. HB 2312, Richard Yates, Staff Measure Summary, 1p.