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PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION: HB 2041 |
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TAPES 160-161,
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JULY 14,
2003 9:30 AM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair
Senator Ted
Ferrioli, Vice Chair
Senator
Tony Corcoran
Senator
Lenn Hannon
Senator
Rick Metsger
Senator
David Nelson
Senator
Charlie Ringo
Senator
Bruce Starr
Witnesses Present: Bob Russell, Oregon Trucking
Associations, Inc.
Larry
Campbell, AAA Oregon/Idaho
Randy
Tucker, 1000 Friends of Oregon
Rex
Smith, Fought & Co. Inc.
Anthony
Butkovich, Ironworkers International
Brad
Murphy, Universal Structural Inc.
Ron
Piksa, Ironworkers International
Bruce
Bunner, Ironworkers International
Senator
Ginny Burdick, District 18
Jeff
Carlson, International Association of Bridge Ironworkers Local 29
Staff Present: Paul
Warner, Legislative Revenue Office
Dick
Yates, Legislative Revenue Office
Tara
Lantz, Committee Assistant
TAPE
160, SIDE A
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Chair Deckert |
Calls meeting to order at 9:35 am. |
OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB
2041 B
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Bob Russell |
Testifies in support of HB 2041–B28
amendments (Exhibit 1). Discusses other small change that should be made in
the amendment on line 22, which would take out the phrase “will purchase”. |
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Larry Campbell |
Discusses concerns regarding the
state of Oregon bridges and the cost responsibility involved in fixing them.
Offers support for the –B28 amendments. States that they don’t believe that
this will be the last effort necessary to fix Oregon’s roads. |
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Sen. Hannon |
Asks why the bill says on line 12
that the taxpayer may not claim the credit until a tax year beginning on or
after January 1, 2005 when the biennium does not begin until July 1, 2005. |
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Russell |
Responds that there is another
provision that says you cannot take the tax credit into consideration on your
estimated taxes that would be paid in the first half of 2005, which pushes
the revenue impact back to the next biennium. |
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Sen. Hannon |
States that he does not see that in
the –B28 amendment. |
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Dick Yates |
Clarifies that on line 25 it states
that a taxpayer may not reduce estimated tax payments made before July 1,
2005. |
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Sen. Nelson |
Asks if the panel is just supporting
the bill and the-B28 amendments. |
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Campbell |
Responds affirmatively. |
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Russell |
Responds affirmatively. |
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Sen. Metsger |
Asks for an explanation of the –B28
amendments. |
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Yates |
Discusses the intent of the
amendments to remove the language of the bill relating to the sequestering of
income tax revenues and the funding for the mass transit vehicle replacement,
the demand studies by ODOT, and the reimbursement of the General Fund for the
truck engine tax credit. States that it reinstates in section 29 the truck
engine tax credit and treats it like a normal tax credit. Explains that it
prevents an individual from claiming the credit in the tax year 2004,
delaying the impact until the next biennium. Warns that there is no way to
enforce that people delay the estimated tax payments, which could create an
impact in the current biennium. |
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Sen. Deckert |
Asks where the carry forward is in
the bill. |
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Yates |
Responds that the carry forward is
extended for one more year to allow the taxpayer to carry the credit forward
for 4 years. |
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152 |
Sen. Deckert |
Asks if taxpayers can accumulate the
credit and cash it in all in one year. |
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Yates |
Responds that the taxpayer would
take it as early as possible to offset the liability. |
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Sen. Deckert |
Asks if the panel is okay with
amendments that would change the word from may on freight mobility to shall
on page 22, line 34 of the B-engrossed bill. |
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Russell |
Responds that he prefers to give the
transportation commission the flexibility to make the decision. |
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Randy Tucker |
Introduces the –B29 amendments
(Exhibit 2), which changes the word from may to shall on page 22, line 34 of
the B-engrossed bill in order to give local governments more control over the
economic development of their downtown areas. |
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Sen. Ringo |
States that it seems that the
commission is going to apply a reasonable enough analysis anyway. |
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Tucker |
Responds that it is likely because
they have a good transportation commission, but that this seems like it would
carry forward to every project in the future and not just on this package and
that this a reasonable balancing. |
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Sen. Starr |
Reminds the committee that there was
a representative from local governments that said they were comfortable with the
original language. |
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Rex Smith |
Testifies in support of bridge
replacement and repair provisions of the act. Expresses concern that there is
no requirement to buy American products for projects using only state money
and points out that there are 3 bridge fabricators in the Portland area that
are hurting economically. |
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Brad Murphy |
Testifies for the need for jobs in
the bridge fabricating industry. |
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Anthony Butkovich |
States that a similar bill was
passed in California without the buy American provision and submits a picture
of a bridge repair project in which a Korean company was hired for the job
(Exhibit 3). Discusses current difficulties in Oregon companies. |
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Ron Piksa |
Discusses current crisis in the
steel industry and how this bill could help them if there was a Buy American
provision. |
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Smith |
Adds that Fought & Co. has been
in Tigard for 40 years and has paid a great deal of taxes. |
TAPE 161, SIDE A
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Sen. Burdick |
Testifies in support of the package
but states that she cannot support a tax giveaway to anyway during this time.
Offers the –B18 amendment as a compromise, which would require the companies
to permanently take the old engines out of service. |
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Jeff Carlson |
Offers support for the bridge package
and states that they just want to build something. |
CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB
2041 B
RECESSES MEETING UNTIL 1:00
PM
RECONVENES MEETING AT 1:08
PM
OPENS WORK SESSION ON HB
2041 B
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Bruce Warner |
States that ODOT will be able to
fund the mass transit replacement through savings that have been identified
through the Ways and Means process. Explains that because of the federal
funds used in the package, the buy American provision is already in place and
not necessary in this bill. |
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Sen. Starr |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2041–B29 AMENDMENTS
DATED 7/14/03 BE ADOPTED. |
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Sen. Metsger |
Clarifies that the –B29 amendments
change the word from may to shall and maintain the integrity of both truck
routes and cities. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION
PASSES: 6-1-1. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: CORCORAN,
HANNON, METSGER, NELSON, STARR, DECKERT. SENATOR ANSWERING NO: FERRIOLI. SENATOR EXCUSED: RINGO. |
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Sen. Starr |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2041–B30 AMENDMENTS
DATED 7/14/03 BE ADOPTED. |
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Sen. Nelson |
Asks if these replace the –B28
amendments. |
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Sen. Deckert |
Responds affirmatively and explains
that the change is made in line 22 on page 1 by removing the phrase “or will
purchase”. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION PASSES:
7-0-1. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: CORCORAN,
HANNON, METSGER, NELSON, STARR, FERRIOLI, DECKERT. SENATOR EXCUSED: RINGO. |
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Sen. Hannon |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2041–B18 AMENDMENTS
DATED 7/8/03 BE ADOPTED. |
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Sen. Hannon |
States that he is moving the –B18
amendment as a courtesy to a colleague. |
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Yates |
Explains the –B18 amendments, which
require that engines that have been replaced are permanently taken out of
service. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION FAILS:
3-4-1. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: CORCORAN,
HANNON, DECKERT. SENATORS ANSWERING NO: METSGER,
NELSON, STARR, FERRIOLI. SENATORS EXCUSED: RINGO. |
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Sen. Starr |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2041 B TO THE
SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION
PASSES: 7-0-1. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: CORCORAN,
HANNON, METSGER, NELSON, STARR, FERRIOLI, DECKERT. SENATOR EXCUSED: RINGO. Sen. Metsger and Sen. Starr will
carry the bill on the Senate Floor. |
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Sen. Deckert |
Adjourns meeting at 1:18 pm. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Tara Lantz, Committee
Assistant
Exhibit Summary: