PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION: HB 2399 A, HB 2379 B

 

PUBLIC HEARING: HB 3582, HB 2152 A

 

TAPES 162, A

 

SENATE REVENUE COMMITTEE

JULY 29, 2003   9:00 AM   STATE CAPITOL BUILDING

 

Members Present:                        Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair

                                                Senator Ted Ferrioli, Vice Chair

                                                Senator Lenn Hannon

                                                Senator Charlie Ringo

 

Members Excused:                      Senator Tony Corcoran

                                                Senator Bruce Starr

 

Witnesses Present:                        Mike Dewey, Oregon Cable Telecommunications Association

                                                Pete Shepherd, Deputy Attorney General

                                                Jim Edge, Department of Human Services

                                                Representative Dave Hunt, District 40

                                                Jon Oshel, Association of Oregon Counties                      

 

Staff Present:                            Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Mazen Malik, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Tara Lantz, Committee Assistant

 

TAPE 162, SIDE A

 

006

Chair Deckert

Calls meeting to order at 9:11 am.

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2399 A

 

013

Mike Dewey

Discusses history and offers support for HB 2399 because the tax, which adds up to over 10 percent, was found to be Unconstitutional in court. Notes that it has been found Unconstitutional interstate.

 

 

 

065

Sen. Deckert

Asks about if a recent event at the Rose Garden would have qualified for the tax.  

 

 

 

068

Dewey

Responds that it was high profile, but not a pay-per-view event.

 

 

 

090

Pete Shepherd

Adds to the discussion on the court case decision.

 

 

 

115

Sen. Deckert

Asks what will happen if they don’t pass the bill.

 

 

 

120

Shepherd

Predicts that any litigation against them would be successful.

 

CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2399 A

 

OPENS WORK SESSION ON HB 2399 A

 

130

Sen. Hannon

MOTION: MOVES HB 2399 A TO THE SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.

 

 

 

135

Sen. Deckert

ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION PASSES: 4-0-2.

SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: HANNON, RINGO, FERRIOLI, DECKERT.

SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, STARR.

Sen. Hannon will carry the bill on the Senate Floor.

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2152 A

 

145

Jim Edge

Explains HB 2152 A, which extends the 10 cent cigarette tax for 10 years. Offers support for the bill because it provides funds for the services available to low income smokers.

 

 

 

165

Sen. Deckert

Asks when the 10 cent tax was adopted.

 

 

 

168

Edge

Responds that he doesn’t know.

 

 

 

170

Paul Warner

Responds that it was the 1993 session.

 

CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2152 A

 

OPENS WORK SESSION ON HB 2379 B

 

182

Sen. Hannon

States that there was another bill that dealt with a separate issue that passed out of the Senate last week and that it is their obligation to pass this out.

 

 

 

190

Mazen Malik

Notes that the –B9 amendments need to be adopted to resolve conflicts.

 

 

 

195

Sen. Hannon

MOTION: MOVES HB 2379-B9 AMENDMENTS DATED 5/30/03 BE ADOPTED.

 

 

 

200

Sen. Deckert

ORDER: HEARING NO OBJECTION, MOTION PASSES: 4-0-2.

SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, STARR.

 

 

 

205

Sen. Hannon

MOTION: MOVES HB 2379 B TO THE SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION.

 

 

 

208

Sen. Ferrioli

States that this bill was being held hostage with another bill and that he is happy to support the motion.

 

 

 

222

Sen. Ringo

Agrees with Sen. Ferrioli that this bill should be moved as soon as possible.

 

 

 

230

Sen. Deckert

ORDER: HEARING NO OBJECTION, MOTION PASSES: 4-0-2. SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, STARR.

Sen. Carter will carry the bill on the Senate Floor.

 

CLOSES WORK SESSION ON HB 2379 B

 

OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3582

 

240

Rep. Hunt

Testifies in support of HB 3582 because it would provide accountability for the study being done. Addresses suggestion that the bill be changed into the form of a budget note.

 

 

 

270

Jon Oshel

Testifies that the Association of Oregon Counties recognizes the need for the study and supports the bill.

 

 

 

285

Sen. Hannon

Asks who is supposed to be paying for the study.

 

 

 

298

Oshel

Responds that the current plan is to fund the study through revenues currently within the Association of Oregon Counties’ budget.

 

 

 

307

Sen. Hannon

States that he doesn’t understand how they are coming up with this large amount of money when they are always asking the Legislature for more. Asks about the jurisdiction the Association of Counties has over ODOT and other agencies.

 

 

 

322

Rep. Hunt

Responds that the workgroup would not have the authority to direct other agencies, but the agencies would be directed to assist the workgroup through this legislation.

 

 

 

330

Sen. Ringo

Asks what sort of legal entity the association of Oregon counties is.

 

 

 

333

Oshel

Responds that they are a public agency but not under the state.

 

 

 

343

Rep. Hunt

Responds that there are several places in statute where they direct organizations that receive public funds but are not state agencies.

 

 

 

358

Warner

Clarifies that the legislature does have the authority to direct agencies that are using state money.

 

 

 

362

Sen. Ringo

States that it is his opinion that the state could decide where money given the agencies should go, but not to direct them in their general operations. 

 

CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3582

 

370

Sen. Deckert

Adjourns meeting at 9:37 am.

 

 

 

Tape Log Submitted by,

 

 

 

Tara Lantz, Committee Assistant

 

Exhibit Summary:

  1. HB 2399 A, Paul Warner, Staff Measure Summary, 1p.
  2. HB 2399 A, Paul Warner, Revenue Impact Statement, 1p.
  3. HB 2152 A, Paul Warner, Proposed HB 2152-A6 Amendments, 1p.
  4. HB 2152 A, Paul Warner, Revenue Impact Statement, 1p.
  5. HB 3582, Rep. Hunt, Written Testimony, 1p.