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PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION: HB 2152 |
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TAPES 170, A |
August 18,
2003 2:00 PM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair
Senator Ted
Ferrioli, Vice Chair
Senator
Peter Courtney
Senator
Rick Metsger
Senator
David Nelson
Senator
Charlie Ringo
Senator
Bruce Starr
Members Excused: Senator Tony Corcoran
Senator
Lenn Hannon
Witnesses Present: Jim Carlson, Oregon Health Care
Association
Lynn
Read, Department of Human Services
Kelly
Knivila, Department of Justice
Rudy
Haughton, CareOregon
Mike
Dewey, ODS Health Plans
Dave
Fiskum, Providence Health System
Staff Present: Paul
Warner, Legislative Revenue Office
Dick
Yates, Legislative Revenue Office
Tara
Lantz, Committee Assistant
TAPE
170, SIDE A
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Chair Deckert |
Calls meeting to order at 4:21 pm. |
OPENS PUBLIC HEARING ON HB
2152
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Sen. Deckert |
States that there is a –A19
amendment (Exhibit 1) and a –A20 amendment (Exhibit 2). |
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Sen. Ferrioli |
Serves notice that he will be
invoking SR 8.75 which speaks to the issue of germaneness. |
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Jim Carlson |
Discusses the –A20 amendments which
deal with the nursing facility provider tax. Refer to Major Components of –A9
Amendments (Exhibit 5). |
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Sen. Ferrioli |
Points out that the -A20 amendments faces
the same question of germaneness. |
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Paul Warner |
Points out that the PACE section is
not in the –A20 amendment. |
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Carlson |
Responds that the Providence Elder
Place section is not in the –A20 and that he was not informed of that until
just now. Asks if it is because of a potential for a fully capitated
healthcare amendment later. |
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Warner |
Replies that he was just told by
Counsel to make sure they knew the section wasn’t in the amendment because
Carlson included them in the summary. |
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Sen. Deckert |
States that the amendments should
have stayed constant throughout and that he assumes these are okay with
everyone. |
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Carlson |
Responds that he had intended that
the amendments stay constant and that he assumes it is something that is
caught up in the discussion of the F-chip. |
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Lynn Read |
Testifies that the –A20 amendments
would do an assessment on the Medicaid managed plans that would apply to
premiums. States that it is approximated that the plan would generate $34
million that can be matched with federal dollars and would be available for
other program purposes. |
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Kelly Knivila |
Testifies that the -20 amendments
meet the federal requirement to obtain the federal matching funds. |
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Rudy Haughton |
Testifies in support of the –A20
amendments because it is essential to keep providing a service that is needed
for their clients. |
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Mike Dewey |
Testifies in support of the –A20
amendments and suggests that there is something put in statute that directs
the money to fund services for people that actually pay the tax. |
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Sen. Deckert |
States that the PACE omission is
being discussed and as soon as the complication is resolved they will be
ready to go. |
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Sen. Deckert |
RECESSES MEETING AT 4:39 PM. |
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Sen. Deckert |
REOPENS MEETING AT 4:57 PM. |
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Carlson |
Testifies that the decision has been
made to go with the –A20 language, but expresses concern that there may need
to be technical changes made later. |
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Dave Fiskum |
Discusses the –A20 amendments and
the problems that may arise and appreciates that the chair is willing to
address those problems at a later time. |
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Sen. Ferrioli |
Suggests that an easy way to fix this
would be in a conference committee. |
CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING ON HB
2152
OPENS WORK SESSION ON HB
2152
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Sen. Metsger |
Asks about the estimated revenues
from the personal income tax assessment. |
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Warner |
Responds that the surcharge is for a
3 year period and that $545 would come in this biennium and then about $152
in the ’07 biennium. |
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Sen. Ferrioli |
States that the –A19 and –A20 amendments
are not germane to the subject of HB 2152 and would take an action that is
not constitutional. Declares that he will invoke Senate Rule 8.75 and ask for
a decision to be made on the germaneness of the amendment. |
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Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2152-A19 AMENDMENTS
DATED 8/18/03 BE ADOPTED. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION PASSES:
5-2-2. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: COURTNEY,
METSGER, NELSON, RINGO, DECKERT. SENATORS ANSWERING NO: STARR,
FERRIOLI. SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, HANNON. |
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Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2152-A20 AMENDMENTS
DATED 8/18/03 BE ADOPTED. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION
PASSES: 5-2-2. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: COURTNEY,
METSGER, NELSON, RINGO, DECKERT. SENATORS ANSWERING NO: STARR,
FERRIOLI. SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, HANNON. |
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Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2152 TO THE SENATE
FLOOR WITH A DO PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION. |
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Sen. Metsger |
Notes that this is a compilation of
hard work from a lot of members and that without this bill they cannot fund
schools and public services to the level that Oregonians want. |
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Sen. Deckert |
ORDER: ROLL CALL VOTE: MOTION
PASSES: 5-2-2. SENATORS ANSWERING AYE: COURTNEY,
METSGER, NELSON, RINGO, DECKERT. SENATORS ANSWERING NO: STARR,
FERRIOLI. SENATORS EXCUSED: CORCORAN, HANNON. Sen. Deckert will carry the bill on
the Senate Floor. |
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Sen. Deckert |
Adjourns meeting at 5:10 pm. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Tara Lantz, Committee
Assistant
Exhibit Summary: