SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
March 20, 2003 Hearing
Room 343
3:00 PM Tapes
26 - 27
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Co-chair, Presiding
Sen. Bev Clarno, Co-chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Tony Corcoran
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator
Pam Cox, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Introduction of Committee Measures –
Work Session
SJR 13 – Work Session
SJR 14 – Work Session
SJR 30 – Work Session
SM 1 – Work Session
SM 3 – Work Session
SB 137 – Work Session
SB 141 – Work Session
SB 319 – Work Session
SB 678 – Public Hearing
SB 680 – Public Hearing
SB 706 – Public Hearing
SB 780 – Public Hearing
SB 565 – Public Hearing
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 26, A |
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Co-chair Brown |
Opens committee meeting at 3:10 p.m. Opens work session for the purpose of
introducing committee measures. |
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INTRODUCTION
OF COMMITTEE MEASURES – WORK SESSION |
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Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes LC 3501, LC 3510, LC 3482, and LC 3483. |
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020 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves LC 3501, LC 3510, LC 3482, and LC 3483
BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
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022 |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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023 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes work session on committee measures and opens
work session on SJR 13, SJR 14 and SJR 30. |
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SJR 13,
SJR 14, SJR 30 – WORK SESSION |
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024 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SJR 13 to the Committee on Revenue without RECOMMENDATION
to passage. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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025 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SJR 14 to the Committee on Transportation and Economic
Development without RECOMMENDATION to passage. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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026 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SJR 30 to the Committee on Revenue without RECOMMENDATION
to passage. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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027 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes work session on SJR 13, SJR 14 and SJR
30. Opens work session on SM 1 and SM
3. |
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SM 1, SM 3 – WORK SESSION |
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Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SM 3 to the Committee on Agriculture and Natural
Resources without RECOMMENDATION to passage. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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029 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SM 1 to the Committee on Water and Land Use without
RECOMMENDATION to passage. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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036 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes work session on SM 1 and SM 3 and opens a
work session on SB 137. |
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SB 137
– WORK SESSION |
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Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 137, which modifies candidate portrait
requirements for state voters’ pamphlet.
Discusses -3 amendments dated 2-10-03 (EXHIBIT I). Describes
specific portrait changes. |
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081 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if there has been any challenge to this bill. |
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085 |
Co-chair Brown |
States she does not know of any. |
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092 |
Sen. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 137-3 amendments dated
02/10/03. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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096 |
Sen. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves SB 137 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. BEYER
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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100 |
Co-chair
Brown |
Closes work session on SB 137 and opens a work session
on SB 141. |
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SB 141
– WORK SESSION |
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Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 141, which prohibits use of undue influence with
intent to induce person to sign or refrain from signing initiative,
referendum or recall petition. |
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165 |
Co-chair Brown |
States the need for discussion between committee members
on this bill. Closes work session on
SB 141 and opens a work session on SB 319. |
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SB 319
– WORK SESSION |
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166 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 319, which prescribes deadline for individual
nominated or elected by write-in votes to file form accepting nomination or
office. Discusses -3 amendments dated
2-24-03 (EXHIBIT J). |
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167 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Asks for clarification of the -3 amendment. |
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202 |
John Lindback |
Elections Division, Secretary of State. States they requested the change because
it established a different deadline on the recount process and it needed to
be consistent with other deadlines. |
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212 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Asks for clarification on the amendment of SB 319. |
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214 |
Lindback |
States the normal deadline for requesting recount is
no later than the 35th day. |
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264 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Asks for clarification on the timeline for write-in
votes. |
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275 |
Lindback |
Answers currently there is no deadline. |
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286 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Notes the primary is the first of May and refers to
the lapse in June. |
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299 |
Lindback |
States the forty-five day issue is the timeline of
accepting a position if you have won the election. |
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330 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 319-3 amendments dated
02/24/003. |
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VOTE:
5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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332 |
Sen. Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SB 319 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Corcoran |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN.
WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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334 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes work session on SB 319. Opens public hearing on SB 678, |
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SB 678,
SB 680, SB 706, SB 780 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Jeannie Berg |
Voter Education Project. Testifies in support of measures: ·
SB 678, which directs
circulator of election petitions, including initiative, referendum and recall
petitions, to certify that circulator witnessed the signing of the petition
signature sheet by each individual whose name appears on the signature sheet ·
SB 680, which
prohibits consideration of state initiative, referendum or recall petition
signature sheets certified by petition circulator if circulator has been
convicted of attempting to obtain signatures on, circulating or filing
petition knowing it to contain false signature or making false statement,
oath or affidavit under election laws ·
SB 706, which
prohibits person other than person signing petition from writing information
about person signing petition on signature sheet of state initiative or
referendum petition or recall petition ·
SB 780, which directs
chief petitioner of state initiative petition to file signature sheet with
Secretary of State not later than 90 days after date first signature was
obtained on signature sheet Submits
written testimony (EXHIBITS A, B). Discusses forgery issue (video) and
informs how to alleviate the problem. |
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TAPE 27, A |
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001 |
Berg |
Continues. |
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090 |
Co-chair Brown |
Asks if the name is spelled incorrectly or is not legible
how any one could know who signed the petition. |
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110 |
Berg |
Explains that on the petitioner’s copy they will
print the name just above the signature. |
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111 |
Co-chair Brown |
Asks how the video was taken. |
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112 |
Berg |
States on the balcony at the mall with a strong zoom
lens. |
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125 |
Sen. Burdick |
Notes a petitioner came to her at her campaign and
tried to sell her signatures and notes that charges were filed. |
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157 |
Berg |
States signature gatherers were able to read the
crowd and obtained signatures illegally. |
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178 |
Sen. Ginny Burdick |
District 18. Testifies in support of SB 780.
Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT
C). Informs the committee about her
experiences of signature gathering.
Suggests chief petitioners should turn in their signatures
periodically. |
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238 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Asks why she needed to receive thousands of
signatures in 85 days. |
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250 |
Sen. Burdick |
Answers she was unclear about the process and if she
had known more she would have started much earlier. |
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253 |
Sen. Atkinson |
States the problem is there is a false deadline, and
there should not be a deadline if the measure has merit. |
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293 |
Sen. Burdick |
Explains other concerns, with people moving and
changing counties. Comments that as
the chief petitioner the issue was getting on the ballot and there was
adequate time for that. |
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312 |
Sen. Richard Devlin |
District 19.
Testifies in support of SB 678.
Points out the bill requires a witness when signing an initiative. |
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351 |
Sen. Devlin |
Testifies in support of SB 680 and offers
information on falsifying a signature on a witness sheet. Explains cases where this has happened. |
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387 |
Co-chair Brown |
With public hearing on SB 678, SB 680, SB 706 and SB
780 remaining open, opens public hearing to include SB 565. |
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SB 565
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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Sen. Deckert |
District 14. Offers testimony in support of SB 565,
which requires ballot title caption and statement describing result of yes
vote for certain state measures to include statement listing not more than
three state services that could be reduced if measure is adopted. Submits and summarizes written testimony (EXHIBIT D). Explains voters should have a full explanation of what they are
voting for, so they will cast an educated vote. |
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TAPE 26, B |
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Sen. Deckert |
Continues. |
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Steve Novick |
Legislative Coordinator, Oregon Department of
Education. Offers testimony in support
of SB 565. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E). Explains this bill will require full
disclosure in requiring a title caption on the ballot. |
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Kristen Leonard |
Oregon Education Association (OEA). Submits written testimony in support of SB
565, SB 678, SB 680, SB 706 and SB 780 and explains it is very important for
voters to understand the ballot measures (EXHIBITS
F, G). |
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111 |
Tim Nesbitt |
President, AFL-CIO.
Testifies that petition signatures are just as important as ballot
signatures and states we need to be every bit as careful on this process and he
supports all three of the bills. |
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189 |
Leonard |
Explains these bills will protect a person’s
signature. |
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200 |
Sen. Burdick |
Notes when you are a chief petitioner some of the
signers want an explanation of the bill. |
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203 |
Nesbitt |
Explains sometimes there would be conversations. |
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215 |
Sen. Burdick |
States in her petitioning the signatures were needed
very quickly but signers wanted an explanation on controversial issues. |
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225 |
Daniel Meek |
Attorney; Common Cause. Testifies in opposition to SB 706. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT
H). Expresses concern over the
number of signatures thrown out for no reason and explains the time factor on
studying signatures. |
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287 |
Meek |
Testifies in opposition to SB 780 and offers
information on deadlines for turning in signature sheets. Testifies in support of SB 680 and |
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TAPE 27, B |
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Meek |
Continues. |
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057 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks if he would allow for signature collection to
allow initiative campaigns to correct signatures for the disabled. |
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069 |
Meek |
States he would. |
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073 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks about someone reviewing the signatures calling
the petitioner to ask the party who has signed the petition if they really
intended to do so. |
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079 |
Meek |
Explains if a person signed a petition then the list
was turned in early and much time had elapsed they might not remember
signing. |
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107 |
Ross Day |
Director Legal Affairs, Oregonians in Action. Testifies in opposition to these bills and
states the bills are improper. |
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201 |
Jason Williams |
Executive Director, Taxpayer’s Association of
Oregon. Testifies in opposition to these bills and states they only meet the
need of the government. |
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241 |
John Lindback |
Elections Division, Secretary of State. Discusses problems with writers, and
petitions that are turned in from counties where the signatures were filled
in by writers, which has created serious problems. |
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308 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks if he would have a problem if the signature
gatherer prints the name above an illegible signature the name of the signer. |
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314 |
Lindback |
Agrees there is no problem with this. |
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315 |
Sen. Burdick |
Notes even people who have disabilities in writing
still want to sign the petitions. |
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333 |
Lindback |
States printing their name above their signature will
help the chief petitioner gather more signatures. |
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349 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes public hearing on SB 678, SB 680, SB 706, SB
780 and SB 565. Adjourns committee
meeting at 4:55 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 678, SB 680, SB 706 & SB 780, written testimony, Jeannie Berg, 13 pp
B
– SB 678, SB 680, SB 706 & SB 780, written testimony, Jeannie Berg, 9 pp
C
– SB 780, written testimony, Sen. Ginny Burdick, 1 p
D
– SB 565, written testimony, Sen. Ryan Deckert, 1 p
E
– SB 565, written testimony, Steve Novick, 9 pp
F
– SB 565, written testimony, Kristen Leonard, 1 p
G
– SB 678, SB 680, SB 706, & SB 780, written material, Kristen Leonard, 1 p
H
– SB 565, SB 680, SB 706 & SB 780,
written testimony, Daniel Meek, 3 pp
The
following exhibits are listed out of order in the body of the tape log:
I
– SB 137, -3 amendments (2-10-03), staff, 1 p
J
– SB 319, -2 amendments (2-24-03), staff, 6 pp