SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES

 

 

June 12, 2003                                                                                            Hearing Rooms HR D, B

3:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  61 - 64

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Kate Brown, Co-chair, Presiding

Sen.  Bev Clarno, Co-chair 

Sen.  Jason Atkinson Vice-chair

Sen. Ginny Burdick Vice-chair

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Tony Corcoran

 

VISITING MEMBER:                       Sen. Rick Metsger

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 132 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 899 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 139 – Public Hearing

HB 3606A – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 61, A

005

Co-chair Brown

Opens meeting as subcommittee at 3:11 p.m. in Hearing Room D.  Opens public hearing on SB 132.

SB 132 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator.  Provides overview of SB 132, which increases maximum amount of civil penalty for each violation of election laws or rules adopted under election laws from $250 to $1,000.  Presents overview of -2 amendments (4-8-03), which replace original measure (EXHIBIT A).

015

Co-chair Brown

Closes public hearing on SB 132.  Opens public hearing on SB 899.

SB 899 – PUBLIC HEARING

020

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 899, which requires Department of Transportation to advertise in 2003 for bids to purchase motor vehicle registration plates and plates for motor carriers.

025

Rep. Tootie Smith

District 18.  Testifies in support of SB 899.  Raises concerns the measure addresses:

·       Keep license plate printing in Oregon

·       Consider economic costs of Oregonians out of work

070

Co-chair Brown

Reopens as full committee.

075

Sen. Beyer

Asks about requirement for manufacturing license plates in Oregon.

080

Stembridge

Refers to lines 10-13, which require printing, binding and stationery work for state or counties to be done in Oregon, and this measure adds manufacture of license plates.

085

Rep. T. Smith

Responds it does both.

090

Sen. Beyer

Clarifies requirement for bid within ten percent above lowest bidder to be awarded in state.

105

Grover Simmons

Representing Pacific printing and imaging industry, including Irwin-Hodson Co.  Testifies in support of SB 899.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

165

Thom Brown

Testifies in support of SB 899.

170

Harvey Mathews

Associated Oregon Industries (AOI).  Testifies in support of SB 899.

185

Sen. Atkinson

Asks whether costs for license plates will go up.

190

Thom Brown

Discusses costs of materials and labor, about $2.49 per plate.

210

Co-chair Brown

Clarifies the cost is in lower half of all producers around country.

215

Simmons

Specifies lower one-third.  Submits pricing information (EXHIBIT C).

235

Co-chair Brown

Clarifies the Oregon company had the contract for many years; now a Nova Scotia company has for 4-5 years.  Asks how that company would respond if their contract is rescinded.

250

Simmons

Explains it is a one-year contract, rolled over for 4 succeeding years.

255

Thom Brown

Adds there is always a possibility that bids would be reopened in every state.

265

Rep. Diane Rosenbaum

District 42.  Testifies in support of SB 899. 

·       This is a jobs bill

·       Employer is in her district, over 100 years

·       15 family wage jobs

295

Kelly Taylor

Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT).  Discusses process of producing license plates.  Offers to answer questions. 

·       Last renewal was first time put out for bid

·       Bill gives leeway for ten percent difference, to account for effect on economy by moving the work away from Oregon

350

Co-chair Brown

Closes public hearing on SB 899.  Opens work session on SB 899.

SB 899 – WORK SESSION

355

Sen. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves SB 899 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

360

 

VOTE:  5-1

AYE:               5 - Atkinson, Beyer, Burdick, Brown, Clarno

NAY:               1 – Corcoran

 

Co-chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor.

370

Co-chair Brown

Closes work session on SB 899.  Opens public hearing on SB 132.


 

SB 132 – PUBLIC HEARING

375

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator.  Presents overview of SB 132, which increases maximum amount of civil penalty for each violation of election laws or rules adopted under election laws from $250 to $1,000.  Discusses -2 amendments dated 4-8-03 (EXHIBIT A).

385

Joe Keizur

Democratic Party Political Director.  Testifies in support of SB 132 and -2 amendments.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

TAPE 62, A

005

Janice Thompson

Money in Politics Research Action Project.  Testifies in opposition to SB 132.  Explains other states’ Treasurers have qualms but not this much.

010

Kappy Eaton

League of Women Voters of Oregon.  Testifies in opposition to SB 132.  Expresses concern over insufficient funding for Secretary of  State to process the violations. 

020

Sen. Corcoran

Asks whether Republican members support.

025

Keizur

Affirms the amendment is fine.  Explains Republican members are not here but would approve.

035

Fred Neal

Elections Division, Secretary of State.  Testifies in opposition to -2 amendments.  Raises concerns:

·         Pledges are not reported as cash but as receivables, so should not affect bookkeeping of committee

·         There has not been an enforcement issue

·         Describes issue where committees or nascent campaigns knew money would be coming, and did not report as receivable, so opponents did not know about a well-funded race

·         Creates hurdle or burden on Secretary of State to account for the pledges

065

Co-chair Brown

Asks about Secretary of State sanctions if a member received a pledge and failed to report, and whether the Secretary of State could asses a fine if they found out the member did not amend the report.

075

Neal

Discusses reporting requirements.

080

Co-chair Brown

Asks if a will containing a pledge could be challenged and the pledge tied up in court.

085

Neal

Answers not in the particular case which triggered the amendment.

090

Co-chair Brown

Closes public hearing on SB 132.  Opens work session on SB 132.

SB 132 – WORK SESSION

105

Sen. Burdick

Expresses concern over no increase in penalties.

107

Sen. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 132-2 amendments dated 4/8/03.

 

 

VOTE:  5-1

AYE:               5 - Atkinson, Beyer, Corcoran, Brown, Clarno

NAY:               1 - Burdick

 

Co-chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.


 

109

Sen. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves SB 132 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  5-1

AYE:               5 - Atkinson, Beyer, Corcoran, Brown, Clarno

NAY:               1 - Burdick

 

Co-chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

110

Co-chair Brown

Closes work session on SB 132.  Opens public hearing on SB 139.

SB 139 – PUBLIC HEARING

115

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator.  Provides overview of SB 139, which establishes Elections Operating Account.  Provides written outline (EXHIBIT E).  Discusses objectives to reduce costs of voter’s pamphlet.  Discusses -2 amendments dated 6-3-03 (EXHIBIT F).  Describes spreadsheet with cost calculations (EXHIBIT G).

225

Co-chair Brown

Closes public hearing on SB 139.  Recesses the committee at 3:57 p.m.

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RECESS        **************************

230

Co-chair Brown

Reconvenes the committee at 4:03 p.m. in Hearing Room B.  Opens public hearing on HB 3606A.

HB 3606A – PUBLIC HEARING

235

Rep. Vic Backlund

District 25.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A, which authorizes Director of Oregon Department of Administrative Services (DAS), with approval of State Treasurer, to enter into agreements to grant incremental baseball tax revenues for period of not more than 30 years.  Provides background.  Discusses safeguards in the measure.  Discusses economic and employment benefits.

330

Sen. Ryan Deckert

District 14.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Clarifies the proposal does not involve any public funding.

TAPE 61, B

015

Howard Lavine

Governor’s policy advisor on bringing major league baseball to Oregon.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Presents Governor’s perspective on the measure.  Urges not waiting for better economic times.  Expresses support from business and labor. 

080

Marti Saathoff

General Counsel, Governor’s Office.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Clarifies the measure provides a grant, not issuing of bonds.  Discusses revenue generated by the proposal.  Discusses other protections provided.

160

Kate Richardson

Chief of Staff, State Treasurer’s Office.  Offers to answer questions.  Discusses proposed –A3 amendments dated 6-12-03 (EXHIBIT H).  Discusses development of the proposal to reduce or eliminate bonding risk to state.  Describes obligation for appropriate funds if revenues are generated.

215

Sen. Metsger

Describes obligation to appropriate funding.  Asks whether that carries forward into the amendment.

235

Richardson

Responds it does not change, but if income tax rate changes, the higher rate still applies.

245

Sen. Metsger

Clarifies DAS would ask for appropriations from General Fund if they were not from income taxes to meet obligation.

250

Richardson

Clarifies it is all income tax money/revenue, so difference between two rates would be from General Fund.

255

Sen. Metsger

Discusses third-party guarantor and bonding arrangement.  Asks about risk if full faith and credit of state is not behind it.  Inquires who would buy the bonds and would the total capital be generated.

270

Richardson

Explains bonds require a guarantor, and financing may or may not be based on this income stream.

275

Chuck Smith

Director of Debt Management, Oregon State Treasury.  Explains guarantor would be an important credit part, as well as other revenue streams.  Adds the state has outstanding reputation for appropriation credit. 

295

Sen. Burdick

Asks whether this depends on revenue that would not otherwise be here (player salaries).  Asks about what happens if tax structure changes. 

325

Richardson

Responds the risk is obligation to pay the difference if there is tax reform.

330

Sen. Burdick

Suggests if income tax is reduced, the state must raise other tax to compensate for lost revenue.

335

Richardson

Agrees in theory. 

350

Co-chair Brown

Asks about State Treasurer’s position.

355

Richardson

Responds it is neutral.

365

Patrick Green

Oregon AFL-CIO.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.

TAPE 62, B

010

Ed Glad

Pacific Northwest Regional Council of Carpenters.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Discusses need for jobs in building industry.

035

Jeff Carlson

International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental and Reinforcing Ironworkers; Oregon Building Trades.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Discusses economic benefits of building a stadium that brings construction jobs.

060

David Kahn

Oregon Stadium Campaign.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  States passing HB 3606A is the right thing for Oregon.  Provides visual demonstration showing the contracting positions in a similar project in Indiana.  Submits written materials (EXHIBITS I, J).

120

Kahn

Continues presentation. Addresses the projects involved in building sports stadiums and emphasizes the bill’s intent to create jobs.

160

Kahn

Continues presentation.  Provides percentages of dollars spent in neighboring Washington and the revenue that is brought into Washington by Oregonians.  Reads excerpt of testimony from Karl Mundorf (EXHIBIT K).  Summarizes and concludes testimony.

220

Drew Mahalic

Chief Executive Officer (CEO), Oregon Sports Authority.  Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A.  Mentions indicators that Oregon is prepared and ready for sports to provide an economic boost to the state.

247

Stephen Kanter

Law Professor; President, Portland Baseball Group; Oregon Stadium Campaign.  Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A. Commends the work group that created the –A3 amendments. Commends the opponents for their standpoint on earlier versions of HB 3606A.  Elaborates on the tax issue of the current draft of the bill.

320

Kanter

Discusses the previous question of who would purchase the bonds.

340

Co-Chair Brown

Asks if the –A3 amendments limit the aggregate payments to $150 million, and asks for the costs of building the stadium.

350

Kanter

Answers the cost would be about $350 million.  Elaborates on the process of bond payments as well as ownership costs.

388

Co-chair Brown

Asks about the Washington, DC financing issue, and asks for information on the issue of union opposition to taxing baseball players.

396

Kanter

Clarifies the issues are separate and distinct legally.  Elaborates on the players uniform tax rules and the cooperation of the players for the Oregon proposal.

TAPE 63, A

018

Sen. Metsger

Asks who will own the stadium among the various partners.

026

Kanter

States the intent and expectation is for it to be a publicly owned stadium, leased to the team.

030

Sen. Metsger

Asks about the other costs outside of the cost of the stadium.

036

Kanter

Responds the state’s portion is capped well under the cost of constructing the stadium.  Discusses other costs.

039

Sen. Metsger

Asks who will be paying the transportation infrastructure costs.

043

Kanter

Describes overall project budget, which includes the transportation infrastructure.  States there is no hidden general tax.

052

Kahn

Asserts there will be no hidden costs, and the costs will be included in the overall project costs.

069

Kanter

Provides references to previous stadium projects which have stayed within budget.

075

Sen. Metsger

Asks about risks if baseball downsizes after a major league team is moved to Oregon.

085

Kahn

Explains this is not a right until the year 2006. Comments on the current franchise situations in the baseball league.

117

Sen. Metsger

Discusses potential impact for small businesses and independent businesses.  Asks if language can be included to assures small business participation.

131

Kahn

Describes city’s intention to enter into those types of agreements.

139

Kanter

Closes the presentation with the assurance that the state is not liable for the cost of the stadium.

151

Sen. Corcoran

Asks who is the final of guarantor if it is not Oregon, and if it is possible that the City of Portland will be.

168

Kahn

Answers and elaborates on the current process.

189

Sen. Corcoran

Asks how Conseco Fieldhouse (Indiana) was financed.

194

Kahn

States there was a mixture of public and private financing.

204

Sen. Corcoran

Clarifies in this case there is no state money.

209

Kahn

Explains the “state money” is the dedicated revenue stream from the stadium and the team.

214

Sen. Corcoran

Asks for a breakdown of the partners and whether there is potential liability if the state sets up a revenue stream.

222

Kanter

Describes the deal as an ‘escrow deal,’ and discusses revenue streams from the state and other partners to present to the guarantor.

276

Carl Flipper

Co-Chair, Community Development Committee, Portland Baseball Group.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.

310

Julie Edwards

Resident.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Shares a desire to see baseball in Oregon for the benefit of the children of Oregon.

370

Jay Waldron

Attorney; Chair, Port of Portland.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Asserts baseball will be a boost in the economic arm of Oregon.  Reads testimony from the chair of the Oregon Tourism Division.

TAPE 64, A

005

Waldron

Comments on the potential tourism dollars that will be spent in Oregon per game.  Comments on the quality of life in Portland and the costs of improving the nightlife of Oregon.  Summarizes and concludes.

050

Kim Kimbrough

CEO, Portland Business Alliance.  Testifies in support of HB 3606A.  Discusses economic development resulting from building a stadium and bringing a team to Portland.

086

Olney Pat, Jr.

Resident, Warm Springs.  Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A.  Comments on the economic benefits of bringing baseball to Oregon.  Comments on improvements to the quality of life in Portland.

138

Sen. Corcoran

Asks if there has been discussion among the tribes to do some sort of proportional investment funding for the stadium.

150

Pat

Responds he is unaware of any discussion among the tribes regarding this issue.  Expresses a desire to take advantage of advertising opportunities bringing baseball to Oregon.

160

Harvey Platt

CEO, Platt Supply.  Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A.  States a desire to improve the community of Portland, as well as the economic benefits to the state.  Provides written article from the Oregonian and reads from the article (EXHIBIT L).

230

Brad Perkins

Private Citizen.  Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A.  Commends previous speakers and the direction the proponents have taken.

300

Co-chair Brown

Notes for the record a letter submitted by Pete Ward Travel & Cruise Center (EXHIBIT M).

310

Bob Kinsley

Sublimity Baseball Fan. Provides testimony in support of HB 3606A.  Comments on the benefits of community spirit and community unity.

343

Dick Campbell

Oregon resident.  Asks whether the stadium will be a baseball stadium only, and asks if during the off season it will be used by other activists.  Asks a general question regarding the need for a retractable roof.

370

Co-chair Brown

Explains the retractable roof is not being considered.

390

Steve Kanter

States that on occasion baseball stadia are used for off-season activities.

405

Co-chair Brown

Asks for the locations being discussed.

410

Kanter

Discusses the seven sites currently being considered.

415

Kinsley

Asks why locations have not been looked at outside of Portland, such as Wilsonville.

420

Kanter

Responds the city locations are most favorable for use of mass transit.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for HB 3606A:

 

Karen Kantor

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N).

425

Co-chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 3606A and adjourns the committee at 6:03 pm.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 132, -2 amendments (4-8-03), staff, 7 pp

B – SB 899, written testimony, Grover Simmons, 2 pp

C – SB 899, pricing survey, Grover Simmons, 1 p

D – SB 132, written testimony, Joe Keizur, 1 p

E – SB 139, written testimony, Jim Stembridge, 8 pp

F – SB 139, -2 amendments (6-3-03), staff, 13 pp

G – SB 139, cost calculations, Jim Stembridge, 13 pp

H – HB 3606A, -A3 amendments (6-12-03), staff, 4 pp

I – HB 3606A, written testimony, David Kahn, 13 pp

J – HB 3606A, booklet “Major League Baseball in the Community,” David Kahn, 40 pp

K – HB 3606A, written testimony of Karl Mundorf, David Kahn, 2 pp

L – HB 3606A, written commentary, Harvey Platt, 1 p

M – HB 3606A, written testimony, Pete Ward, 1 p

N – HB 3606A, written testimony, Karen Kantor, 1 p